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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-19 07:43:57
September 19 2009 07:41 GMT
#21
2port wraith --> Ghost + Medic nuke drops w/mass optic flare.

Let's do this.
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Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
September 19 2009 07:47 GMT
#22
I don't think it's gonna do much.

Actually I'm still convinced the OP is a troll post.

Ultras are the only thing that counters ghosts? What about Guardians? Hydras only take like half damage or 75% or something from ghosts, so they'd be good too. Lurkers? Ghosts can't run fast enough to avoid lurkerling swarms.

Maybe some ghosts, but not mass ghosts.
Ghosts just cost too much money for not enough firepower. The concussive damage ruins it all.
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
September 19 2009 08:09 GMT
#23
The OP's username is Village Idiot. Too easy.
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
September 19 2009 08:30 GMT
#24
^ Above and um just wait for SC2 okey? Then the time for the Ghost to shine will come.

+ Show Spoiler +
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
September 19 2009 10:05 GMT
#25
On September 19 2009 15:40 blabber wrote:
I can totally see a group of cloaked ghosts killing a Zerg expo. Also what could happen is ghost+dropship play. Get a few cloaked ghosts in a Zerg's mineral line and it's like having DTs in their base (sniping each drone one by one)


yeah and get enough to one shot an overlord and that's gg right there! damn if only they werent so gas heavy
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John49ers
Profile Joined May 2009
United States237 Posts
September 19 2009 10:59 GMT
#26
I really want to see this work out.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
September 19 2009 12:09 GMT
#27
Leta obviously means to use a lot of nukes while doing SK terran without tanks.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
September 19 2009 15:30 GMT
#28
First a queen build and now ghosts. village_idiot, you are very awesome.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
September 19 2009 15:46 GMT
#29
Costs 75 gas, takes longer to build, and can't stim, and does 2 damage to Ultralisks (making it really easy to counter en masse)


I don't think Leta meant mass ghosts TvZ. Maybe mixed in, I guess, but largely probably for nuclear strikes, and possibly cloak sniping some drones (like DTs). 4 ghosts to kill a Drone? Could work, especially if the Zerg isn't in the habit of keeping overlords at his main. He might be after you do this once though (and then vultures become by and far more cost efficient for a tactic like this... actually vultures are better in all cases).

He definitely means nukes, or maybe lockdown TvP on arbiters if he's talking ghosts. Better to get Science Vessels if you just want to supplement your army TvZ.
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
September 19 2009 15:56 GMT
#30
the 75gas makes it (nearly?) impossible to go for

I guess you could transition from m&m to a shitton of vultures with ghosts or something, the mines/vults could take try to take care of the zerglings/ultralisks which are the biggest threat to the ghosts.

Would be fun if it works out but I doubt it.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6638 Posts
September 19 2009 16:15 GMT
#31
I went mass ghost once, they tore apart the dude's lurkers hard lol.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28700 Posts
September 19 2009 18:42 GMT
#32
i'll be very happy if terrans start spending their gas on ghosts instead of vessels.

nuke+matrix could be a good way to deal with those nydus defiler lurker defenses though.
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 19 2009 21:36 GMT
#33
Why so serious? Pretty sure that it's just joke topic. I laughed reading the OP few times, then i began reading comments and they were all serious, so I've felt like a retard who is the only person laughing at a joke :|
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-19 21:51:18
September 19 2009 21:49 GMT
#34
What few of you realize is this guy is the mastermind that posted the Queen/Hydra ZvP build on TL strategy forum to get mocked for a week till Zero used it on the best Protoss in the world for the lulz and it worked.

My bet?
villageidiot is a Clairvoyant

To clarify
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=97064

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jinwoooooooo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States176 Posts
September 19 2009 22:45 GMT
#35
Leta doesn't exclusively mention TvZ in his interview.

Chef makes a good point. Ghosts would be an amazing late game counter to arbs. I hate it when I EMP arbs, just to have them run away and come back later with a recharged energy. Eventually, the toss gets up to three or four arbs, and it is a huge pain to EMP all of them if they're spread out. Ghosts will be able to keep arbiter counts down. EMP + lockdown on arbs, and snipe with goliaths. Wow this is a surprisingly good idea, why haven't I tried this before? I'm gonna start doing this
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-20 01:34:17
September 19 2009 23:15 GMT
#36
Wraith/Ghost = Terran version of Corsair/DT? ;P Or maybe Valkyrie/Ghost?

But seriously, Lockdown is awesome when used correctly. I can see how it can be used against Carriers and Arbiters against P. In TvT it can be used if opponent goes BC's, or simply against sieged up tanks. Lockdown has a lot of potential that is yet to be used. Go for it Leta!
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28700 Posts
September 19 2009 23:52 GMT
#37
in tvp ghosts can and should be used more often than they are.. they're good and in campy games with limit, which tvp tends to become, gas is very expendable.

but in tvz 1 vessel is virtually always better than 3 ghosts
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XXehh
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada122 Posts
September 19 2009 23:52 GMT
#38
On September 20 2009 08:15 Holgerius wrote:
Wraith/Ghost = Terran version of Corsair/DT? ;P Or maybe Valkyrie/Ghost?

But seriously, Lockdown is awesome when used correctly. I used it in a game against Ultras (I hate them so much!), it pretty much won me that game. I can also see how it can be used against Carriers and Arbiters against P. In TvT it can be used if opponent goes BC's, or simply against sieged up tanks. Lockdown has a lot of potential that is yet to be used. Go for it Leta!


wraith/ghost or valkyrie/ghost would be insane amount of gas....... but I'm really interested to see what could happen with this. I'm already scared of terran DT drops on me >.>
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
September 20 2009 01:43 GMT
#39
omg.... wraith ghost would be so fucking amazing!!! if i ever saw that play out- holyshit... i would switch to terran right away! Wraith ghost, you have me thinking now
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
September 20 2009 02:38 GMT
#40
On September 20 2009 06:49 samachking wrote:
What few of you realize is this guy is the mastermind that posted the Queen/Hydra ZvP build on TL strategy forum to get mocked for a week till Zero used it on the best Protoss in the world for the lulz and it worked.

My bet?
villageidiot is a Clairvoyant

That's what I was going to say. I'm looking forward to seeing leta wreck some poor zerg with mass ghosts next season now.
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