Liquipedia Feedback Thread - Page 71

On August 10 2016 06:43 Templarfreak wrote:
I am in the process of updating a lot of the info on the BW Wiki. This is what I'm thinking right now:

Attack speed should definitely be calculated in per second. This would be game speed * attack speed / 1000, where game speed is the delay between logical frames in ms. So for Fastest, on say the Marine, it would be 42 * 15 / 1000 = 0.63.

We should also use Fastest speed for all time-related things instead of normal, such as build time. For the Barracks, the Build Time would actually be 50.4 (rounded down to 50) seconds instead of 80 seconds. The way this is calculated is by build time * game speed / 1000.

Finally, I think Movement speed should be measured in cells per second, like SC2 is, so that it's a familiar number that people will understand. This would be calculated like speed * 1000 / game speed / cell size. So for Fastest speed, plugging in all the numbers for say the Marine, we do 4 * 1000 / 42 / 32 = 2.976 cells per second.

An alternative method for speed would just be pixels per second, which would be 4 * 1000 / 42 = 95.238

I'm already making some smaller edits and I'd be willing to make these changes for every single unit on the wiki.

On August 10 2016 23:52 Templarfreak wrote:


You are mistaken in that advantage. It is not exact, actually. The most exact value you can get is directly getting the values from the DAT/IScript files, which are based off of logical frames. A Marine takes 360 logical frames to build and how fast those logical frames are adjusted are based on the Game speed. So on Normal, you have 360 * 67 / 1000 = exactly 24.12 seconds in real time on normal game speed. No more, no less. On fastest, it is 360 * 42 / 1000 = exactly 15.12 seconds in real time. They are not perfectly rounded numbers nor are they more accurate than calculating with different game speeds. Since 90% of players will be playing on Fastest, it is only naturally that we use fastest speed on the wiki(s). Especially for SC2, given that the values you see in-game when you start the game on Faster speed are exactly how long it takes on that game speed (Since LotV has converted it's time display to display the proper times on the proper game speed instead of the times for Normal being shown on every game speed).

Considering I'm already knocking out most of the hard stuff I intend to do, it will be EZ-PZ to convert all the time displays to the right numbers. I've already got a huge list of movement speed on fastest speed for every single unit, including the Broodling, Scarab, and Interceptor, and getting the duration for all abilities, research times, and etc, won't be too much trouble either considering I can view all the data and can easily convert it to real time using that same formula (time * game speed / 1000)

I've been working on the Ability template right now and am getting fairly close to being done with it. You can check my changes once I submit it. Here is the code so far, though:

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EDIT: Changes to Ability Template has been submitted.

Just realized, maybe there should be DPS vs Ground and DPS vs Air, with their respective bonuses, too?

On August 15 2016 15:21 nunchaku- wrote:
I've found false information just now. On JDM64's page (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/counterstrike/Jdm64/Results#Detailed_Results), it states that he participated in ELeague Season 1. This needs revision, since he was not part of the line up that participated versus Faze.

Source: http://www.hltv.org/match/2303422-faze-clg-eleague-season-1\

Please have a policy that enforces and promotes a strong use of sources.

On October 02 2016 08:11 FO-nTTaX wrote:
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