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On February 02 2011 02:48 Scorcher2k wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 10:58 ReaverDrop! wrote: They're just animals, they are the property of the man who owns them, what he does to them is nobodies business as far as I'm concerned. You have to be a sick son of a bitch to actually view an animal, let alone a domesticated one, in this way. I'll never understand how people can hurt others and/or animals...
Are you a vegan?
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Canadians have a healthy attitude to nature.
When you live, historically, in a region where hunting is the principal source of food you dont anthropomorphisize animals as having human reasoning and intelligence.
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On February 01 2011 10:58 ReaverDrop! wrote: They're just animals, they are the property of the man who owns them, what he does to them is nobodies business as far as I'm concerned.
Humans are animals too. I'd be warned/banned for speaking it outright, but maybe you should aim for a career as a sled dog, I hear it's a lucrative business!
@treemonkeys; by lethal injection, yes, its quite a difference
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On February 01 2011 11:07 ShoCkeyy wrote: If this was in Florida, they would be sentenced for first degree murder. Florida's laws against killing a dog is considered as to killing a human. Fuck these guys, I get so angry when I read stories like these.
I'm not sure if I've heard of a law that stupid before.
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On February 01 2011 10:58 ReaverDrop! wrote: They're just animals, they are the property of the man who owns them, what he does to them is nobodies business as far as I'm concerned.
Lol wow, you might have dropped the most provocative line in this thread. Thankfully, our ancestors didn't have any of this animal rights bullshit, or we would've died out ages ago. That being said, I can't believe people are more emotional about 100 dogs being killed, than about thousands of Africans dying from hunger. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
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On February 02 2011 02:52 resilve wrote: Canadians have a healthy attitude to nature.
When you live, historically, in a region where hunting is the principal source of food you dont anthropomorphisize animals as having human reasoning and intelligence.
How does hunting have anything to do with killing a domesticated animal that is under your control? I would say that there are plenty of dogs that are smarter than a lot of humans as well. Start comparing the dogs to mentally disabled humans and it gets even easier. Are you now going to say that it doesn't count somehow?
On February 02 2011 03:00 buhhy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 10:58 ReaverDrop! wrote: They're just animals, they are the property of the man who owns them, what he does to them is nobodies business as far as I'm concerned. Lol wow, you might have dropped the most provocative line in this thread. Thankfully, our ancestors didn't have any of this animal rights bullshit, or we would've died out ages ago. That being said, I can't believe people are more emotional about 100 dogs being killed, than about thousands of Africans dying from hunger. Ignorance is bliss, I guess. I'm fairly certain our ancestors would not shoot a bunch of fucking dogs for no reason. It isn't ignorance, it is first hand connection. Almost everyone has had a dog or known a dog that they liked. Not everyone has been to a place and talked with starving african children. It also isn't like you have a damn clue on whether or not the people in this thread showing out rage donate or not to those starving people.
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I feel sorry for people who think that it's okay to unnecessarily kill animals. I feel blessed to not be one of them.
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If you have to cull animals, either train the culler how to do it properly or hire someone with experience to do it. Otherwise, this happens.
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I don't mean to sound like a prick, but I don't see the big deal at all. Cattle and chickens and other livestock are slaughtered by the tens of thousands every day, why are you making a fuss out of a hundred dogs? It's not like they were killed for sport or in an unnecessarily cruel way. It angers me when people who eat meat and buy leather boots and purses bitch when someone happens to write an article about some animal they give two shits about.
Yes, it takes someone writing an article and someone posting it on teamliquid as well for you to take notice, you realize of course shit like this happens all the time? And then the next day you forget all about it and get yourself a fur coat and a burger, because after all you don't have time to spare to make a difference. I sure don't, but you don't see me acting all holier-than-thou about this stuff. Humans are at the top of the food chain and there are billions of us. treating each individual animal with respect and dignity just isn't practically feasible.
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On February 02 2011 03:00 buhhy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 10:58 ReaverDrop! wrote: They're just animals, they are the property of the man who owns them, what he does to them is nobodies business as far as I'm concerned. Lol wow, you might have dropped the most provocative line in this thread. Thankfully, our ancestors didn't have any of this animal rights bullshit, or we would've died out ages ago. That being said, I can't believe people are more emotional about 100 dogs being killed, than about thousands of Africans dying from hunger. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
This is my overall impression of reading the thread.
The levels of magnitude in 'wrongs' is so very important in life. A man killing 100 worthless working animals (worthless in economic terms, ofc) is sad. But if there is anything to moralize and be outraged over I think the fact that a child dies every 30 seconds from Malyria, that 2.6 billion people live without sanitation, or that 1.5 billion people live withour electricity are more important.
I realize that it is not 'either or' in caring for animals and caring for humans - but in terms of the 'bad acts' occuring in the world, this is of no consequence what-so-ever.
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On February 02 2011 03:04 Osmoses wrote: It's not like they were killed for sport or in an unnecessarily cruel way. It angers me when people who eat meat and buy leather boots and purses bitch when someone happens to write an article about some animal they give two shits about. This was an organized cull of domestic animals, it should have been performed in a professional manner. Handing someone a gun and saying "we need these dogs dead" is not sufficient.
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this is best news ive heard
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Shit like this shows how savage humans can be. If you have no choice but to kill them..at least do it properly. Don't just blast their heads off and slit their throats yada yada. I feel sad that people can believe that this stuff is okay imo.
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On February 02 2011 03:09 bonifaceviii wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 03:04 Osmoses wrote: It's not like they were killed for sport or in an unnecessarily cruel way. It angers me when people who eat meat and buy leather boots and purses bitch when someone happens to write an article about some animal they give two shits about. This was an organized cull of domestic animals, it should have been performed in a professional manner. Handing someone a gun and saying "we need these dogs dead" is not sufficient. Everything's an easy call in hindsight. I mean, a shot to the head is supposed to be a quick death, isn't it?
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On February 02 2011 03:09 bonifaceviii wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 03:04 Osmoses wrote: It's not like they were killed for sport or in an unnecessarily cruel way. It angers me when people who eat meat and buy leather boots and purses bitch when someone happens to write an article about some animal they give two shits about. This was an organized cull of domestic animals, it should have been performed in a professional manner. Handing someone a gun and saying "we need these dogs dead" is not sufficient.
I agree that it should have been done professionally, but I disagree with your statement saying that a gun cannot be used professionally. With one shot to the head these dogs could have been disposed of peacefully and with no pain on their part at all.
However, one man can not kill 100 dogs in a few days alone, there is simply too much work and the nature of the work makes it very intense. A sloppy job was done by an obviously irrational person in this case, causing a complete disaster.
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On February 02 2011 03:18 Osmoses wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 03:09 bonifaceviii wrote:On February 02 2011 03:04 Osmoses wrote: It's not like they were killed for sport or in an unnecessarily cruel way. It angers me when people who eat meat and buy leather boots and purses bitch when someone happens to write an article about some animal they give two shits about. This was an organized cull of domestic animals, it should have been performed in a professional manner. Handing someone a gun and saying "we need these dogs dead" is not sufficient. Everything's an easy call in hindsight. I mean, a shot to the head is supposed to be a quick death, isn't it? Shelters have to spend a hell of a lot of money and time on training and equipment in order to pass animal cruelty inspections and they do basically the same thing (ie slaughter dogs). Of course it's hindsight, but a tour manager with a gun is not going to know the ins and outs of animal cruelty law with regard to mass euthanasia.
They cut corners, and took a reputational risk doing so. The ensuing media firestorm is the result.
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as I love dogs very much this is so sad... why don't they just give it to us dudes here. (well they're not going to be eaten if you know what I'm saying.)
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why not just let the dogs go in the wilderness?
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On February 02 2011 03:26 dbizzle wrote: why not just let the dogs go in the wilderness? Because there's no sleds to pull in the wilderness, duh.
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On February 02 2011 03:15 Ayush_SCtoss wrote: Shit like this shows how savage humans can be. If you have no choice but to kill them..at least do it properly. Don't just blast their heads off and slit their throats yada yada. I feel sad that people can believe that this stuff is okay imo.
Someone has missed out on history. People do this crap to other people without blinking an eye.
As for my view on the situation? Don't give a crap. Thousands of babies are murdered every day. Thousands are starving to death in Africa. Thousands are dying of AIDs in Africa. Millions are living in abject poverty and despair. Dogs? Sorry, just don't give a crap. Would I rather it not happen, and they instead put them to sleep peacefully? Of course. Media going nuts over it? Fark them, seriously, there are far more relevant issues to humanity than dogs dying.
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