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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
April 12 2017 16:07 GMT
#1061
The problem in this case was that it was like eight or more different posts on the exact same line of thought.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7904 Posts
April 12 2017 17:01 GMT
#1062
On April 13 2017 01:02 Liquid`Drone wrote:
No, two different conversations definitely warrant two different posts. But if you remember something you wanted to add to the first post 5 minutes after pressing post, editing the first one is usually preferable.

But an occasional double-post doesn't really matter, 6 in a row or whatever however is never warranted.

Thanks, that's what I thought
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 12 2017 20:37 GMT
#1063
He was probably high or something, there is not much reason to think about it too deeply.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
April 15 2017 00:59 GMT
#1064
I'd like more clarity on the mod note that says:

NOTE: Posts containing only Tweets or articles will be handled a bit more strictly. When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion.


it seems very routine that people post an article, or a tweet, with no additional info I saw a couple in the last two pages, and many more; and often it's relevance seems self-evident, even without any explanation as to its relevance ot the discussion. So I'd like if the actual rules regarding that part of the note were clarified, because its' clearly not about what it literally says. which makes it very unclear what the actual rule is.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3188 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-15 15:12:51
April 15 2017 15:12 GMT
#1065
On April 15 2017 09:59 zlefin wrote:
I'd like more clarity on the mod note that says:

NOTE: Posts containing only Tweets or articles will be handled a bit more strictly. When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion.


it seems very routine that people post an article, or a tweet, with no additional info I saw a couple in the last two pages, and many more; and often it's relevance seems self-evident, even without any explanation as to its relevance ot the discussion. So I'd like if the actual rules regarding that part of the note were clarified, because its' clearly not about what it literally says. which makes it very unclear what the actual rule is.

Yeah, I've been confused by this too. A lot of people including CC like tonpost tweets or articles without explanation, but they're relevant and interesting articles so it seems fine. I actually prefer that to when they're posted with one-line partisan commentary. Example:

Hypothetical User wrote:

(Article about Trump saying/tweeting something that may or may not contradict something he previously tweeted.)


Alternatively:

Hypothetical User wrote:

Lol, what an idiot.
(Article about Trump saying/tweeting something that may or may not contradict something he previously tweeted.)


The former feels fine to me, the latter feels far more likely to create a toxic discussion. A conservative poster who might have commented to explain why they think this statement doesn't actually contradict the ones before is more likely to feel attacked and respond sarcastically/snarkily/aggressively, and everything goes downhill from there.

And there's any number of one-line commentaries Hypothetical User could have used with a similar effect:

-"ugh..."
-"Look what you've done America!"
-"hahahahahahaha"
-"How can anyone defend him at this point..."
-"Are you fucking kidding me?"

I'm not saying any or all of these would be bannable, but I do think that if you ask people to give a couple sentences of explanation for an article or tweet, this is the kind of thing they often come up with, and personally I'd rather they just post it without commentary in that case.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 20 2017 15:25 GMT
#1066
On April 13 2017 05:37 opisska wrote:
He was probably high or something, there is not much reason to think about it too deeply.


LOL
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
April 22 2017 20:58 GMT
#1067
On April 23 2017 05:14 micronesia wrote:
LegalLord, what point are you trying to make? This is supposed to be a discussion thread, not an inject sarcastic complaining one liners thread.

He's no irregularity in even the past ten pages of the thread.

E.g.
On April 22 2017 10:58 Nyxisto wrote:
Bernie will be approximately 120 years old when the next election happens, that doesn't seem like a good idea.

On April 22 2017 06:50 Nevuk wrote:
Frum is a smart man but he has political instincts on par with maybe a drunk and blind racoon.

On April 22 2017 08:20 micronesia wrote:
Can't the wall be paid for by de-funding the portions of the Coast Guard that patrol near the Mexico border and selling large quantities of ladders, shovels, and rope to Mexico?


It's a thread of one-liners sarcastic, ironic, argumentative, etc. Everyone tires of reporting, just accept what it is and change warnings/tempbans to suit instead of singling out one guy among many.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28689 Posts
April 22 2017 21:19 GMT
#1068
There's a question of ratio, though. The occasional sardonic or sarcastic comment is absolutely fine, hell, appreciated even, but everyone has to be willing to genuinely engage. And to Legallord's defense, when pressed, he's usually willing to post his genuine opinion.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
April 22 2017 21:24 GMT
#1069
I still don't understand his opinion on that matter even after he followed up.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
April 25 2017 17:21 GMT
#1070
ugh, this abortion debate is boring; so much utterly terrible quality argumentation.
can we do something about the terrible quality posts that make tons of basic errors even after they've been repeatedly pointed out?
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
April 25 2017 17:23 GMT
#1071
Meh, the conversation has remained fairly civil and I think some good points have been made, unacknowledged they may be.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18050 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-25 17:28:24
April 25 2017 17:27 GMT
#1072
I tried pivoting to gun statistics (and inevitably laws). But nobody took the bait. I also have to say I like philosophy, so this discussion is far more entertaining than electability.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
April 25 2017 20:52 GMT
#1073
Psh abortion debate was wonderful. It should be anthologized in Parasites And You!
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
April 25 2017 21:07 GMT
#1074
i thought the debate was thoroughly unsound and needed stricter moderation.

In all seriousness it was kind of annoying and skip-worthy but whatever. Not every debate is interesting. I might just have to find a way to make abortion transition into electability for times like this.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
April 25 2017 21:13 GMT
#1075
people are unsound. what can you do except sound them out?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 26 2017 07:50 GMT
#1076
Well I learned that you could get a penis pump subsidized by the government in the US, which I consider productive. And I even adopted a quote for a sig, because that was really something golden.

I think LL should have just tried to pose the question whether Hillary still needs women hygiene products.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 26 2017 15:13 GMT
#1077
On April 26 2017 06:07 LegalLord wrote:
i thought the debate was thoroughly unsound and needed stricter moderation.

In all seriousness it was kind of annoying and skip-worthy but whatever. Not every debate is interesting. I might just have to find a way to make abortion transition into electability for times like this.


let me give it a try:

the trump candidacy was carried to (one) term, none of the parents took responsibility/ offerred support except in the situations where the newborn puked on the people they didn't like
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
April 26 2017 15:35 GMT
#1078
On April 27 2017 00:13 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2017 06:07 LegalLord wrote:
i thought the debate was thoroughly unsound and needed stricter moderation.

In all seriousness it was kind of annoying and skip-worthy but whatever. Not every debate is interesting. I might just have to find a way to make abortion transition into electability for times like this.


let me give it a try:

the trump candidacy was carried to (one) term, none of the parents took responsibility/ offerred support except in the situations where the newborn puked on the people they didn't like

Sounds like you're trying too hard. I was thinking something more simple: maybe we wouldn't have to worry about anti-abortionists if only our pro-abortion candidate had been more electable.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
May 09 2017 18:41 GMT
#1079
danglars trolling again, annoying.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
May 09 2017 18:52 GMT
#1080
Well perhaps you should report the posts in question (or in your case, pseudo-report) and call it a day.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
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