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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 09 2017 19:17 GMT
#1081
On May 10 2017 03:41 zlefin wrote:
danglars trolling again, annoying.

Your post's thrust, from what I could understand of it, overshadowed action by intent. I think too much is being drawn to the intent side of things, but if you disagree please disagree, don't just accuse me of trolling and jetpack on out of there.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
May 09 2017 21:17 GMT
#1082
what the fuck dude? the "thrust [. . . ] overshadowed action by intent?" but "too much is being drawn to the intent side of things?" what's the antithesis of intent? plain meaning?

the opacity of your writing is starting to make any conversation with you completely enraging. your escheresque sentences and dangling clauses give your name new meaning.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 09 2017 21:23 GMT
#1083
On May 10 2017 06:17 IgnE wrote:
what the fuck dude? the "thrust [. . . ] overshadowed action by intent?" but "too much is being drawn to the intent side of things?" what's the antithesis of intent? plain meaning?

the opacity of your writing is starting to make any conversation with you completely enraging. your escheresque sentences and dangling clauses give your name new meaning.

It doesn't matter if the order concealed discrimination by faking domestic security concerns (the action), what matters is the mean things Trump said about muslims on the campaign trail (the intent). That's using one to overshadow the other. If we were in the main thread, I'd ask if you can see those two in opposition.

I've always liked your turns of phrases. My writing is very escheresque and I use far too many dangling clauses.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-09 22:02:02
May 09 2017 22:01 GMT
#1084
so you meant the post of his that you think that he thinks you were trolling him about. not the post in this thread where he accuses you of trolling. i was all ready to talk about "intention to troll."

but fyi i stopped asking you about benghazi because i couldn't tell what your position was despite reading your posts two or three times. i dont care about a youtube video. i was asking about the 8 or 9 separate investigations the republicans conducted to find out that politicians don't tell the full truth.

everyone was also ganging up on you at the same time.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-10 01:22:08
May 10 2017 01:21 GMT
#1085
On May 10 2017 03:52 LegalLord wrote:
Well perhaps you should report the posts in question (or in your case, pseudo-report) and call it a day.

I report there's a problem here. And I did call it a day. there's no shortage of posts with violations from him. it's only a failure to moderate that's kept him from getting banned long ago.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19257 Posts
May 10 2017 01:53 GMT
#1086
Your bar for violation is a lot lower than everyone else's.
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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
May 10 2017 06:48 GMT
#1087
Why was Plansix warned for calling out LL?
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 10 2017 13:51 GMT
#1088
On May 10 2017 15:48 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Why was Plansix warned for calling out LL?

You seriously think calling someone a Russian shill has any place in a debate? Are you crazy?
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 10 2017 13:55 GMT
#1089
On May 10 2017 22:51 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 15:48 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Why was Plansix warned for calling out LL?

You seriously think calling someone a Russian shill has any place in a debate? Are you crazy?


It does in a debate with a Russian shill

C'mon, it was in response to a guy who is openly and blindly pro-Russian calling for "sidestepping the Russia issue". The should be two pages of people calling him out.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-10 19:14:35
May 10 2017 14:21 GMT
#1090
On May 10 2017 22:55 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 22:51 Danglars wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:48 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Why was Plansix warned for calling out LL?

You seriously think calling someone a Russian shill has any place in a debate? Are you crazy?


It does in a debate with a Russian shill

C'mon, it was in response to a guy who is openly and blindly pro-Russian calling for "sidestepping the Russia issue". The should be two pages of people calling him out.

As if "Russia shill" wouldn't poison the debate further! It's childish name calling, not any attempt to call attention to anything. Pithy, derogatory insults would just cascade to infinity if they're tolerated.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
May 10 2017 15:00 GMT
#1091
On May 10 2017 22:55 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 22:51 Danglars wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:48 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Why was Plansix warned for calling out LL?

You seriously think calling someone a Russian shill has any place in a debate? Are you crazy?


It does in a debate with a Russian shill

C'mon, it was in response to a guy who is openly and blindly pro-Russian calling for "sidestepping the Russia issue". The should be two pages of people calling him out.


On May 10 2017 12:03 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 12:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 10 2017 11:53 LegalLord wrote:
On May 10 2017 11:51 KwarK wrote:
On May 10 2017 11:45 LegalLord wrote:
I'd personally sidestep the Russia issue

Least shocking post here.

You want to be a troll or you got something useful to add here?


No one is side stepping anything, shit is about to go down.

Let me word it a little differently: whether it's about Russia or not this is quite clearly a political firing.


I thought it was pretty obvious that the above was what I meant. And if that wasn't something you could figure out I'm wondering if there's any reason to take you seriously.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-10 18:58:17
May 10 2017 18:57 GMT
#1092
On May 10 2017 10:53 tofucake wrote:
Your bar for violation is a lot lower than everyone else's.

yes, which is why the thread is far worse than it could be; because you refuse to clean up the violators

I prefer preventative measures to surgery.
also i'd say even your bars should've been crossed by some of the stuff danglars did. but since you don't read the thread, you're highly unaware of the issues. one of the reasons I'd like if there were another mod in charge of the thread (if there are any available that are better, I don't know how deep the bench is for mod selection, but iirc very few are willing to handle the thread, so we take what's allowed)
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19257 Posts
May 10 2017 19:17 GMT
#1093
Your reports were actively harmful to moderation
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 10 2017 19:21 GMT
#1094
Remember when we had coloured posts for fans of SKT and JINAIR in PL finals? That's what the US thread needs right now - every poster would be able to assign himself to dems or reps and his posts coloured accordingly; then some special posters could have even special colours, but it's a shame that red will be already taken, because that would be very suitable for a special poster.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 10 2017 19:51 GMT
#1095
On May 11 2017 03:57 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 10:53 tofucake wrote:
Your bar for violation is a lot lower than everyone else's.

yes, which is why the thread is far worse than it could be; because you refuse to clean up the violators

I prefer preventative measures to surgery.
also i'd say even your bars should've been crossed by some of the stuff danglars did. but since you don't read the thread, you're highly unaware of the issues. one of the reasons I'd like if there were another mod in charge of the thread (if there are any available that are better, I don't know how deep the bench is for mod selection, but iirc very few are willing to handle the thread, so we take what's allowed)

You don't even adhere to your own idealized moderation standards, so it'd be best for everyone if you simply quit commenting on the moderation.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14208 Posts
May 10 2017 20:02 GMT
#1096
On May 11 2017 04:21 opisska wrote:
Remember when we had coloured posts for fans of SKT and JINAIR in PL finals? That's what the US thread needs right now - every poster would be able to assign himself to dems or reps and his posts coloured accordingly; then some special posters could have even special colours, but it's a shame that red will be already taken, because that would be very suitable for a special poster.

It would only work if people were allowed to upvote and downvote others political affiliation insofar as their perspective.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 10 2017 22:12 GMT
#1097
On May 11 2017 05:02 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 04:21 opisska wrote:
Remember when we had coloured posts for fans of SKT and JINAIR in PL finals? That's what the US thread needs right now - every poster would be able to assign himself to dems or reps and his posts coloured accordingly; then some special posters could have even special colours, but it's a shame that red will be already taken, because that would be very suitable for a special poster.

It would only work if people were allowed to upvote and downvote others political affiliation insofar as their perspective.

tbh it would also have to be either red or blue. A left-leaning forum (probably far-left from American standards) would just consider some moderate liberals as nonpartisan and the rest leftists. It would be fun to see all the pages that ended up fully colored blue, I have to say. The fun experiment would be who you voted for in the last presidential election or the average party voted for in the last five or six.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
May 11 2017 03:54 GMT
#1098
ain't no one been around for 5 or 6 elections danglars.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 11 2017 04:46 GMT
#1099
I don't know what I was thinking. An average of previous votes, put in your senators and congressmen if you feel like it. I'm more in for seeing the cool colors rather than actual improvement; you get an idea of where people are coming from pretty quickly without it.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18441 Posts
May 11 2017 06:43 GMT
#1100
On May 11 2017 13:46 Danglars wrote:
I don't know what I was thinking. An average of previous votes, put in your senators and congressmen if you feel like it. I'm more in for seeing the cool colors rather than actual improvement; you get an idea of where people are coming from pretty quickly without it.

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