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CoOl]1st[
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States243 Posts
September 20 2009 04:50 GMT
#41
DT DROP? NO WAY
CLOAKED GHOST DROP.

fuck protoss.
Wizard]1st[ fighting :O
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-20 06:24:10
September 20 2009 06:22 GMT
#42
A good example of "smart" ghost usage could have been seen in that recent Boxer vs Yellow game on nostalgia, where boxer used ghosts as both a way to harass and to clean choke points covered with dark swarm.
Personally I believe that this is the role of ghosts, "ghost" support unit that nukes at convenient times.

One could argue that Yellow is not a good player, but I think he played pretty well in that game.


Also, I damn hate saying that "someone will revolutionize something", this is usually pure marketing hype/lies. Anyone remember "ginger" which turned out to be a crappy segway? (with like 30 000 units sold rotfl)
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-20 13:25:15
September 20 2009 13:23 GMT
#43
Defiler are medium size units, along with hydra, and lurkers. They would only take 50% damage from ghost.

I dont think Ghost are ever useful against zerg, only slightly to do a cute nuke strike.
I bet Leta was considering the use of Ghosts rather in TvP.

But they do have some nice features, Ghost shoot 7 range meaning they out-range lurkers, and match guardians if inside a bunker (bunker = +1 range)
Ghosts inside a bunker will also out-range sunken colony.
Like others mentioned, the cloak ability could be quite something to look into.

Although, I am not enthusiastic about the viability, I still hope it succeeds.
http://www.kongregate.com/?referrer=Sagess
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
September 20 2009 15:08 GMT
#44
I can definately see some nuke drops are viable since nukes only cost 200/200 (lift off your existing CC to make a nuke)
I mean, sure if you point the nuke at the expo, the other guy will most likely realize in time and kill your cloaked ghost but if you do this simutaneously to multiple expos, chances are, at least 1 will hit. And that 1 crucial hit makes up for the Covert OP + 1 Ghost + Research + 200/200 imo if you get like the base + 15 or more workers
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Triple7
Profile Joined April 2009
United States656 Posts
September 20 2009 18:34 GMT
#45
Viable.
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Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
September 20 2009 20:48 GMT
#46
Ghosts are like the lame version of rines. Even without stimpack, rines can do more damage than ghosts.
OP plays too much UMS
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
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