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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
The APM Maps on this site dont really help imo. Im a Toss player who has a range of 70-120 APM. My problem is that I CANT USE MY 0-9 WHILE PLAYING STARCRAFT. my mouse moves 2x faster than my left hand so i come to a solution. Play Starcraft with half Mouse sensitivity!!! Thoughts? Edit: when i ment i cant use my 0-9 (0123456789...), i ment im not comfortable using them. I NEED to use them to play better.  | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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Empyrean
17020 Posts
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numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On November 12 2009 13:58 Empyrean wrote: Instead of improving your APM, you should probably learn how to be better at the game. My problem is to macro while attacking | ||
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Empyrean
17020 Posts
Even if you lose the battle, you'll have superior macro and more units for later. | ||
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
On November 12 2009 13:51 Kenpachi wrote: "The best way to train APM is to play Starcraft" The APM Maps on this site dont really help imo. Im a Toss player who has a range of 70-120 APM. My problem is that I CANT USE MY 0-9 WHILE PLAYING STARCRAFT. my mouse moves 2x faster than my left hand so i come to a solution. Play Starcraft with half Mouse sensitivity!!! Thoughts? Playing with half sensitivity is pointless. You have to adjust to the slow sensitivity and then if your left hand catches up then you switch them back... or something. Moving your hands is more of a mental thing. Try the BlueIris exercise where your entire goal is nonstop spamming to keep a certain APM in a game against a computer (use some APM counter like one with chaos). Edit: If you can't use 0-9... why can't you use the numbers? Are you just not used to reaching up there? After doing it many times it should become second nature and then you'll get faster... | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On November 12 2009 14:03 KawaiiRice wrote: Edit: If you can't use 0-9... why can't you use the numbers? Are you just not used to reaching up there? After doing it many times it should become second nature and then you'll get faster... if i cant use 0-9 (Numbers) why can i use the numbers (0-9?) | ||
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On November 12 2009 14:16 Misrah wrote: Worry less about apm, worry more about why your losing. hint: apm is not the reason. APM means nothing I lose mostly cuz of my apm.. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On November 12 2009 14:16 Misrah wrote: Worry less about apm, worry more about why your losing. hint: apm is not the reason. APM means nothing really hate these posts.... if apm means nothing why do pros average higher apm than amatures, why do they average higher than foreigners????? im not saying there is some definitive 1:1 correlation but saying it means nothing is just dumb. and i can for certain say that someone with 40 apm, it will be impossible for them to hit a- | ||
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
Is there a 'base' apm that players need to be successful? yes. But that comes with time, not through force. | ||
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hellokitty[hk]
United States1309 Posts
Make someone watch you play and yell at you to play faster! | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On November 12 2009 14:23 Misrah wrote: APM= effort. Trying to make any more use of APM as a benchmark for anything is useless imo Is there a 'base' apm that players need to be successful? yes. But that comes with time, not through force. Im going to use that time with half my mouse speed and more 1a2a3a4a5a6z7z8z9p0p On November 12 2009 14:24 hellokitty[hk] wrote: Improving APM takes a conscious effort, exercises involving spamming a high APM are supposed to get you used to the speed so you don't have to be focusing on APM all the time. Make someone watch you play and yell at you to play faster! this is win | ||
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On November 12 2009 14:26 Misrah wrote: your being stupid saying 'i can't use the 0-9 keys' that is a really stupid cop out, and frankly lowering your mouse sensitivity will do nothing but hurt your game. You are going about this all wrong, and i don't know how else to tell you that. just play more, and stop mental blocking yourself with I CAN'T 0-9 so your telling me to attack and wait for everything to die then macro while i get rolled every single game? | ||
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
USE YOUR MACRO KEYS. Stop saying you can't, and just make a conscious effort to start using them while you play. Start off only using 1-3 or try using F2 or F3 to get back to your gates. Christ you are going about this problem the way a 6 year old would. 'i can't use these keys like the rest of the SC community' 'i can't do it that way' 'i can't macro or micro' Stop selling yourself so short. Even if you play really badly with your macros the first few times get over it and just keep practicing. Instead of F5in this thread every min, you should use your F keys in games. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
On November 12 2009 14:27 Kenpachi wrote: He's telling you get used to using 0-9. O_o.so your telling me to attack and wait for everything to die then macro while i get rolled every single game? | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On November 12 2009 14:31 Misrah wrote: FOR GOD SAKES- this is the last time that i am going to try and help you. USE YOUR MACRO KEYS. Stop saying you can't, and just make a conscious effort to start using them while you play. Start off only using 1-3 or try using F2 or F3 to get back to your gates. Christ you are going about this problem the way a 6 year old would. 'i can't use these keys like the rest of the SC community' 'i can't do it that way' 'i can't macro or micro' Stop selling yourself so short. Even if you play really badly with your macros the first few times get over it and just keep practicing. Instead of F5in this thread every min, you should use your F keys in games.  what are macro keys | ||
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theron[wdt]
United States395 Posts
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
Macro keys are whatever you use to get back to your production buildings. If you hotkey a building then that would be your macro key. (I use 2, so I double tap 2. Hotkeying a screen would be F2 or F3 then, like Misrah said) Edit: On November 12 2009 14:05 Kenpachi wrote: spamming = using the number keys right? if not, it doesnt help me at all :l if i cant use 0-9 (Numbers) why can i use the numbers (0-9?) And sorry there I was indirectly asking you why you say you can't use 0-9 but I guess I should have been more direct. lol | ||
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Papvin
Denmark610 Posts
Keep your hands warm. A good way to do this is fx to spam a bit in the start of the game, playing in a warm room and such kind of things. When your hands are cold you simply cannot perform aswell, and your apm will decrease in a way affecting your game. Know what you want to do. If you got everything in early game planned out and are quite sure about your midgame plan, you will know which tasks you want to do. Knowing what to do is obviously not enough, but here comes your need for a potentially higher apm. You now have a clear need of a higher apm instead of a "man I can't win anything with an apm below 100"-attitude, and trust me, it'll help you improve your game so much more than beforementioned. So really; when you play, know what you want to do (and I by no means mean a deep stategical insight, just like a basic BO and plan), see where your apm limits you and work from there. Hope it helps -.-. | ||
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StalinRusH
United States734 Posts
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Cu(oCo)
Italy358 Posts
a good way to learn how to do apm is to learn a build order and pratice it like no tomorrow | ||
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wok
United States504 Posts
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2on2
United States142 Posts
If you have low apm chances are you lack micro or macro and you need to refine your mechanics which overtime will increase your apm. Use your F-keys, Hotkeys, dont click actions you can use the keyboard (ie upgrades), etc Play smoother, multi-task better, you dont need to spam (spamming doesnt make you a better player) and all of your actions should count for something. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ez | ||
520
United States2822 Posts
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shurgen
350 Posts
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Leath
Canada1724 Posts
I mean, I use it for nexus and probes, and I never take my right hand off the mouse. Im fine clicking any keys with my left hand. Maybe just use the left hand? Anyway, a lot of protoss save nexus on 4-5 or even lower. | ||
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BlasiuS
United States2405 Posts
Remove this when you are about to 'get serious' during a game. That should fix your problem. Also remember, to use both hands, that is much more powerful than just using one hand. | ||
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JFKWT
Singapore1442 Posts
On November 13 2009 02:04 BlasiuS wrote: I think your special eye patch is eating some of your apm reiatsu. Remove this when you are about to 'get serious' during a game. That should fix your problem. Also remember, to use both hands, that is much more powerful than just using one hand. Wearing bells in your hair and having a kid girl on your shoulder is probably making your apm lower too. don't fight with people who wear masks. Of course you wouldn't know if its on iccup. Also, try to take criticism positively instead of react like a kid to everything others say. P.s. try to find out the name of your zealot's zanpaktou while your at it. | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On November 13 2009 00:46 scintilliaSD wrote: There is no such thing as "losing because I don't have APM." There are players at C+ and B level with ~100 APM. 100 is ridiculously low for starcraft. I don't care what anybody says. | ||
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Horiz0n
Sweden364 Posts
(Clickmer) http://www.starcraft.7x.ru/content/files_real_down.php?fid=651 | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
I lowered my mouse sensitivity so i can use my numbers more efficiently. I always have the urge to stop using what i hotkeyed and use my mouse for everything | ||
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JFKWT
Singapore1442 Posts
On November 13 2009 05:37 Kenpachi wrote: I sorta want training to USE the 1a2a3a keys which will raise my APM. I lowered my mouse sensitivity so i can use my numbers more efficiently. I always have the urge to stop using what i hotkeyed and use my mouse for everything (to paraphrase) then stop trying to use 1a2a3a and just USE 1a2a3a seriously some of the things you're trying to tell us is useless if you don't actually use it. Don't go around saying "oh halp my mouse sucks cos i don't use the keyboard *whine*" etc. ad nauseum. Considering P is the easiest introductory race to start with i don't see why you would want to complain so much over something so unnecessary. Now switch to T/Z =P | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On November 13 2009 11:24 JFKWT wrote: (to paraphrase) then stop trying to use 1a2a3a and just USE 1a2a3a seriously some of the things you're trying to tell us is useless if you don't actually use it. Don't go around saying "oh halp my mouse sucks cos i don't use the keyboard *whine*" etc. ad nauseum. Considering P is the easiest introductory race to start with i don't see why you would want to complain so much over something so unnecessary. Now switch to T/Z =P I changed from P to Z out of Boredom/ amazingness of Jaedong. I changed from Z to T out of Boredom. I changed from T to P out of Boredom/Frustration. Protoss is hard to use. when i ment 1a2a3a, 1a2a3a were just examples. i find it unnessecary to do anything like 6z7z8z since it takes a longer time to do that... im training to use my hotkeys so i can get my left hand to move faster on the keyboard. I never said i dont use my keyboard. i said i cant use my numbers... + Show Spoiler + Protoss is hard Protoss is hard Protoss is hard | ||
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JFKWT
Singapore1442 Posts
On November 13 2009 12:14 Kenpachi wrote: I changed from P to Z out of Boredom/ amazingness of Jaedong. I changed from Z to T out of Boredom. I changed from T to P out of Boredom/Frustration. Protoss is hard to use. when i ment 1a2a3a, 1a2a3a were just examples. i find it unnessecary to do anything like 6z7z8z since it takes a longer time to do that... im training to use my hotkeys so i can get my left hand to move faster on the keyboard. I never said i dont use my keyboard. i said i cant use my numbers... + Show Spoiler + Protoss is hard Protoss is hard Protoss is hard Learn the piano or something. Or you could learn touch typing. Most people around here wouldn't say protoss is hard until maybe beyong C or B level on iccup O_o | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On November 13 2009 13:10 JFKWT wrote: Learn the piano or something. Or you could learn touch typing. Most people around here wouldn't say protoss is hard until maybe beyong C or B level on iccup O_o o_o... i play piano... | ||
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Racenilatr
United States2756 Posts
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