EPTafter ending one of the streams after each game,
I can't find it, please help me :<
Power Rank 11/12/2010 - Page 11
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DracoVolantus
Poland231 Posts
after ending one of the streams after each game, I can't find it, please help me :< | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5572 Posts
On December 01 2010 08:41 DracoVolantus wrote: Difference between any S class players is paper thin. + Show Spoiler + Except Flash. Now when we know, that if Jd was allowed to play ace matches he would loose them like flash did. But Flash will now start winning ace matches no matter what. He is versus zerg conjurer, and versus protoss armourer and versus terran chessmaster. What are you talking about? There are a million ways of showing why flash is a good player. Ace games is not one of them. Plus your trolling about JD is uncalled for imo. | ||
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On December 02 2010 21:18 Harem wrote: http://www.playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=218383&extra=page=1 Why can't your power rank be as gosu as this, flamewheel?? LOL EFFORT I LITERALLY CHOKED ON MY DINNER + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.playsc.com/forum/data/attachment/album/201012/02/153835mme9yh4fm4dbzoym.jpg) Effort (Z) | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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DracoVolantus
Poland231 Posts
On December 05 2010 03:48 Elroi wrote: What are you talking about? There are a million ways of showing why flash is a good player. Ace games is not one of them. Plus your trolling about JD is uncalled for imo. Ace games are THE BEST way of showing why flash is the best player, especially when he looses them, people who won with Flash are not random horses. And I trolled about jaedong because I don't like his 'Flash is younger' and 'I won't 4pool because of fans' excuse. He is zerg god damn it, time of BoX'es is closer every day, he should stop whining, and start stopping godterran. And this is what I'd like to see on #1 place PR this month: + Show Spoiler + On November 06 2010 03:21 Hinanawi wrote: Flash's first OSL win back in Bacchus 2008 was what set everyone crazy about Flash (myself included), thinking he would turn on bonjwa mode immediately and just dominate everything. Unfortunately, what actually ended up happening was that although he was still the best Terran player, he just couldn't win the games that really mattered, even though his overall winrate was still crazy and up there with Jaedong/Bisu. Then October of 2009 happened. Flash decided he was done with losing TvZ, and his razor-edge unorthodox timing M&M early aggression threw Zergs everywhere off-balance. Other Terrans tried to copy it but couldn't without Flash's amazing game sense and control, Zergs tried to practice against it but couldn't, because their practice partners can't pull it off. Around the same time, Flash also stopped losing TvTs and started his 22-game TvT win streak. Flash began to be widely acknowledged by Jan 2010 as basically unbeatable TvZ and TvT, but his TvP remained suspect. It was really painful seeing him lose important games to Protoss players who would just out-expand and run him over with arbiters or templar. The last piece of the puzzle fell into place a little bit later, when Flash decided that being invincible in 2 matchups wasn't good enough and that he was going to stop losing to Protoss as well. He just started crushing Ps before they could even get arbiters, with amazing timing pushes that forced them to stop playing greedy and start fearing early aggression. Teams would throw their best Protoss at him and he would just snap their necks before the 10 minute mark. Of course since then he's hit some bumps along the road and come back down to earth a little, but that's basically the story of it. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5572 Posts
On December 05 2010 16:13 DracoVolantus wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 05 2010 03:48 Elroi wrote: What are you talking about? There are a million ways of showing why flash is a good player. Ace games is not one of them. Plus your trolling about JD is uncalled for imo. Ace games are THE BEST way of showing why flash is the best player, especially when he looses them, people who won with Flash are not random horses. And I trolled about jaedong because I don't like his 'Flash is younger' and 'I won't 4pool because of fans' excuse. He is zerg god damn it, time of BoX'es is closer every day, he should stop whining, and start stopping godterran. And this is what I'd like to see on #1 place PR this month: + Show Spoiler + On November 06 2010 03:21 Hinanawi wrote: Flash's first OSL win back in Bacchus 2008 was what set everyone crazy about Flash (myself included), thinking he would turn on bonjwa mode immediately and just dominate everything. Unfortunately, what actually ended up happening was that although he was still the best Terran player, he just couldn't win the games that really mattered, even though his overall winrate was still crazy and up there with Jaedong/Bisu. Then October of 2009 happened. Flash decided he was done with losing TvZ, and his razor-edge unorthodox timing M&M early aggression threw Zergs everywhere off-balance. Other Terrans tried to copy it but couldn't without Flash's amazing game sense and control, Zergs tried to practice against it but couldn't, because their practice partners can't pull it off. Around the same time, Flash also stopped losing TvTs and started his 22-game TvT win streak. Flash began to be widely acknowledged by Jan 2010 as basically unbeatable TvZ and TvT, but his TvP remained suspect. It was really painful seeing him lose important games to Protoss players who would just out-expand and run him over with arbiters or templar. The last piece of the puzzle fell into place a little bit later, when Flash decided that being invincible in 2 matchups wasn't good enough and that he was going to stop losing to Protoss as well. He just started crushing Ps before they could even get arbiters, with amazing timing pushes that forced them to stop playing greedy and start fearing early aggression. Teams would throw their best Protoss at him and he would just snap their necks before the 10 minute mark. Of course since then he's hit some bumps along the road and come back down to earth a little, but that's basically the story of it. I dont't understand what you are trying to say. How is Flash losing most of his ace games a good indicator of his superiority? (No, I'm not saying that he isn't the best player.) And when has Jaedong ever said such things? | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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bentnormal
112 Posts
 On November 27 2010 20:25 flamewheel wrote: Also: for transparency's sake, the next PR will probably be coming out mid-December, after I finish finals. | ||
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DracoVolantus
Poland231 Posts
On December 05 2010 21:17 Elroi wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 05 2010 16:13 DracoVolantus wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 05 2010 03:48 Elroi wrote: What are you talking about? There are a million ways of showing why flash is a good player. Ace games is not one of them. Plus your trolling about JD is uncalled for imo. Ace games are THE BEST way of showing why flash is the best player, especially when he looses them, people who won with Flash are not random horses. And I trolled about jaedong because I don't like his 'Flash is younger' and 'I won't 4pool because of fans' excuse. He is zerg god damn it, time of BoX'es is closer every day, he should stop whining, and start stopping godterran. And this is what I'd like to see on #1 place PR this month: + Show Spoiler + On November 06 2010 03:21 Hinanawi wrote: Flash's first OSL win back in Bacchus 2008 was what set everyone crazy about Flash (myself included), thinking he would turn on bonjwa mode immediately and just dominate everything. Unfortunately, what actually ended up happening was that although he was still the best Terran player, he just couldn't win the games that really mattered, even though his overall winrate was still crazy and up there with Jaedong/Bisu. Then October of 2009 happened. Flash decided he was done with losing TvZ, and his razor-edge unorthodox timing M&M early aggression threw Zergs everywhere off-balance. Other Terrans tried to copy it but couldn't without Flash's amazing game sense and control, Zergs tried to practice against it but couldn't, because their practice partners can't pull it off. Around the same time, Flash also stopped losing TvTs and started his 22-game TvT win streak. Flash began to be widely acknowledged by Jan 2010 as basically unbeatable TvZ and TvT, but his TvP remained suspect. It was really painful seeing him lose important games to Protoss players who would just out-expand and run him over with arbiters or templar. The last piece of the puzzle fell into place a little bit later, when Flash decided that being invincible in 2 matchups wasn't good enough and that he was going to stop losing to Protoss as well. He just started crushing Ps before they could even get arbiters, with amazing timing pushes that forced them to stop playing greedy and start fearing early aggression. Teams would throw their best Protoss at him and he would just snap their necks before the 10 minute mark. Of course since then he's hit some bumps along the road and come back down to earth a little, but that's basically the story of it. I dont't understand what you are trying to say. How is Flash losing most of his ace games a good indicator of his superiority? (No, I'm not saying that he isn't the best player.) And when has Jaedong ever said such things? These games shows how much is needed to be done, how many mistakes from godterran and his game control it requires to take him down. And Jaedong. Here are both quotes: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=158024 | ||
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dani_caliKorea
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fIamewheel
177 Posts
On December 06 2010 11:17 dani_caliKorea wrote: I wonder how high Shine will be. Hes on a beast streak. I'm guessing Kal, Free for #4 and 5? Free's problem is even though he's doing quite well, he hasn't beaten any of his "tougher" opponents, such as Sea, Light, and BeSt. His wins come mostly from players that are either mediocre or not doing so well, and HiyA, HoGiL, Reality, Cuteangel, Perfectman, Tempest, Hydra (who he then lost the subsequent Ace match to), Grape, Mind, and ggaemo all fit the category. Yes, racking up a lot of wins is impressive, but it's not going to be enough to get Free a rank as high as 5. We'll have to see how he compares to everybody else to see if he even really makes it onto PR. Same with Shine. | ||
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_romantic
United States455 Posts
On December 06 2010 12:38 fIamewheel wrote: Free's problem is even though he's doing quite well, he hasn't beaten any of his "tougher" opponents, such as Sea, Light, and BeSt. His wins come mostly from players that are either mediocre or not doing so well, and HiyA, HoGiL, Reality, Cuteangel, Perfectman, Tempest, Hydra (who he then lost the subsequent Ace match to), Grape, Mind, and ggaemo all fit the category. Yes, racking up a lot of wins is impressive, but it's not going to be enough to get Free a rank as high as 5. We'll have to see how he compares to everybody else to see if he even really makes it onto PR. Same with Shine. Are you saying Shine's 2:0 of Bisu is not beating a "tougher" opponent? | ||
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fIamewheel
177 Posts
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dogabutila
United States1437 Posts
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
If he loses his next TvZ though, he'll probably lose like 5 wins worth of Elo at that level. Let's hope he gets to play a Zerg against MBC tonight. | ||
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
On December 07 2010 06:22 Hinanawi wrote: Let's hope he gets to play a Zerg against MBC tonight. And loses, yes, I'm completely with you there! | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On December 07 2010 07:13 Cpadolf wrote: And loses, yes, I'm completely with you there! For Flash to lose to an MBC Zerg. 1) HyuN (5-6, 0-2 vs Terran) rediscovers whatever let him beat Flash in ace last year. 2) Saint pulls a stunner because he's Saint. 3) First day of play for some unknown rookie phenom. 4) 6 pool. 5) Sea off-races. | ||
swanized
Canada2480 Posts
On December 07 2010 08:08 Musoeun wrote: For Flash to lose to an MBC Zerg. 1) HyuN (5-6, 0-2 vs Terran) rediscovers whatever let him beat Flash in ace last year. 2) Saint pulls a stunner because he's Saint. 3) First day of play for some unknown rookie phenom. 4) 6 pool. 5) Sea off-races. activate your flame shields man | ||
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DracoVolantus
Poland231 Posts
Hyun changed the way Flash plays his vZ a little bit, he would need a miracle to pull something similar again. Sea is 0-6 vs Flash and it is hard to see it changing soon O.o | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On December 07 2010 13:49 DracoVolantus wrote: 6 pool won't even scratch our little godterran. Hyun changed the way Flash plays his vZ a little bit, he would need a miracle to pull something similar again. Sea is 0-6 vs Flash and it is hard to see it changing soon O.o Hyun didn't change anything. Flash forgot one turret on a map where, if you forget that turret in that spot, you lose to 2hatch muta harass. Just kind of happened, and Hyun was slightly competent enough to not lose to the 2 groups of marines Flash pumped out. | ||
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