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It's a pity but if he had the necessary skills that he claimed to have had, ie to be able to do a better job than John, live on air within a tiny window of time, I think he would have done a much better job at communicating to Tasteless about the job.
If he's this sensitive, can't confidently say a single sentence to someone in person then he would be a world out of depth on air.
It's such an ironic situation that it'd be strange not to find some way to make a joke out of it, from Tasteless pov. Questionable choice to do it on air however, but fair enough.
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This isn't that big of an issue as it's being made out to be. I can understand both sides of it.
John started out pretty bad with lots of awkward pauses and "ummm's" while he thought of how to translate things, but he has improved greatly and does a fine job. The first week or two it really seemed like he was just some guy with another job at GOM that was the only guy that knew English or something, but iirc by the end of season 2 they had made it clear translating was his full time job. Maybe the guy didn't get the memo or was blinded by hope for a better job... When it came time to talk to them he choked and made an ass of himself instead of politely asking if there were any job openings for translators. Props to him for admitting his mistakes and explaining himself.
From Tasteless/John's perspective some random guy came up and disrespected John and wanted to steal his job. Even if John's job wasn't translating and he was terrible, you would not go up to him and say "you suck, can I do it?" The incident was humorous from their perspective and Tasteless said it on air offhandedly warning others not to act like that when they meet the crew. It's not like he called the guy's name out to the world, to him it was just some anonymous guy that acted poorly and could have stayed anonymous.
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Well I could see where Tasteless was coming from, the guy was completely out of line..
However.
I have a feeling that the guy quoted in the OP may just be trolling and cooked up a story based on Tasteless' comments last night to get attention.
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Its pretty hilarious that ppl will immediately jump to defend and have sympathy for some random person that they have never met. I mean who knows if this guys is telling the truth or if his story is legit? I mean its def possible that it is, but why would like 90 percent of you WITHOUT QUESTION or HESITATION just immediately defend this guy and say hes right?
Guys its the internet after all who can be sure what is true about this dude. He might for real need a job and figures that if he posts a heart felt story on a public board he might get sympathy and then in turn get a job outta it.
After all he coulda sent a private letter to GOMTV instead of a nicely wrote post clearly showing off his English skills looking for a translation job perhaps?!
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
On January 03 2011 09:49 teamsolid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 09:33 TymerA wrote:On January 03 2011 09:27 teamsolid wrote: If the guy really felt so bad about it, why didn't he just send a private E-mail to gomtv, Tasteless, John, etc. Public post on the forums with sad life story just so people can feel sorry for him is not the way to make an apology. Perhaps he didn't quite think it trough. But i don't think he is trying to be an attention whore. Besides, all is love in the starcraft community. We must support each other, and reading this makes me think the guy really feels bad about it. I know he's being sincere and I feel sorry for him, but he starts off his "apology" letter with "I have an embarrassing story to tell everyone.". Why does he feel the need to tell everyone else his life story, when we weren't even involved at all? He only got everyone else into the picture with this forum post. His apology should have been strictly between him and Tasteless/John and gomtv.net. What he did was like apologizing for something you did, and then accidentally spilling your drink on the other guy. Like i said earlier in the thread, he probably wanted to get this whole thing off his chest. Unless you've made similar mistakes and caused huge misunderstandings like this, you can't know what it is like to carry something like that around by yourself. The only thing making it bearable is that no one else knows about it. That all changed when Nick made this public. Although he remained anonymous, it must've dredged up an emotional cocktail of embarrassment, guilt and frustration. So he decides to explain himself and get that load off. Can you blame him?
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when he said "what its like to be human" he is making a ironic point that the guy obviously htought he was better and would never make mistakes.... humans always make mistakes. Nothing harsh about that imo
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Oh well, everyone fucks up now and then, it's only natural, props to him for posting that though.
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On January 03 2011 09:58 Essentia wrote: Its pretty hilarious that ppl will immediately jump to defend and have sympathy for some random person that they have never met. I mean who knows if this guys is telling the truth or if his story is legit? I mean its def possible that it is, but why would like 90 percent of you WITHOUT QUESTION or HESITATION just immediately defend this guy and say hes right?
Guys its the internet after all who can be sure what is true about this dude. It might not even be the same guy but it doesn't really matter. Some guy made an ass out of himself, Tasteless warned others not to do the same, end of story.
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wtf. Acknowledging fault doesn't give you license to hate publicly. You messed up, there's other chances, life moves on... don't hate. Or hate, if you want, but realize that it makes you into what you appear desperately trying to avoid, (a hater), and live with that. You can't get both
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People hate Joe Buck, but Joe Buck doesn't talk about his critics on air. Be a professional.
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Noone is in the wrong everyone just acted appropriately given the information they had at the time.
Random dude looked like a dick because he made an assumption that John was doing this as a side job
Tasteless just assumed random dude was being a dick to John and told us a story about how some people could be judgemental
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On January 03 2011 10:01 phuzi0n wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 09:58 Essentia wrote: Its pretty hilarious that ppl will immediately jump to defend and have sympathy for some random person that they have never met. I mean who knows if this guys is telling the truth or if his story is legit? I mean its def possible that it is, but why would like 90 percent of you WITHOUT QUESTION or HESITATION just immediately defend this guy and say hes right?
Guys its the internet after all who can be sure what is true about this dude. It might not even be the same guy but it doesn't really matter. Some guy made an ass out of himself, Tasteless warned others not to do the same, end of story.
Yeah, I'm not srue what the big deal is. The guy put his foot in his mouth. In the future, he should do a bit more research when angling for a job.
Besides, why go to Tasteless for the job? As far as I know it's not his decision who gets hired or not.
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On January 03 2011 09:20 tdt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 09:13 Silidons wrote: you don't just walk up to someone and basically what you're saying is "i think you suck at your job and i can do it better so they should hire me", that's pretty damn disrespectful. An eye for an eye makes the world blind. but it also gets shit done which peace never will, sorry, that's the world we live in, welcome to it.
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Australia8532 Posts
I feel sorry for the guy I really do.. But making that post on the forum only makes it worse.. He was an anonymous indescript figure and now he has "come out of the wood work" for no other reason than to apologize which could be done privately.. I had even forgotten about the story when I woke up this morning, it was old news and now this just brought it up again..
Tasteless was telling a funny story about an anonymous person who came down to the Gom studio and asked to replace John; that is a fucking funny sounding story by any stretch of the imagination.. This guy going public has made it worse for himself.. I don't really think tasteless has done anything wrong..
This is almost worse than TSL_Rain's apology..
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On January 03 2011 10:16 bkrow wrote: I feel sorry for the guy I really do.. But making that post on the forum only makes it worse.. He was an anonymous indescript figure and now he has "come out of the wood work" for no other reason than to apologize which could be done privately.. I had even forgotten about the story when I woke up this morning, it was old news and now this just brought it up again..
Tasteless was telling a funny story about an anonymous person who came down to the Gom studio and asked to replace John; that is a fucking funny sounding story by any stretch of the imagination.. This guy going public has made it worse for himself.. I don't really think tasteless has done anything wrong..
This is almost worse than TSL_Rain's apology..
Maybe doing this gives him closure. What's wrong with that?
He is still an "anonymous indescript figure." We don't know his name or face; only the ID he used to post the message which was itself a smurf.
Everyone, just... chill.
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awww, atleast he tried... I think its like when you want to go out with a girl so bad for ages, and you think about it for longer than you should... then when the time you finally build up the corruage to ask her out and bam your mind goes blanke you say the worst possible thing to wreck your chances then hide away with your computer :D I'm sure a number of us have been there and done that ^^; you'll get over it eventually when your married.
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On January 03 2011 10:16 bkrow wrote: I feel sorry for the guy I really do.. But making that post on the forum only makes it worse.. He was an anonymous indescript figure and now he has "come out of the wood work" for no other reason than to apologize which could be done privately.. I had even forgotten about the story when I woke up this morning, it was old news and now this just brought it up again..
Tasteless was telling a funny story about an anonymous person who came down to the Gom studio and asked to replace John; that is a fucking funny sounding story by any stretch of the imagination.. This guy going public has made it worse for himself.. I don't really think tasteless has done anything wrong..
This is almost worse than TSL_Rain's apology..
I don't understand how it's funny to tell a story about someone and then say that they don't know what it's like to be human. Tasteless sure didn't sound like he was joking around.
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Tasteless was put off by the man's suggestion that John should be replaced. It was as simple as that.
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I don't think what the guy did was tactful. He should have been more indirect; asking to help out in translations in some area (there is the website, the show, e-mails, and all sorts of areas that require english) if they needed more people doing translation work. However, it also was not right to call the guy out on the broadcast. It was unnecessary and in poor taste to mock the guy on air. We all do things we regret, why publicly humiliate a man for a private matter?
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Its a bit douche to do what Tasteless did, but what I cant figure out, even tho I've read it 3 times now, is what it actually added to the quality of the cast ? Did he just randomly blert that out ? It even said "what I didn't get to say in the TvT". So... he basically sat the whole cast to try and find a breathing room for him to humiliate this guy on air ? It added nothing of value to the cast whatsoever.
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