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Stijx
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States804 Posts
September 08 2011 00:09 GMT
#401
How do I go about producing tabs on a page? Trying to clean up the Tt eSports Challenge and make a page for the second event, but I can't seem to figure it out from other pages I've looked at :/.
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
September 08 2011 03:14 GMT
#402
On September 08 2011 09:09 Stijx wrote:
How do I go about producing tabs on a page? Trying to clean up the Tt eSports Challenge and make a page for the second event, but I can't seem to figure it out from other pages I've looked at :/.

Use this: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Template:TabsHeader or create your own tabs template.
Example of how it is used on a page:
{{TabsHeader
|name1=Overview
|link1=mousesports
|name2=Team Results
|link2=mousesports/Results
|This=1}}

Replace the number on |This= with the tab number of the page this template is used with. That template also needs to be on your other pages if you want it to show up.

Hi LP staff
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Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 14:08:06
September 08 2011 14:06 GMT
#403
So, in the Simple Questions Simple Answers thread someone asked for a build order for the 111 all in build that's popular at the moment and I noticed that it wasn't actually on Liquipedia so I created it, but I have some questions.

(The page in question: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/1Rax_1Fact_1Port_(All-In) )

First, I've made it as it's own page since it's a deviation from the standard 1/1/1 build and can be so in depth it seemed right to give it it's own page. Was that the correct decision?

Second, what are some good ways to find references? I spent quite a while googling and searching TL, but found it difficult to find satisfactory references.

Finally, that's my first strategy article so I probably made a million errors, would anyone be able to tell me things I could do better next time? I figured I could at least get the basic information online but I don't want to leave work for other people whenever I add things.

Also, as a piece of feedback the strategy template uses the wrong "your".

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===Adaptation===
<!--Based on your scouting/being ahead/being behind, what do you transition into? Examples: when to expand, what tech route to take. Try to list what your build is good against or what your build is afraid of. If you scout this unit, building or build, how do you react. (For example, you're Terran build is focused on taking out Roaches. #1 You scout his roaches and kill his first group, do you expand, try to pressure further or tech up to higher units? #2 You find Mutalisks/a spire - how do you react?-->
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19191 Posts
September 08 2011 15:46 GMT
#404
You've actually made a variation and it should be an alternate build listed on (Wiki)1Rax 1Fact 1Port.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 18:35:05
September 15 2011 18:33 GMT
#405
Liquipedia needs a mapmaking section, I think this could attract many more people to using liquipedia in general, and I see a large demand for this section. Mapmakers, correct me if I'm wrong, like to show people stuff they make, and likewise would enjoy showing people how they make stuff. The map editor of starcraft 2 is pretty complex, and I think liquipedia should describe what all of the map making tools are and how they work, as well as explaining how to do more complicated things - after all, the starcraft 2 map editor is starcraft 2.

Edit:
Why does liquipedia needs a comprehensive starcraft 2 map editor section? I know what all the units in starcraft 2 do - I can't tell you what any of the features in the map editor do.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19191 Posts
September 15 2011 19:07 GMT
#406
We need mapmakers to add in how Galaxy works. I've got no idea :|
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
September 15 2011 19:36 GMT
#407
We don't have any section dedicated to the map editor in liquipedia now, correct? I dunno, I just think that liquipedia should have a pretty detailed explanation of how to use everything in map editor, that's information that would be really useful. Everyone opens map editor at some point, most people give up when they can't figure out how to use all the complicated shit.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
September 15 2011 19:55 GMT
#408
The only page I can find is (Wiki)Galaxy Map Editor. While it is not a bad page it does not explain how to actually use the map editor.

Liquipedia is a great place for many people to collaborate and create articles and guides together. We can help you with formatting and wiki usage but actually writing the guides is something we don't have the knowledge to do.
Liquipedia
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19191 Posts
September 15 2011 20:17 GMT
#409
On September 16 2011 04:36 goswser wrote:
We don't have any section dedicated to the map editor in liquipedia now, correct? I dunno, I just think that liquipedia should have a pretty detailed explanation of how to use everything in map editor, that's information that would be really useful. Everyone opens map editor at some point, most people give up when they can't figure out how to use all the complicated shit.

The problem is that everyone who knows how to use Galaxy is busy using Galaxy and not being awesome and updating Liquipedia.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
September 15 2011 20:53 GMT
#410
That is a bad argument, if teamliquid created a section for mapmaking and included basic information about the map editor, I'm pretty sure if a big thread calling mapmakers to help establish the liquipedia mapmaking section, a lot could get done quickly. Mapmakers might want to make maps, but I doubt everyone using the map editor knows how to use every single part of it, and I could see them looking to figure out parts they don't understand.

I just think its silly that mapmaking in starcraft 2 is the area that people need the MOST information in, and the one that there is basically zero information at all about in liquipedia.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19191 Posts
September 15 2011 22:17 GMT
#411
The simple fact is that
1. Nobody on LP staff (afaik) knows enough about Galaxy to start adding comprehensive information about it to LP
2. People who do know enough about Galaxy aren't adding anything
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
September 16 2011 00:49 GMT
#412
call the masses anyways I think you guys should make it a goal of liquipedia, I don't expect liquipedia staff to know how to do it, but there are other ways, recruiting some map makers, they are easy to find, and maybe give them liquipedia map editor icons or something. Is there even a section on galaxy on liquipedia?
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19191 Posts
September 16 2011 01:00 GMT
#413
There's an article which Noam linked earlier but that's it.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Snorkels
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1015 Posts
September 17 2011 06:05 GMT
#414
Quick question: I see that for units (i.e. zerglings and corruptors) that can morph, the gas and mineral costs are listed, but the supply cost isn't. Was this a decision that was made or could I add this in? It's useful for quick reference, just wasn't sure if this has been discussed.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19191 Posts
September 17 2011 06:56 GMT
#415
I remember we had a discussion a while back about how to deal with this. AFAIK we decided that supply is not a cost of the transformation and so it's not listed.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Stijx
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 21:21:58
September 18 2011 21:13 GMT
#416
Disregard, more trouble than it's worth.
Snorkels
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1015 Posts
September 19 2011 02:47 GMT
#417
okay, thanks for the heads up
HunterK
Profile Joined April 2011
Argentina68 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 10:35:41
September 24 2011 10:34 GMT
#418
For team rosters which template should be used??
A

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{|class="sortable wikitable"
!ID
!Name
!New Team
|-
|'''{{playersp|viOlet|race=z|flag=kr}}'''
| Kim Dong Hwan
|Unknown
|-
|'''{{playersp|wOn|race=p|flag=kr}}'''
| Kong Won Wook
|Unknown
|-
|'''{{player|PhoeNix|race=z|flag=kr}}'''
| Jeon Young Sik
|{{team|Reign}}
|}


or

B
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{|class="sortable prettytable"
!
!
!ID
!Name
!New Team
|-
|{{FlagRace|pl|Z}}
|'''{{player|Nerchio}}'''
|Artur Bloch
|{{team|acer}}
|-
|{{FlagRace|ua|T}}
|'''{{player|OutSide}}'''
|
|{{team|}}
|-
|{{FlagRace|se|P}}
|'''{{player|NaNiwa}}'''
|Johan Lucchesi
|{{team|dignitas}}
|-
|{{FlagRace|ua|Z}}
|'''{{player|Bly}}'''
|Aleksandr Svusuyk
|{{team|virus}}
|-
|{{FlagRace|ru|P}}
|'''{{player|frum}}'''
|Yuri Kulik
|
|-
|}
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
September 24 2011 10:46 GMT
#419
In a sortable table FlagRace gives additional sorting options, so go with that.
Liquipedia
Wren
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States745 Posts
September 28 2011 05:55 GMT
#420
On September 24 2011 19:46 Noam wrote:
In a sortable table FlagRace gives additional sorting options, so go with that.

Plus, wikitable instead of prettytable. All the same functions are included, more modern standard.
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