EPTI personally think that it wouldn't have been a big deal to move the topic from General to Blog (if they can do that, I'm not sure if blogs are technically different from other sub-forums, and can't be moved), but it was their call to close the first topic. Regardless, if they don't close topics, or make mention of it, and do it all for you, people will never learn. It wouldn't have been hard at all for you to just directly copy/paste your first topic into blogs.
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
I personally think that it wouldn't have been a big deal to move the topic from General to Blog (if they can do that, I'm not sure if blogs are technically different from other sub-forums, and can't be moved), but it was their call to close the first topic. Regardless, if they don't close topics, or make mention of it, and do it all for you, people will never learn. It wouldn't have been hard at all for you to just directly copy/paste your first topic into blogs. | ||
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frankbg
Canada335 Posts
10 years of being involved in the eSports business, Razer don't really publish numbers when it comes to this  Plus, I'm sure many of those who got faulty products did what I did today, silently went back to a competitor, at least from Razer's perspective. Like I said, won't deal with them anymore. But during the years since Razer has been around, I've heard about and experienced some pretty high failure rates.Unless Razer customers are the only who post, I don't know for you, but when it comes to MICE, you don't see a ton of people complaining about Logitech or Microsoft, do you? (At least with mice, maybe not other products). Plus, speaking from personnal experience, Logitech always shipped me a new replacement mouse as long as I was within warranty. It was a no-hassle experience, didn't even have to ship my old mouse back, they ran a few tests with me (5 mins), took the Serial, my address and shipping took roughly a week ... | ||
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RyuriaL
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frankbg
Canada335 Posts
http://forums.enemydown.co.uk/showthread.php?t=84824 http://forum.ncix.com/forums/index.php?mode=showthread&forum=107&threadid=1412617&product_id=22343&forumid=107&pcbuilderid=0 whole 6 page thread with tons of posts about issues with both software compatibility and high hardware failure rate http://www.aionsource.com/forum/aion-discussion/37666-razer-giveaway-live-feed-yet-gameguard-blocks-them.html http://ariekanarie.nl/archives/18/razer-deathadder-troubles | ||
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Quint
467 Posts
On October 08 2009 20:32 frankbg wrote: 10 years of being involved in the eSports business Is that you, Kennigit? Edit: On October 08 2009 20:46 frankbg wrote: Just googling it will get you a ton of results too: http://forums.enemydown.co.uk/showthread.php?t=84824 http://forum.ncix.com/forums/index.php?mode=showthread&forum=107&threadid=1412617&product_id=22343&forumid=107&pcbuilderid=0 How does prove the "by far highest failure rate out of the major mice and gaming product companies"? | ||
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Jopz
United States262 Posts
On October 08 2009 20:46 frankbg wrote: Just googling it will get you a ton of results too: http://forums.enemydown.co.uk/showthread.php?t=84824 http://forum.ncix.com/forums/index.php?mode=showthread&forum=107&threadid=1412617&product_id=22343&forumid=107&pcbuilderid=0 Hmmm but you see the thing is googling just about anything will get you a ton of results. | ||
Moloch
Canada222 Posts
Every company has failure rates. Working in retail showed me that no matter what it is, or how good the company's reputation is, some of the product will be defective out of the box. I've seen it with Logitech and Microsoft mice. We've had dozens of G15s (Okay, it's a keyboard. but it still counts) not work straight out of the box, but that doesn't mean that Logitech is terrible at making keyboards (I bought and love my G15). I'm just trying to say that Razer isn't all that terrible. | ||
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frankbg
Canada335 Posts
On October 08 2009 20:56 The_Master wrote: My first Razer product lasted approximately a year and a half. It was a nice Diamondback and I really enjoyed it until I dropped a desk on it while I was moving (purely accidental). Since I enjoyed the first one, I bought another one which has worked absolutely perfectly for over a year now. Every company has failure rates. Working in retail showed me that no matter what it is, or how good the company's reputation is, some of the product will be defective out of the box. I've seen it with Logitech and Microsoft mice. We've had dozens of G15s (Okay, it's a keyboard. but it still counts) not work straight out of the box, but that doesn't mean that Logitech is terrible at making keyboards (I bought and love my G15). I'm just trying to say that Razer isn't all that terrible. Except replacing a product with Logitech is a pleasurable experience, close to orgasm, whereas calling Razer is somewhat like getting a vasectomy WHILE having a prostate exam. | ||
GTR
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If this Razer breaks, I'll probably buy another Razer. | ||
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Moloch
Canada222 Posts
On October 08 2009 20:59 frankbg wrote: Except replacing a product with Logitech is a pleasurable experience, close to orgasm, whereas calling Razer is somewhat like getting a vasectomy WHILE having a prostate exam. If replacing Razer products with Logitech ones was THAT good, I'm sure there'd be a movement to buy all razer gear and one-by-one replace it with Logitech. Once the word spread, Razer's warehouses would be sold out in seconds. People would line up to buy Logitech's new items, just waiting for the moment they've dreamed of - the moment of replacing their Razer mouse.... and then it would end - like waking up suddenly after a good dream. They'd continue on with their lives using their G9x, but some would realize they actually preferred their Deathadder and start using it again Also, I've actually never gotten a vasectomy while having a prostate exam nor have I had to call Razer before either, so I cannot comment on your second analogy. | ||
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1904 Posts
On October 08 2009 19:16 frankbg wrote: I've ordered two mice from Razer, both broke within 48 hours of me receiving them. In comparison, I've lasted 2 MX518's and a IE3.0 for over 2 years each and the G5 I had prior to this for about 2 as well. lol dude are you like an angry little nerd that rages when he get's dt dropped or fragged in cs and starts smashing his mouse? because i had 2 mice since i started to use pcs 9 years ago, first a standart microsoft ball-mouse and now since like 5 years an optical logitech mouse. the ms mouse was not broken when i brought the logitech mouse, i just wanted to switch to an optical mouse....So wtf do you do with your mouse?  | ||
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SwEEt[TearS]
Canada1575 Posts
On-topic: my friend had a Razer mouse for nearly 5 years, I bought one about a year ago and it still works as good as it did when I bought it. seriously, unless you have real statistics to prove that Razer is worse than Logi/MS, there's no way for you to prove it wasn't just you being extremely unlucky. oh, and lol @ "I have writing credentials but I won't use them because I'm too busy raging" | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
The problem with your post - it lacks any facts, and is generally a load of incoherent garbage, so no wonder you can expect it to get closed down. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
I guess if you're going to buy an expensive electronic with high failure rate, you should try to get a warranty. Personally I have really bad luck with cameras. Whenever I buy one, no matter what brand it malfunctions day one and I have to return it. And yet if I borrow someone's camera I can use it perfectly, even up to being the same model (so I don't really think it's me just being retarded). I blame the supernatural. | ||
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frankbg
Canada335 Posts
On October 08 2009 21:13 REDBLUEGREEN wrote: lol dude are you like an angry little nerd that rages when he get's dt dropped or fragged in cs and starts smashing his mouse? because i had 2 mice since i started to use pcs 9 years ago, first a standart microsoft ball-mouse and now since like 5 years an optical logitech mouse. the ms mouse was not broken when i brought the logitech mouse, i just wanted to switch to an optical mouse....So wtf do you do with your mouse? Haha, no, I'm just a heavy user, plus I decided to replace my G5 because the skates we're getting used up, although I'm mainly a poker player nowadays and don't game as much as I did, I still play enough FPS that I felt like I should look into a new mouse. Since I've tried a teammate's DA at LAN and knew it felt comfortable, I thought I'd switch. Plus, my good ole '03 DKT Pad is so used up, I thought I'd switch that as well, combined shipping, got me a DA. Then this. | ||
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frankbg
Canada335 Posts
On October 08 2009 21:15 SwEEt[TearS] wrote: Still waiting on FakeSteve to come and destroy this thread somehow... On-topic: my friend had a Razer mouse for nearly 5 years, I bought one about a year ago and it still works as good as it did when I bought it. seriously, unless you have real statistics to prove that Razer is worse than Logi/MS, there's no way for you to prove it wasn't just you being extremely unlucky. oh, and lol @ "I have writing credentials but I won't use them because I'm too busy raging" Because Razer publishes numbers, right? Lol all you want, how do you even "use credentials" anyways? Mani said that I "couldn't write coherently". I simply said I wouldn't mention my credentials because I don't pay attention to structure or put specific emphasis on my writing when I post here. It's more of a casual thing. On top of that, I like being anonymous here and to me that's worth keeping my identity to myself, regardless of how much credibility I may lose here. TL is huge in foreign SC, but on the global eSports scene, it isn't like my TL alias' credibility was a big threat to what I do. | ||
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frankbg
Canada335 Posts
On October 08 2009 21:20 Sadistx wrote: I have a razer pro | click 1.6 mouse that looks kinda like a white diamondback. Very happy with it so far. The problem with your post - it lacks any facts, and is generally a load of incoherent garbage, so no wonder you can expect it to get closed down. Yeah, my mouse breaking wasn't fact, the threads I linked where people complained about the same issue and reported also hearing about high failure rates didn't exist. It's all in my imagination. While I've got your attention, may I recommend putting down the pipe when you read blogs, maybe it'll feel a bit more coherent. | ||
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Foucault
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frankbg
Canada335 Posts
On October 08 2009 21:50 Foucault wrote: I can understand that you are pissed frankbg, but take this up with Razer directly and not TL, because TL isn't responsible for the failure of your mice. I'll just assume it's late where you live and you haven't read the thread. | ||
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