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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
May 11 2017 06:51 GMT
#1101
Give me a bear flair and I'm all for it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 11 2017 08:28 GMT
#1102
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"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4685 Posts
May 11 2017 08:45 GMT
#1103
I know we're all joking, but no symbols. Just colors. There are many on the left and right who would be less than enthusiastic with a logo of the two despised parties, which would kind of defeat the purpose :p
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 11 2017 09:01 GMT
#1104
Two colours, and a shitting bear for LL, that's all we are asking for really
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 12 2017 20:29 GMT
#1105
How about no?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-15 18:41:41
May 15 2017 18:36 GMT
#1106
yup, no sound replies to the things i'd said since I was last on that need responding to, as expected, just the usual inaccuracies.
still hoping we can get a competent replacement for tofu.

PS still sick and grumpy.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19019 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-15 19:17:45
May 15 2017 19:17 GMT
#1107
I'm still confused as to why you keep saying I'm incompetent. And if you really want, we can just close the thread until a new mod for it is found
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
May 15 2017 19:26 GMT
#1108
Personally I think the problem here is more with zlefin than with how the thread is being moderated. As far as I've seen I'm more than ok to just report, see a post get actioned or not, and move on, rather than complain how the moderation is incompetent. While there are problems it's actually going ok today.

One minor comment though: it seems that it's alright to use any form of insulting language w.r.t. Trump (e.g. buffoon, clown, etc.), calling anyone else the same seems to be actionable. I think it would be ok to allow neither or both but in either case I see an inconsistency.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
May 15 2017 19:46 GMT
#1109
On May 16 2017 03:36 zlefin wrote:
yup, no sound replies to the things i'd said since I was last on that need responding to, as expected, just the usual inaccuracies.
still hoping we can get a competent replacement for tofu.

PS still sick and grumpy.



is this the thing you think needs responding to?

On May 10 2017 03:41 zlefin wrote:
danglars trolling again, annoying.


or are you talking about some other post of yours with unsound inaccurate responses
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42316 Posts
May 15 2017 20:16 GMT
#1110
On May 16 2017 04:26 LegalLord wrote:
Personally I think the problem here is more with zlefin than with how the thread is being moderated. As far as I've seen I'm more than ok to just report, see a post get actioned or not, and move on, rather than complain how the moderation is incompetent. While there are problems it's actually going ok today.

One minor comment though: it seems that it's alright to use any form of insulting language w.r.t. Trump (e.g. buffoon, clown, etc.), calling anyone else the same seems to be actionable. I think it would be ok to allow neither or both but in either case I see an inconsistency.

As a general rule, insulting a public figure is fair game, insulting a tl poster you're participating in a discussion with isn't.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28612 Posts
May 15 2017 20:19 GMT
#1111
On May 16 2017 04:26 LegalLord wrote:
Personally I think the problem here is more with zlefin than with how the thread is being moderated. As far as I've seen I'm more than ok to just report, see a post get actioned or not, and move on, rather than complain how the moderation is incompetent. While there are problems it's actually going ok today.

One minor comment though: it seems that it's alright to use any form of insulting language w.r.t. Trump (e.g. buffoon, clown, etc.), calling anyone else the same seems to be actionable. I think it would be ok to allow neither or both but in either case I see an inconsistency.


The problem is that Trump is a buffoon and a clown, more so than any other prominent politician. I don't think we've aggressively moderated insults towards other politicians though? And while maybe calling Hillary a clown or buffoon, specifically, might not be okay, those insults also just don't fit her at all? However say, 'completely out of touch' and 'evil' are both terms that I think are pretty much equally insulting, but that I'm fairly certain have been permitted wrt to her.

I think there's a huge difference between insulting politicians themselves and insulting supporters of said politicians, and then there's a further difference between insulting 'generic trump supporters' and people who actually post on our forums. The latter I certainly want to keep to a minimum, I prefer if we manage not to insult generic supporters as well because there's obvious overlap, but I think insulting politicians has to be allowed. Especially as long as Trump is president, because he's just that terrible. Half joking, but only half, as I don't really consider it ideal from a discourse perspective, but I also don't think I'd be able to talk about him without throwing in some negative adjectives, and I can't advocate holding other posters to a standard I don't want to hold myself to.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28612 Posts
May 15 2017 20:20 GMT
#1112
Also, zlefin took it highly personally when tofucake banned him for two days without banning GH at the same time. He just has to learn to deal with that having happened.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
May 15 2017 20:22 GMT
#1113
So to make it clear, calling any given politician a buffoon, clown, or anything similarly offense is fair game as long as it's not directed at anyone actually posting in the thread?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42316 Posts
May 15 2017 20:23 GMT
#1114
Fine by me. I don't ban people either way but I wouldn't consider it banworthy if I did. If you get all weird and sexist doing it or start calling Obama a nigger then obviously we'll have a talk about that but if you're calling Ryan spineless or Hillary corrupt then I'm fine with that.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
May 15 2017 20:24 GMT
#1115
Ok cool. I'll use that as a reference if it ever comes up.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42316 Posts
May 15 2017 20:31 GMT
#1116
On May 16 2017 05:24 LegalLord wrote:
Ok cool. I'll use that as a reference if it ever comes up.

All mods use their own judgement and nothing one says is an automatic get out of jail free card with another, what I'm saying is just my understanding of broad policy as a mod. Also, in case it comes up, insulting figures within the progaming community is less cool, even if they're kinda public figures and even if they don't post on tl.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28612 Posts
May 15 2017 20:32 GMT
#1117
yeah, I basically second Kwark. I mean, there's probably a limit to how often and how aggressively you can insult public figures before you end up being considered a jackass, which also to some degree is actionable, so I'm sure there might arise some situation in the future where someone is warned or banned for a breach of that entirely arbitrary limit..
Moderator
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9151 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-15 23:56:08
May 15 2017 23:51 GMT
#1118
Do I understand it correctly that: "orange retard", "Obongo" or "Le Idiot" won't be actioned if used in moderation?

Asking about these three because they're not as vulgar as "nigger" but they're certainly more than just "buffoon".
You're now breathing manually
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42316 Posts
May 15 2017 23:57 GMT
#1119
Probably best that we don't give exact lines for you to play the "how far can I go?" game with. Use your best judgement and we'll let you know if you get it wrong.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3187 Posts
May 16 2017 00:09 GMT
#1120
On May 16 2017 09:00 xDaunt wrote:
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On May 16 2017 08:55 micronesia wrote:
xDaunt if you've run out of things to discuss, why post? You made an inflammatory post, and while there is still the potential for you to salvage it into a reasonable counterpoint to what others here are saying, all you are doing is responding to another user by being insulting, weakly attempting to indirectly discredit the point made by another, and then making a snide remark that does not address the relevant issue in any way. Go back and read the past few posts of yours and decide if you actually think that's how discussions in this thread should be or not.

I generally don't moderate in this thread because I have a conflict of interest, but your posting is degrading with each passing minute.

Really? You're going to single me out? Like I have said til I have been blue in the face, I don't start shit around here. I'm as a nice as this thread lets me be. There are literally dozens of liberal shitposts for every one of mine. Almost none of them get actioned (and I'm too nice to report every one of them; I'm guessing the other conservative posters are, too). If you mods aren't going to do your job and action shitposts like hunts, then at least have the courtesy to leave me alone.

Hey, this discussion seemed relevant to this thread. micronesia seems to think that this is particularly inflammatory on xDaunt's part, although to me it looked like pretty typical xDaunt posting: xDaunt says a controversial thing, some liberal poster goes aggro challenging him on it, and then xDaunt goes full snark telling them they're too dumb/intellectually dishonest to understand what he said and they should go read it again.

Since people are talking about it I figured I'd bring it up here, although to be clear, if the mods didn't think xDaunt warranted moderation in the past I don't think anything special or new happened here. I do hate when people get snarky and defensive, and as a result refuse to discuss the actual issue or clarify the thing they said that they insist is being misinterpreted, but those problems are hardly limited to xDaunt.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
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