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GSTL May Teams - no IM - Page 39
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unoriginalname
England380 Posts
Seems GOMTV are trolling. | ||
kiniko
Canada163 Posts
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DirtYLOu
575 Posts
Click it, and on main page, upper banner there will be MVP instead of IM. | ||
Corvette
United States433 Posts
IIRC FOU has only 1 player in the GSL. If they get any more it will be from qualifiers | ||
DirtYLOu
575 Posts
On May 16 2011 03:21 Corvette wrote: IM will be back for the next team league. IIRC FOU has only 1 player in the GSL. If they get any more it will be from qualifiers GSL announced they gonna change format for next seasons. So like 2 teams from finals will stay for next season and stuff like that ;p | ||
Corvette
United States433 Posts
On May 16 2011 03:23 DirtYLOu wrote: GSL announced they gonna change format for next seasons. So like 2 teams from finals will stay for next season and stuff like that ;p I kinda wish that they didnt though. What Ive always loved about the GSL is how much it rewards consistency. The process of going in and out of A/S I know the other side of the argument is consistent results in the Team League, which IM has with 1st and 2nd place. But I like having teams that have a larger presence in the individual league in the team league because it gives us more of the same players playing games. Instead of a bunch of code B players from other teams. | ||
fant0m
964 Posts
In parenthesis afterwards are the point changes from losing in RO32 of May's Code A and from falling in the Up/Down matches. Team League Participants: 1. oGs : (7+2) 13.2 (-0.6) 2. TSL : (6+0) 9.6 (-0.4) 3. Prime : (4+2) 8.4 (-0.6) 4. SlayerS : (1+5) 6.6 (-2) 5. StarTale : (3+1) 5.8 (-3) 5. MVP : (3+1) 5.8 (-1.8) 8. ZeNEX : (3+0) 4.8 (-1.4) 11. fOu : (1+0) 1.6 (-4.0) Teams that didn't qualify: 5. IM : (3+1) 5.8 (+0.6) 9. Liquid : (1+1) 2.6 (-0.6) 10. NS호서 : (0+2) 2 (-1.6) 12. FOX : (0+1) 1 (-0.6) I think it's pretty obvious who the outlier is.... and which team was the ONLY ONE to gain points instead of losing them during the season. And that outlier isn't a scrappy new team, they're an old and tired team with 1 good player. | ||
mardi
United States1164 Posts
On May 16 2011 13:41 fant0m wrote: I figured out what the current point standings would be if they redid it after May had been played: In parenthesis afterwards are the point changes from losing in RO32 of May's Code A and from falling in the Up/Down matches. Team League Participants: 1. oGs : (7+2) 13.2 (-0.6) 2. TSL : (6+0) 9.6 (-0.4) 3. Prime : (4+2) 8.4 (-0.6) 4. SlayerS : (1+5) 6.6 (-2) 5. StarTale : (3+1) 5.8 (-3) 5. MVP : (3+1) 5.8 (-1.8) 8. ZeNEX : (3+0) 4.8 (-1.4) 11. fOu : (1+0) 1.6 (-4.0) Teams that didn't qualify: 5. IM : (3+1) 5.8 (+0.6) 9. Liquid : (1+1) 2.6 (-0.6) 10. NS호서 : (0+2) 2 (-1.6) 12. FOX : (0+1) 1 (-0.6) I think it's pretty obvious who the outlier is.... and which team was the ONLY ONE to gain points instead of losing them during the season. And that outlier isn't a scrappy new team, they're an old and tired team with 1 good player. IM isn't an old and tired team with "1" good player. They have several good players. Nestea just won the Code S championship. MVP got silver in the Code A championship and Losira made it to the ro8 to lose to sCfou. They definitely have more than "1" good player. | ||
Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On May 16 2011 13:49 mardi wrote: IM isn't an old and tired team with "1" good player. They have several good players. Nestea just won the Code S championship. MVP got silver in the Code A championship and Losira made it to the ro8 to lose to sCfou. They definitely have more than "1" good player. I think he was referring to fOu though I may be mistaken. Either way, fOu is looking VERY weak now. Choya was hanging on for awhile there but finally fell... Leenock just disappeared from code A... and the rest have been struggling to make it into code A. | ||
StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On May 16 2011 13:59 Chicane wrote: I think he was referring to fOu though I may be mistaken. Either way, fOu is looking VERY weak now. Choya was hanging on for awhile there but finally fell... Leenock just disappeared from code A... and the rest have been struggling to make it into code A. Yeah he was referring to f0u, lol. Just his sentence was terribly worded. Outlier referring to f0u at -4.0 | ||
Dakkas
2550 Posts
The purpose of the team league to test who has the better team overall, having one star player will only get you so far. | ||
Quarz
448 Posts
On May 16 2011 14:56 Dakkas wrote: I support GOM for what they did, about not letting IM in. While it's true IM is one of the strongest teams, they have a rather shallow line-up overall with a heavy reliance on MVP, Nestea and Losira most of the time. The purpose of the team league to test who has the better team overall, having one star player will only get you so far. lol, to have 3 very good players is a shallow line-up... I dont know what to say. | ||
Geovu
Estonia1344 Posts
On May 16 2011 14:56 Dakkas wrote: I support GOM for what they did, about not letting IM in. While it's true IM is one of the strongest teams, they have a rather shallow line-up overall with a heavy reliance on MVP, Nestea and Losira most of the time. The purpose of the team league to test who has the better team overall, having one star player will only get you so far. What are you talking about every single one of their players is amazing lol. Just 'cause you couldn't smash your way through 1000 other people to get into a 64 man group doesn't mean shit. | ||
Wren
United States745 Posts
On May 16 2011 15:02 Quarz wrote: lol, to have 3 very good players is a shallow line-up... I dont know what to say. that's what's so ridiculous about this situation, IM is a vastly better team than fOu. They have 3 GSL players who are all at least as good as fOu's only player. | ||
Wren
United States745 Posts
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mrjpark
United States276 Posts
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Bobble
Australia1493 Posts
On May 16 2011 15:28 mrjpark wrote: Here's the thing... It's a "good move" by GomTV because they really didn't have any other options; letting IM in just because they're IM would've created outrage. They had to stick by the rules. It shouldn't have gotten here in the first place. Getting into Code A is a crap shoot with all the quality players -- and cheesers -- that are in the qualification rounds. IM has players like Yoda, YongHwa, and Seed that have shown us that they are most definitely Code A quality and probably better than a lot of Code A players. Unfortunately, that information is more subjective than objective and can't really be used as an argument for IM's strength. It is in Gom's interest to have IM participate in the tournament because of the fan base. There is no way fOu is a better overall team. They don't have individuals that excel consistently, and have continually been humiliated in the team league. Same with ZENEX. GomTV REALLY needed to see a situation coming like this beforehand where mediocrity is actually rewarding teams over proven excellence. You can't honestly say IM hasn't made their statement these last two seasons. Their "up and coming" kids have been roflstomping nerds in the team league, and they only used Mvp and Nestea when they absolutely had to. agreed, players like Yoda, YongHwa and seed are amazing players, and definitely worthy of kicking in in Code A. However, one way or another they did not make it to Code A. The rules are clear as day, and fOu simply have too many players in Code A. They do deserve their spot, as much as any other team. If they didn't, they wouldn't be in the GTSL. Simple. | ||
Highways
Australia6098 Posts
On May 16 2011 14:56 Dakkas wrote: I support GOM for what they did, about not letting IM in. While it's true IM is one of the strongest teams, they have a rather shallow line-up overall with a heavy reliance on MVP, Nestea and Losira most of the time. The purpose of the team league to test who has the better team overall, having one star player will only get you so far. That is the worst logic ever. If that is the case, then why is fou in it? They have no depth at all, only one player in the whole GSL. IM has 3 championship quality players and proven performers in the GSTL (IMSeed who got a triple kill against oGs and IMYounghwa who is 7-2 in GSTL). This team is 10 times stronger and deeper than fOu. | ||
mrjpark
United States276 Posts
On May 16 2011 15:39 Bobble wrote: agreed, players like Yoda, YongHwa and seed are amazing players, and definitely worthy of kicking in in Code A. However, one way or another they did not make it to Code A. The rules are clear as day, and fOu simply have too many players in Code A. They do deserve their spot, as much as any other team. If they didn't, they wouldn't be in the GTSL. Simple. Funny thing is that it looks like fOu only has one guy left in the GSL after the up-and-downs? I mean, once again, GomTV can't change the rules after they figure out where they screwed up, but sh*t. | ||
lololol
5198 Posts
On May 16 2011 15:47 Highways wrote: That is the worst logic ever. If that is the case, then why is fou in it? They have no depth at all, only one player in the whole GSL. IM has 3 championship quality players and proven performers in the GSTL (IMSeed who got a triple kill against oGs and IMYounghwa who is 7-2 in GSTL). This team is 10 times stronger and deeper than fOu. As you can easily see in the OP, the snapshot used for the team ranking has fOu with 4 code A players and 1 in code S. | ||
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