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On July 23 2010 03:32 Chef wrote:
Not closed, but moved. Why was my thread (http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=137853) moved to blogs from BroodWar? I thought I was yelled at for posting broodwar stuff in blogs and I agreed it was dumb? This isn't a personal story, there's no reason it should be in blogs.
Your blog is a piece of opinion, with little to no reliable facts/sources to support your view.
Also, there's a picture of a bunny as the thread opener...
It's border line trolling where you compare it to other sports...
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137912
Why was this closed? There was some serious discussion going on, but I do admit there was a lot of nonsense too. I just feel particularly sad because I spend like an hour perfecting my wall of text and when I tried to post it, I found the thread closed. :-(
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United States11637 Posts
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It doesn't fucking matter who the hacker was or the fact that it was me, in fact I won the game because the guy seemed to be just testing the hack out. Like seriously I do not give a fuck that I was hacked in that game. I do however, want to share with the people of this community about this hack. But no, I have a full time hater to shut me down.
Just because the game is old and there are tons of hacks doesn't mean the thread is worthless. Imagine if this had been an sc2 game..
At the very least regardless if you want to admit it, I did a service to this community. Now there won't be any more threads about it because they will search and find my thread and you can close those too.
Btw, I was unaware that there was a law on TL where every thread must generate discussion. I mean look at all those stupid fucking threads where someone posts some obscure news and people just spam puns.
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United States11637 Posts
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Even then, It's not grounds for closure. Granted I did post that thread in a minute or two between games, I could have easily been sent a PM being told to reword the OP better. Even if no one noticed the thread at all, I probably would have went back and edited it a little.
Originally I was going to put 'new hack' in the title but I thought this would be stupid because of the fact that it won't be new all the time and future searches of the hack would be better served by putting a more descriptive title.
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Hi, I would like to know why my thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137649 was closed. I do know that there is a much bigger teamliquid group on Steam, I am actually a part of it. As said in my post, there is a just reason to make a new one - the current one in place is very large, general, and disorganized. I tried setting up games with people on there, but it is too difficult, it has no focus.
Like I said in my post I acknowledge that there is a group more for people on steam who are part of this community. But for the people who want to play together frequently -specifically TF2 - and set up organized games together, this group has a good purpose for that. Beforehand just to make sure it was OK I did get permission from Chill to create this thread, so I don't really see the reason for its closure.
EDIT: If my OP wasn't clear enough, I'll gladly clarify/beef it up if I can get the thread re-opened. A lot of the people that I've talked to who have joined the group already are really excited about this.
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Calgary25980 Posts
I know I told you it's okay, but don't you think having 2 Steam groups is silly? Why don't you contact the organizer of the existing one and try to overhaul it?
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I have him added to my friends list, but he hasn't responded. I thought if having a HoN thread(big disorganized discussion, mostly for people who just want to talk about HoN), separate from a HoN League thread (focused to get people from TL to play together in a fun competitive environment) is fine to have, why isn't mine?
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Thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=138093
PM I received when closed:
"Put more effort into your posts and especially in topics you decide to create or you will face consequences for it."
It was a simple question, received a simple answer, and would have promptly died except for some reason a mod decided not only to completely shit on it but to send me a ban threat as well?
"Feel free to recreate a topic on this with some more effort and background put into it for those who havent played WC3/TFT and are aware of what automated tournaments are."
So basically you're telling me what my threads should be about now? The phrase 'automated tournament' is pretty self explanatory I didn't realize I had to write an encyclopedia to avoid the apocalypse.
The fact it was closed doesn't bother me at all but was the closing post and banstick waving really necessary...
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Simple questions like that should be googled about or asked on irc. TL is too big to have room for contentless threads.
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United States22883 Posts
On July 24 2010 12:43 Azile wrote:
So basically you're telling me what my threads should be about now? The phrase 'automated tournament' is pretty self explanatory I didn't realize I had to write an encyclopedia to avoid the apocalypse. The biggest problem is it's something you can search for. I think the first thing everyone should do before creating a new thread is to search both Google and TL to see if it's been asked/answered before. I know in this case you could've, because I just did it myself. 
TL is not a Yahoo Answers for SC2.
The fact it was closed doesn't bother me at all but was the closing post and banstick waving really necessary... I can't speak for whoever did it, but they were probably just waving around their warnstick.
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I just recently made this thread, mainly because I was bored and the servers were down. A few minutes later it was closed with no explanation. I'm just wondering why. I realise mod power is absolute and they're free to do whatever the hell they want, but as a newish member it's pretty discouraging towards future community involvement when a harmless thread I obviously put at least a moderate amount of effort in to is killed for no discernible reason.
Perhaps the mods agreed that it belonged in a blog, but I don't have a blog and don't particularly want one. I don't hold my opinions in high enough esteem that I think they need a soap box for me to tell people about them. I'd rather discuss them with others on an equal level. Correct me if I'm wrong, but SC2 general would seem to be the appropriate place for lighthearted theorycrafting. I don't expect the thread to be reinstated, or even care all that much if it is. The fact it was closed in the first place just kind of irked me something fierce.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
I didn't close it, but some totally random, supposedly funny balance suggestion does simply not constitute a good thread. I don't now how else to explain it.
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So you think my thread was worse than say this for example? Fine if you do, it just seems kind of arbitrary to me and some kind of explanation to that effect isn't unreasonable to expect with the closure. And who's to say it couldn't have developed into a discussion about how to make ultras viable mid-game or something like that. Even bad threads can spawn good discussion.
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That thread isn't closed...?
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United States22883 Posts
On August 05 2010 07:59 brad drac wrote:So you think my thread was worse than say this for example? Fine if you do, it just seems kind of arbitrary to me and some kind of explanation to that effect isn't unreasonable to expect with the closure. And who's to say it couldn't have developed into a discussion about how to make ultras viable mid-game or something like that. Even bad threads can spawn good discussion.
Some threads fly under the radar. If you see another bad thread like that, report it or tell a mod about it. I will tell you that defending your thread by pointing out someone else's is not the way to go.
If good discussion has already been created, that's one thing, but we can't simply leave open every close-worthy thread because there's a possibility that it could generate good discussion. As for yours, there's plenty of other Ultra threads, and the vast majority of unit suggestion threads are treated the same way unless they're extremely comprehensive.
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