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AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-04 15:43:39
May 04 2018 15:35 GMT
#1
What a surprise that my Topic have been closed just after the first criticism to TL (not even modern TL but just TL history)

An administrator once said that Casters always have a hard time accepting criticisms and feedbacks but I see modern TL staff not being less snowflake tbh:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/533359-brood-war-e-sport-scene-growing?page=5

I can see how TL members have become sc2-centric and I understand why:

Team liquid played a role in the betray of brood war but in the same time have played a role to
promote and build the e-sport in the west so we could leave our nerdy caverns to share our e-
sport passion with the world.

The sad truth is that we've sacrificed on the cross a good and innocent game.
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-04 15:53:15
May 04 2018 15:51 GMT
#2
Moved to website feedback.

Edit: BW vs SCII discussions are not allowed on TL. That's why the thread got closed.

PS didn't close it, but I agree with the decision.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-04 15:54:41
May 04 2018 15:53 GMT
#3
Moved to website feedback. It looks like your thread was closed because it went off-topic and reignited the old SC2 vs BW argument, not because you criticized TL.

Edit: Oops, was sniped.
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AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-04 15:58:51
May 04 2018 15:58 GMT
#4
It was off topic for a long time and I should buy that it was closed after that post by chance? I don't know man...
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37067 Posts
May 04 2018 17:40 GMT
#5
2Pac gave the reason as to why he closed the thread. I and other moderators would have all done the same thing. We close threads when they devolve into needless BW vs SC2 debates.

The timing of it may make you think that TL staff is unable to handle criticisms, but this is not true.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17411 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-06 13:49:43
May 06 2018 13:12 GMT
#6
There was not enough "Meat on the Bone" to turn Tastosis optimistic talk after a big tourney into a serious, analytical discussion about the growth of Brood War esports. The OP deserves some credit though for pointing out the exact seconds where hte talk began so that readers/viewers do not have to sift through a lot. The OP put some good effort into the thread... i'll give him that.

Here is what gets said...
"and that non-Korean scene definitely building up again in Brood War", Artosis
"slowly but surely.. we welcome you guys as well." Tasteless
then they completely change the subject.

so they discuss the non-Korean scene the same way Canadian Football League commentators talk about how the CFL is "slowly but surely building!" right after the CFL championship game. And we all know CFL isn't growing. Even after 1 line from Artosis... Tasteless is already hedging by saying "slowly but surely". It's just optimistic broadcaster-speak.

so this is the context of this 1-liner of very vague optimism from Artosis. It was not some deep, thoughtful, scientific analysis that led to Artosis' very quick 1-liner. It was "broadcaster-speak" after the big event just concluded. What does "building up again" mean exactly? They never say.

The thread had a very shaky foundation upon which it was trying to stand.
(see how i didn't end that with a preposition)
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11475 Posts
May 06 2018 15:59 GMT
#7
The thread had a very shaky foundation upon which it was trying to stand.
Yup.

Antihack, you flatter yourself what you wrote was criticism, much less that it was criticism TL was too snowflaky to handle. You made hay out of one shoutout from the big league to the little leagues. They didn't have to do it, but they did and that was generous of them. But alright, it's an interesting question: how much are the other leagues growing?

But then you derailed your own thread with your personal hatred of SC2.
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