EPTCruncher Fan club - Page 11
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Sky Net
United States134 Posts
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Mitchlew
Australia428 Posts
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
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Nothingtosay
United States875 Posts
If Nani beats Cruncher trolls will say "SEE I KNEW HE WAS BAD" | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On April 19 2011 22:33 Nothingtosay wrote: If Cruncher beats Nani trolls will say "ITS PVP LOL" If Nani beats Cruncher trolls will say "SEE I KNEW HE WAS BAD" But these two scenarios are logical for someone who thinks that Nani is better than Cruncher and don't contradict themselves at all? If your premise is that Nani is better than Cruncher, this is the normal reaction to both events. | ||
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vdale
Germany1173 Posts
On April 19 2011 22:47 Bobster wrote: haha But these two scenarios are logical for someone who thinks that Nani is better than Cruncher and don't contradict themselves at all? If your premise is that Nani is better than Cruncher, this is the normal reaction to both events. No it's not. I think Naniwa is better and will win it, but I don't think that Cruncher is bad, he is just worse than Nani (like every other non-korean protoss nowadays) . | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
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Sky Net
United States134 Posts
On April 19 2011 22:36 Sated wrote: To be fair, most trolls are still wondering why there are more pictures of IdrA than Cruncher in the OP. If they aren't fans of Cruncher they have no reason to care what's in the OP. Cruncher's series over Idra gained him a lot of fans, hence there are some goofs on Idra in his the OP. Rocket science? If you are a Cruncher fan and would like to suggest some constructive changes to the OP then by all means, I'd support those types of posts. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 20 2011 01:02 Sky Net wrote: If they aren't fans of Cruncher they have no reason to care what's in the OP. Cruncher's series over Idra gained him a lot of fans, hence there are some goofs on Idra in his the OP. Rocket science? Well I am a Cruncher fan and I dont care about all the Idra nonsense. Its overdone and annoying. About the naniwa match: PvP seems to be Crunchers worst matchup by far. Anything else than a loss would be a surprise. | ||
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Sky Net
United States134 Posts
(Predicting Naniwa 3-1, but rooting for Cruncher. He has beaten Kiwikaki and Inca so it's not impossible) | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10349 Posts
keep the smile on | ||
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Nothingtosay
United States875 Posts
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liewec
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frucisky
Singapore2170 Posts
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
On April 20 2011 13:59 frucisky wrote: Well said by Tyler on Mondragon vs Cruncher. More props to amazing defense by Cruncher. He did give him props for his good defence but still acknowledged that he got outplayed. It was interesting to see Tylers PoV | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
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Sensator
Australia377 Posts
This is what I am reminded of every time I see Cruncher. | ||
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Sky Net
United States134 Posts
On April 20 2011 14:11 Moonling wrote: He did give him props for his good defence but still acknowledged that he got outplayed. It was interesting to see Tylers PoV He didn't acknowledge that Cruncher got "outplayed" overall, he said something like you can outplay someone, but then lose because of one mistake (i.e. you were outplaying them before the mistake but not after). That whole segment was so ridiculous. I can't believe how many people are saying Mondragon outplayed Cruncher in game 2 when Mondragon sacrificed about 45 roaches to do almost no damage until he finally got those nexus snipes late in the game (by then it was too late). It was a classic rope-a-dope situation: people think the aggressive guy is winning, while he's actually not doing nearly enough damage to make up for his expenditure... and then he simply gets knocked out. I challenge anyone who disagrees to re-watch the game and pay careful attention to how each attack works out for Mondragon. Much of it will look something like "kill destructable rocks - lose 5 roaches", "kill forge - lose 7 roaches", "kill 2 cannons and a pylon - lose 10 roaches & 2 overlords". | ||
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On April 21 2011 07:53 Sky Net wrote: He didn't acknowledge that Cruncher got "outplayed" overall, he said something like you can outplay someone, but then lose because of one mistake (i.e. you were outplaying them before the mistake but not after). That whole segment was so ridiculous. I can't believe how many people are saying Mondragon outplayed Cruncher in game 2 when Mondragon sacrificed about 45 roaches to do almost no damage until he finally got those nexus snipes late in the game (by then it was too late). It was a classic rope-a-dope situation: people think the aggressive guy is winning, while he's actually not doing nearly enough damage to make up for his expenditure... and then he simply gets knocked out. I challenge anyone who disagrees to re-watch the game and pay careful attention to how each attack works out for Mondragon. Much of it will look something like "kill destructable rocks - lose 5 roaches", "kill forge - lose 7 roaches", "kill 2 cannons and a pylon - lose 10 roaches & 2 overlords". Wow, this is so full of bias I don't even know what to say. I saw the games, let me tell you what you saw, and what actually happened. Much of it will look something like "kill destructable rocks - lose 5 roaches", "kill forge - lose 7 roaches" What actually happened was that Mondragon distracted Cruncher by attacking the backdoor rocks so that his army would be displaced. Then Mondragon attacks with a more sizable roach army to break the front wall while the main air army of Cruncher is all the way on the other side of the map killing 5 roaches. Mondragon snipes a forge before the upgrade is complete. Don't take my word for it, the commentators acknowledge it too. It was smart, and clearly more then Cruncher could handle to stop. (hint: outplayed) The reason why people are on the "he got outplayed" boat is because Cruncher didn't do anything out of the ordinary (herp derp deathball) while Mondragon was all over the place. The "outplayed" part came by virtue of comparing two people, one who clearly showed that he worked harder then the other player. Outplaying someone doesn't necessarily mean beating someone (as we can see from this example), it just means demonstrating more talent and skill. In the end, even Mondragon realized after the matches that he lost because he didn't tech infestors. That doesn't change the fact that he didn't outplay Cruncher, he just wasn't aware of how good infestors really are. Some people argue that Cruncher "defended well" but I don't even agree that Cruncher defended well at all. Defending is supposed to be easier then attacking in the first place due to defender's advantage. It's so stupid when people argue "His drops were shit, he didn't kill enough" because you could easily say "Cruncher's defense was so shit, he shouldn't have lost anything". With defender's advantage, why couldn't we expect Cruncher to not lose a Nexus from all that harass if he defense was "so good?". Again, flawed argument. | ||
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