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So I was browsing the General Forum just now looking for funny things, and I found this thread:
Penis biting escort charged with attempted murder
With these bans in it.
On April 05 2013 09:21 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 09:15 TheGiftedApe wrote:On April 05 2013 09:12 -_- wrote:
I can't tell you how many times this has happened to me. I'm just happy and surprised the police are finally sticking up for the man. what?? The Murder charges will probably be lowered but there is something to be said when someone is under physical attack and your attacker is denying you ability to contact law enforcement, it is definitely worthy of heavier charges than simple assault, such as two drunk guys fighting outside of a bar or something. He was obviously dicking around. User was temp banned for this post.
On April 05 2013 09:22 Marti wrote:
nom nom noming the sausage !
User was warned for this post
On April 05 2013 10:31 hypercube wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 10:26 Mvrio wrote:On April 05 2013 09:09 Dienosore wrote:
This kind of news is hard to digest. what you did there, i sees it Can you say: She seems to have bitten off more than she could chew. User was warned for this post
On April 05 2013 10:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 10:31 hypercube wrote:On April 05 2013 10:26 Mvrio wrote:On April 05 2013 09:09 Dienosore wrote:
This kind of news is hard to digest. what you did there, i sees it Can you say: She seems to have bitten off more than she could chew. She must have been having a ball with all that ecstasy. User was warned for this post
So I looked at the ABL and saw this:
StarStruck was just temp banned for 2 days by KwarK. *
That account was created on 2010-04-28 00:02:28 and had 17428 posts.
Reason: We're not doing general forum puns anymore.
*This is not a KwarK hate thread
I feel like the general forum is waayyyyy too serious at times. Between the US politics thread and all the depressing news stories that come up, nothing's that funny because there's someone who is aggro posting against whatever anyone else says.
So when a topic comes up as ridiculous as this, and I repeat
Penis biting escort charged with attempted murder
What on earth are people supposed to do except make bad puns? Discuss the legality of escorts? Talk about the court proceedings? That's just way too serious.
Besides, when did General start having these unspoken rules of "no puns"? I can understand banning the crazy US-hating-North-Korea-is-best people, but being funny shouldn't be a reason for a ban.
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Yes, I saw that too, and don't really understand. When I went to the banlist to check for why they were banned and saw the pun reasoning, I went straight here to check if there was something saying that the General Forums were getting a rule change.
I could see if the mods wanted to tighten up the posting in the General Forum, as puns don't really add much to discussion besides being a joke, but there's all kinds of one-liners and "reaction posts", that didn't receive any moderation, and I haven't seen any announcement of changes to the General Forum. So, why single out puns?
Right now, I'm pretty confused and I'd like to hear the reasoning behind the warnings/bans from a mod. I don't want to jump to conclusions, so I'd like to get their side of the story before I make any judgements.
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I reckon "What on earth are people supposed to do except make bad puns?" is exactly why the thread got closed.
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Pretty sure it is not a precedent. Shit read like a reddit thread also known as shit posting.
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Maybe KwarK has been traumatized by similar events in the past and doesn't appriciate jokes being made about such a serious topic.
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I doubt it. Kwark doesnt sound like a guy who will bite someones penis off.
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Well, the thread's closed, that's a relief.
But...I'd still like to know why no puns are allowed...
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i was going to make a similar thread, but this one is here so i will just tack my thoughts on down here
a lot of the personality and humor of the TL community shows in small cute things like the puns general forums.. this is a forum on the internet built around a video game and filled with people that are mostly pretty young.
i don't feel like we really need to be so serious as having a ban rule about things like making jokes or puns
maybe things that are blatantly rude or seriously distasteful.. but just for making light of things?
edit -
if you guys do decide to keep warning/banning for puns - can we get the Ten Commandments updated?
we can make "No Puns in General Forum" the 11th commandment 
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Pun exchanges kind of hamper discussion. Even if a hooker biting someone's dick isn't going to be a huge center for debate, certainly no discussion is gonna happen if all people are doing is tossing around lame puns that take 0 effort to make and aren't really funny at all.
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On April 06 2013 01:29 marttorn wrote:
Pun exchanges kind of hamper discussion. Even if a hooker biting someone's dick isn't going to be a huge center for debate, certainly no discussion is gonna happen if all people are doing is tossing around lame puns that take 0 effort to make and aren't really funny at all.
the puns were never an issue before recently.. TL's been around for a long time
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On April 06 2013 01:29 marttorn wrote:
Pun exchanges kind of hamper discussion. Even if a hooker biting someone's dick isn't going to be a huge center for debate, certainly no discussion is gonna happen if all people are doing is tossing around lame puns that take 0 effort to make and aren't really funny at all.
Dude, those puns had me cracking a smile at work. They were funny. You're just boring
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Hyrule19210 Posts
You said it yourself: what's the point of the thread if not to make bad puns?
So it was closed and offenders banned. General is for discussion, not shitposting (there are plenty of other places to do that).
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On April 06 2013 04:56 tofucake wrote:
You said it yourself: what's the point of the thread if not to make bad puns?
So it was closed and offenders banned. General is for discussion, not shitposting (there are plenty of other places to do that).
when you say shitposting are you referring to the topic or the puns?
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I support op. TL is a video gaming community (for the most part) and banning people who try to cheer up the general forum would just lower the enjoyment of looking through news threads. I mean, why ban people for making puns, but not other funny one-liners that add nothing to the thread. I posted "Escorts are too dangerous nowadays. Invest in sex doll." in the same thread, but did not receive any moderation. What makes my post so much better than those puns? Nothing really. So if you're going to crack down on puns, just start banning everyone that tries cracking a joke or trying to make someone smile. Turn the general forum into a regular online news site because TL is too serious a site to condone anything funny, god forbid PUNS.
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On April 06 2013 02:28 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 01:29 marttorn wrote:
Pun exchanges kind of hamper discussion. Even if a hooker biting someone's dick isn't going to be a huge center for debate, certainly no discussion is gonna happen if all people are doing is tossing around lame puns that take 0 effort to make and aren't really funny at all. the puns were never an issue before recently.. TL's been around for a long time
before recently sc2 didn't exist
On April 06 2013 02:31 TOCHMY wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 01:29 marttorn wrote:
Pun exchanges kind of hamper discussion. Even if a hooker biting someone's dick isn't going to be a huge center for debate, certainly no discussion is gonna happen if all people are doing is tossing around lame puns that take 0 effort to make and aren't really funny at all. Dude, those puns had me cracking a smile at work. They were funny. You're just boring
i am not a boring person, this is slanderous. i have an essay prepared that explains why, but i misplaced it
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On April 06 2013 06:46 marttorn wrote:
before recently sc2 didn't exist
not sure what SC2 has to do with this.. TL puns have been around longer than sc2
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On April 06 2013 07:02 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:not sure what SC2 has to do with this.. TL puns have been around longer than sc2
sc2 = huge influx of members, which changes posting standards in general threads. Maybe they just decided to arbitrarily end pun exchanges now, though, I don't know, but it makes sense that they're not as OK because of the huge amount of members
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On April 06 2013 07:17 marttorn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 07:02 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On April 06 2013 06:46 marttorn wrote:
before recently sc2 didn't exist
not sure what SC2 has to do with this.. TL puns have been around longer than sc2 sc2 = huge influx of members, which changes posting standards in general threads. Maybe they just decided to arbitrarily end pun exchanges now, though, I don't know, but it makes sense that they're not as OK because of the huge amount of members
That makes no sense. How does an increase in the number of members lead to higher posting standards in anything but the strategy and general forums for Starcraft 2?
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On April 06 2013 08:43 Praetorial wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 07:17 marttorn wrote:On April 06 2013 07:02 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On April 06 2013 06:46 marttorn wrote:
before recently sc2 didn't exist
not sure what SC2 has to do with this.. TL puns have been around longer than sc2 sc2 = huge influx of members, which changes posting standards in general threads. Maybe they just decided to arbitrarily end pun exchanges now, though, I don't know, but it makes sense that they're not as OK because of the huge amount of members That makes no sense. How does an increase in the number of members lead to higher posting standards in anything but the strategy and general forums for Starcraft 2?
Because the increase in traffic, and the stricter rules necessary because of it, were not limited to those two forums. Users that joined because of SC2 use the general forum as well.
That said, that would make sense if that was a policy that started soon after SC2 was released. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't remember puns being punished before unless they were done in a very insensitive way in threads that should be taken seriously. The death of puns isn't exactly a huge loss, but I personally found it a little odd that other silly comments that were equally not productive received no action, be it in that or other threads in general.
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On April 06 2013 08:53 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 08:43 Praetorial wrote:On April 06 2013 07:17 marttorn wrote:On April 06 2013 07:02 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On April 06 2013 06:46 marttorn wrote:
before recently sc2 didn't exist
not sure what SC2 has to do with this.. TL puns have been around longer than sc2 sc2 = huge influx of members, which changes posting standards in general threads. Maybe they just decided to arbitrarily end pun exchanges now, though, I don't know, but it makes sense that they're not as OK because of the huge amount of members That makes no sense. How does an increase in the number of members lead to higher posting standards in anything but the strategy and general forums for Starcraft 2? Because the increase in traffic, and the stricter rules necessary because of it, were not limited to those two forums. Users that joined because of SC2 use the general forum as well. That said, that would make sense if that was a policy that started soon after SC2 was released. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't remember puns being punished before unless they were done in a very insensitive way in threads that should be taken seriously. The death of puns isn't exactly a huge loss, but I personally found it a little odd that other silly comments that were equally not productive received no action, be it in that or other threads in general.
Yeah, basically this. I don't think pun exchanges have been banned since the sc2 influx came, so maybe they just now decided to do it. Anyway, as skc explains, yes it does make sense (re: prae)
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as of my warning from kwark on 11-17-2012
"We don't do this anymore on tl when people die." and that was the first i had heard of not being able to do it "when people die"
which is still unnecessary IMO but i can at least see the reason for it
the all out prohibition of puns is a more recent development
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I'm extremely glad that moderators are warning people for trying to make funny puns in a thread. Anyone who has been on Reddit knows the trend where people take a serious topic and just try to make a funny joke about it to get upvotes. Its fucking stupid and distracts from the conversation. Long live TL mods!
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On April 06 2013 14:31 Mohdoo wrote:
I'm extremely glad that moderators are warning people for trying to make funny puns in a thread. Anyone who has been on Reddit knows the trend where people take a serious topic and just try to make a funny joke about it to get upvotes. Its fucking stupid and distracts from the conversation. Long live TL mods!
TL puns have been around longer than reddit, too.
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All in all, put a damn note in TL commandments about puns so that I don't accidently write something funny related to an OP
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
We're looking into these and related incidents in an effort to ensure site wide consistentcy so that people are aware of the standards we expect.
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On April 07 2013 09:57 Plexa wrote:
We're looking into these and related incidents in an effort to ensure site wide consistentcy so that people are aware of the standards we expect.
Thanks Plexa!
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I guess it can be difficult to find the middle ground that allows levity and humor (in accordance with "Still others contribute by simply making everyone laugh.") while still stopping this Reddity pollution of meaningless one liners.
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On April 07 2013 09:57 Plexa wrote:
We're looking into these and related incidents in an effort to ensure site wide consistentcy so that people are aware of the standards we expect.
thanks. and for what it's worth.. less is more when things like this are concerned IMO. i think it's better to leave it open to make the puns but allow mods to warn for extremely distasteful ones (based on discretion of course)
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On April 05 2013 11:11 Praetorial wrote:
*This is not a KwarK hate thread
What a missed opportunity!
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