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On November 02 2009 15:10 GTR wrote:
living with your parents when you are 22
lol
edit: also mora that is the MOST RANDOM EDIT i've ever read on this site.
laughing at people who live with their parents straight out of college doesn't seem like a very nice thing to do.
most of my older brothers and sisters had to stay around for a bit before they could find somewhere to live and a job -- i'd imagine it would be very stressful.
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On November 02 2009 15:10 GTR wrote:
living with your parents when you are 22
lol
edit: also mora that is the MOST RANDOM EDIT i've ever read on this site.
It's not uncommon. Are you serious?
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On November 02 2009 15:19 Amnesia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 15:10 GTR wrote:
living with your parents when you are 22
lol
edit: also mora that is the MOST RANDOM EDIT i've ever read on this site. It's not uncommon. Are you serious?
why wouldn't he be? the job market is flourishing right now.
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On November 02 2009 15:19 Amnesia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 15:10 GTR wrote:
living with your parents when you are 22
lol
edit: also mora that is the MOST RANDOM EDIT i've ever read on this site. It's not uncommon. Are you serious?
which part of his post isn't uncommon, living with your parents when you are 22 or mora editing gay things into his posts?
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On November 02 2009 15:15 eMbrace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 15:10 GTR wrote:
living with your parents when you are 22
lol
edit: also mora that is the MOST RANDOM EDIT i've ever read on this site. laughing at people who live with their parents straight out of college doesn't seem like a very nice thing to do. most of my older brothers and sisters had to stay around for a bit before they could find somewhere to live and a job -- i'd imagine it would be very stressful.
i disagree.
moving out when they were out of highschool, working a minimum wage job, trying to find happiness in such a depressing situation - that would be stressful.
staying at home with your rents so you can live a pampered luxurious life forever afterwards?
Perhaps we just have a different definition of stress.
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On November 02 2009 15:21 Nitrogen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 15:19 Amnesia wrote:On November 02 2009 15:10 GTR wrote:
living with your parents when you are 22
lol
edit: also mora that is the MOST RANDOM EDIT i've ever read on this site. It's not uncommon. Are you serious? which part of his post isn't uncommon, living with your parents when you are 22 or mora editing gay things into his posts?
The first part.
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On November 02 2009 15:21 Nitrogen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 15:19 Amnesia wrote:On November 02 2009 15:10 GTR wrote:
living with your parents when you are 22
lol
edit: also mora that is the MOST RANDOM EDIT i've ever read on this site. It's not uncommon. Are you serious? which part of his post isn't uncommon, living with your parents when you are 22 or mora editing gay things into his posts?
haha yeah, im curious too.
neither are particularly uncommon. lol
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On November 02 2009 15:21 Mora wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 15:15 eMbrace wrote:On November 02 2009 15:10 GTR wrote:
living with your parents when you are 22
lol
edit: also mora that is the MOST RANDOM EDIT i've ever read on this site. laughing at people who live with their parents straight out of college doesn't seem like a very nice thing to do. most of my older brothers and sisters had to stay around for a bit before they could find somewhere to live and a job -- i'd imagine it would be very stressful. i disagree. moving out when they were out of highschool, working a minimum wage job, trying to find happiness in such a depressing situation - that would be stressful. staying at home with your rents so you can live a pampered luxurious life forever afterwards? Perhaps we just have a different definition of stress.
yes, i get it -- anyone who had a smoother raising than you did is a lesser human being.
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On November 02 2009 13:24 Xenocide_Knight wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 13:14 lvatural wrote:On November 02 2009 12:35 Liquid`Drone wrote:On November 02 2009 11:50 JeeJee wrote:On November 02 2009 11:45 Liquid`Drone wrote:
as for the whole "respect your dad because he is your dad", that's a bunch of bullshit, especially when you are 22 years old. if your dad is a jackass, he doesnt deserve your respect. seriously? i don't care how much of an asshole my father is, him providing for me when i was fucking useless to the world is enough to earn my respect and forget any of his little faults for pretty much ever, whether i'm living alone or with him (especially moreso in the latter case) im not saying you shouldnt respect your father if he has some tiny flaws or whatever, but if he's a complete jackass? what if he beats your mom? all im saying is that fatherhood doesn't equal respect by default.. a good dad obviously deserves it, and im not saying op's dad is a bad father or not worthy of respect. just that it's not some kind of default state, respect needs to be earned even for a parent. Disagree. The default state given to your father is respect (of course this extends to the mother as well). Simply put, they're the reason you are here today. They housed, fed, taught, etc.. you for the beginning portion of your life. This in it of itself simply establishes lifetime respect. However, I do believe there are EXCEPTIONS to this, for example beating you or your mom for the hell of it or dumping you in a ditch when you were 9, that would not warrant this respect anymore. But these are only in extreme and narrow cases. A father being a complete jackass, in my opinion, doesn't fit into this category and should still be respected by his kids. Sure, your take on earning respect is reasonable when applied towards unrelated third parties; however, I think a father/mother should not be lumped in the same category. Disagree Respect is ALWAYS earned. no exceptions, parent or not. Same reasoning as you. They are the reason you are here today. YOU didn't choose to have parents or be born, THEY chose to have a child which they KNEW they would have to provide for for years and years. I don't see how that enables automatic respect
Disagree.
Respect is often the default position due to profession, station, or relationship. If you walk into a new class with a professor, you start out with an assumption of respect for him and his knowledge, because of his position. His actions can reinforce or counter that initial respect, but it is there to begin with.
Same goes for when you take a lesson from a martial artist, when you meet a priest, or when you meet a president. The ability to attain a certain position in life gives you respect from the outset of many situations.
An entire swath of our social behaviour is based off this.
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On November 02 2009 15:32 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 13:24 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On November 02 2009 13:14 lvatural wrote:On November 02 2009 12:35 Liquid`Drone wrote:On November 02 2009 11:50 JeeJee wrote:On November 02 2009 11:45 Liquid`Drone wrote:
as for the whole "respect your dad because he is your dad", that's a bunch of bullshit, especially when you are 22 years old. if your dad is a jackass, he doesnt deserve your respect. seriously? i don't care how much of an asshole my father is, him providing for me when i was fucking useless to the world is enough to earn my respect and forget any of his little faults for pretty much ever, whether i'm living alone or with him (especially moreso in the latter case) im not saying you shouldnt respect your father if he has some tiny flaws or whatever, but if he's a complete jackass? what if he beats your mom? all im saying is that fatherhood doesn't equal respect by default.. a good dad obviously deserves it, and im not saying op's dad is a bad father or not worthy of respect. just that it's not some kind of default state, respect needs to be earned even for a parent. Disagree. The default state given to your father is respect (of course this extends to the mother as well). Simply put, they're the reason you are here today. They housed, fed, taught, etc.. you for the beginning portion of your life. This in it of itself simply establishes lifetime respect. However, I do believe there are EXCEPTIONS to this, for example beating you or your mom for the hell of it or dumping you in a ditch when you were 9, that would not warrant this respect anymore. But these are only in extreme and narrow cases. A father being a complete jackass, in my opinion, doesn't fit into this category and should still be respected by his kids. Sure, your take on earning respect is reasonable when applied towards unrelated third parties; however, I think a father/mother should not be lumped in the same category. Disagree Respect is ALWAYS earned. no exceptions, parent or not. Same reasoning as you. They are the reason you are here today. YOU didn't choose to have parents or be born, THEY chose to have a child which they KNEW they would have to provide for for years and years. I don't see how that enables automatic respect Disagree. Respect is often the default position due to profession, station, or relationship. If you walk into a new class with a professor, you start out with an assumption of respect for him and his knowledge, because of his position. His actions can reinforce or counter that initial respect, but it is there to begin with. Same goes for when you take a lesson from a martial artist, when you meet a priest, or when you meet a president. The ability to attain a certain position in life gives you respect from the outset of many situations. An entire swath of our social behaviour is based off this.
While I agree with you, I don't think it's the healthiest way to run a household. Of course, I don't have a right to have an opinion on this as of now.
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only people in third world countries who are near-starvation or have suffered from things on that order of magnitude are allowed to be indignant, angry, or depressed
everyone else is a pussy and should suck it up
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On November 02 2009 15:22 eMbrace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 15:21 Mora wrote:On November 02 2009 15:15 eMbrace wrote:On November 02 2009 15:10 GTR wrote:
living with your parents when you are 22
lol
edit: also mora that is the MOST RANDOM EDIT i've ever read on this site. laughing at people who live with their parents straight out of college doesn't seem like a very nice thing to do. most of my older brothers and sisters had to stay around for a bit before they could find somewhere to live and a job -- i'd imagine it would be very stressful. i disagree. moving out when they were out of highschool, working a minimum wage job, trying to find happiness in such a depressing situation - that would be stressful. staying at home with your rents so you can live a pampered luxurious life forever afterwards? Perhaps we just have a different definition of stress. yes, i get it -- anyone who had a smoother raising than you did is a lesser human being.
I missed your point.
Are you saying that people who had a smoother raising than me have a right to cry when their parents ask them to do chores? And that if i disagree with them, it's because i think they're inferior to me?
really?
Please tell me i missed the fucking boat on that one.
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On November 02 2009 14:53 Mora wrote:
seriously, when i have kids, they're earning their fucking keep. by the time they can earn their food, they will be earning it. if they want to go to school, they can take out a loan from me or the bank. the idea that my kid would turn out like you is absolutely terrifying, and pushes me in the direction of being an absolute tyrant so they have some idea of integrity, reality, and respect. holy fuck.
edit - wow i'm especially bitchy today. i'm dating this guy who is absolutely horrible in bed. after fooling around for over an hour and him having no idea what the fuck he was doing, i was too irritated to cum. i've been in a bad mood since.
Knowing that you are a guy, these two sentences seem to contradict each other mightily.
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On November 02 2009 15:40 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 14:53 Mora wrote:
seriously, when i have kids, they're earning their fucking keep. by the time they can earn their food, they will be earning it. if they want to go to school, they can take out a loan from me or the bank. the idea that my kid would turn out like you is absolutely terrifying, and pushes me in the direction of being an absolute tyrant so they have some idea of integrity, reality, and respect. holy fuck.
edit - wow i'm especially bitchy today. i'm dating this guy who is absolutely horrible in bed. after fooling around for over an hour and him having no idea what the fuck he was doing, i was too irritated to cum. i've been in a bad mood since. Knowing that you are a guy, these two sentences seem to contradict each other mightily.
Hmmm... Well i'm hoping that by the time i want kids, it will be legal for two men to be married and adopt a kid. I don't know if it's legal now, but i don't think it's too far off.
edit - just looked it up on wikipedia - apparently it's already legal!
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On November 02 2009 15:40 Mora wrote:
And that if i disagree with them, it's because i think they're inferior to me?
really?
Please tell me i missed the fucking boat on that one.
yes you did
the conclusion we drew as to your motives did not arise from your disagreement but rather the fact that you disagreed in a post that was fairly obviously dripping with condescension
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Jesus the OP is a whiny baby. 22 and still mooching off parents, and not even grateful about it.. the very definition of a loser.
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On November 02 2009 15:10 GTR wrote:
living with your parents when you are 22
lol
edit: also mora that is the MOST RANDOM EDIT i've ever read on this site.
im going to laugh so much when you're 22 and living with your parents
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On November 02 2009 15:46 WhiteNights wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 15:40 Mora wrote:
And that if i disagree with them, it's because i think they're inferior to me?
really?
Please tell me i missed the fucking boat on that one. yes you did the conclusion we drew as to your motives did not arise from your disagreement but rather the fact that you disagreed in a post that was fairly obviously dripping with condescension
i've attempted to reply to this several times, but end up deleting it due to my uncertainty of my interpretation. So i'll just ask for you to elaborate.
Are you referring to my first response to this thread, or the post that Embrace responded to?
In the case of the former, i can't disagree with you. I was condescending - probably more than i should have been - and should probably apologize for that (though i'm not ready to do so yet).
In the case of the latter, i was not condescending at all. I was not forced to work a minimum wage job, nor has my search for happiness been difficult. The post was inspired from quite the opposite - i feel i've had a lucky and pampered life, and feel that only people who've had a hard one should be complaining. Unless this post was sarcastic, i pretty much agree with the sentiments you stated here:
On November 02 2009 15:36 WhiteNights wrote:
only people in third world countries who are near-starvation or have suffered from things on that order of magnitude are allowed to be indignant, angry, or depressed
everyone else is a pussy and should suck it up
However, after reading your most recent blog, i'm now inclined to believe you were being sarcastic.
For what it's worth, it was not my intention to make you feel inferior to me. Upon re-reading my post, it's certainly understandable why one might think so.
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according to TL.net, between a third and half of people who graduate in college in any given year are pussies
[edit] Okay, I didn't see your recent post; I will write a serious response in short order. Wait for the edit.
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On November 02 2009 16:16 WhiteNights wrote:
according to TL.net, between a third and half of people who graduate in college in any given year are pussies
Seems about right.
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