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On October 28 2010 22:10 Corrik wrote:
It clearly looked like a bitch slap gesture or a swatting of a fly gesture. I wouldn't say it was BM exactly as I don't know if he did it in a way Idra could see it, but I don't see how it was a gesture out of happiness either.
maybe he is throwing his arm to his team meaning YEAHHH I DID IT BIATCH!!!
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On October 28 2010 22:13 Sqq wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 22:10 kirkybaby wrote:wow. this is lol of the week. rattle people? watch the video again and look at his face. it was body language for "that's right bitch" Of course hes happy about winning, but swinging your arm like that is a normal gesture when you beat someone.
That's true whenever I beat my friends in games, it's what I do to rub it in and let em know who the king is. So it's pretty clear Zenio is the mack daddy today, and Idra is his finest trick who needs to hand over daddies money or he'll get a learnin' that's for sho  .
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On October 28 2010 22:13 Sqq wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 22:10 kirkybaby wrote:wow. this is lol of the week. rattle people? watch the video again and look at his face. it was body language for "that's right bitch" Of course hes happy about winning, but swinging your arm like that is a normal gesture when you beat someone.
who cares? let's just all pretend he was giving him the pimp-hand to make it dramatic and entertaining. he didn't do it to tlo or a nice guy like maka. it's idra, the dude who made fun of werra having a molestation scandal
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If NEXGenius beats Inca he'll take the tournament.
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On October 28 2010 22:15 noD wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 22:14 Surykatek wrote:
Anyone happy that Idra lost or i am alone? It was so funny when that orange-haired kor showed his happiness after beating KingOfBm. I am, idra is good, but not korea-good ...
And yet he made the RO16 beating Koreans to get there. What exactly is korea-good to you?
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it was clearly bm, but who cares? does anyone deserve it more than idra?
and also, like this is the first time a winner gloated a little in the history of competition? jesus.
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I actually really liked Artosis' build on delta quadrant, I feel had Idra actually blocked his ramp he'd have held that. I think investing in another hatch or more spine crawlers and teching to lair and spire faster would be a good plan, you are already up a base on your opponent. I mean he got 3 spines against Huk on steppes to stop his push, why would you only get 1 vs a similarly timed push?
Obviously i'm no pro but just my observation, going for the 3rd in that instance seemed greedy. All those extra minerals could have gone to crawlers.
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On October 28 2010 22:10 Sniffy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 22:06 oZii wrote:On October 28 2010 22:01 Valikyr wrote:On October 28 2010 21:58 Weavel wrote:
Better player won. It's sad, but true. Better player? No Better ZvZ'er? Yes He deserved his win obviously but I'm confident IdrA's ZvT and ZvP is stronger than Zenio's. Zenio is on to round of 8 farther than idrA better player? yes as of this moment why? because he advanced farther <-- Fact regardless of strategy standard game or what have you he won and thats what matters. People keep forgetting its bo3 which means its more skill than luck. By that logic, Fruitdealer isn't even one of the best 16 players in the world. One tournament means nothing.
Then what means 2 tournaments? Grack lost both, and early.
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On October 28 2010 22:16 SKtheAnathema wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 22:13 Sqq wrote:On October 28 2010 22:10 kirkybaby wrote:wow. this is lol of the week. rattle people? watch the video again and look at his face. it was body language for "that's right bitch" Of course hes happy about winning, but swinging your arm like that is a normal gesture when you beat someone. who cares? let's just all pretend he was giving him the pimp-hand to make it dramatic and entertaining. he didn't do it to tlo or a nice guy like maka. it's idra, the dude who made fun of werra having a molestation scandal
The fun was there, he didn´t have to make it.
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The problem with Idra is that he is TOO PREDICTABLE. He is not adaptive enough to any situation and that showed clearly in his two GSL season appearances, more so the case here. Who would have expected Zenio to outsmart him with the Contaminate strategy in Game 1? Idra lost all the mind games badly.
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The only way I'll be happy now, is if the Zenio goes on to win GSL 2.
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yer man i watch soocer grandfinals and when a team won.. they never got excited... just shook the opponents hand and left the field.... YEAHHH RIGHT!!!!
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On October 28 2010 22:14 ryanAnger wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 22:09 Durp wrote:
I highly doubt anyone IdrA runs into on the korean ladder is a scrub.
Idra had said when he played with cj entus that it was really difficult on a korean pro team to practice in house because he can't communicate strats/ideas with his teamates. Also I believe he joined an NA clan (eg) to try to win the GSL for an american team, opening up more doors for the foreign scene. You realize that Team Liquid is an English-speaking Team? Maybe not entirely American, but I could see no harm in him practicing with the TL members and oGs. And it doesn't really matter about EG, because the only person I see right now qualifying for GSL (no offense to the others) is incontrol, and I don't know how far he would get.
Like TL-oGs would help Idra practice so he can beat an oGs player
yeah right
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On October 28 2010 22:13 Corrupted wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 22:10 oZii wrote:On October 28 2010 22:09 Corrupted wrote:On October 28 2010 22:06 oZii wrote:On October 28 2010 22:01 Valikyr wrote:On October 28 2010 21:58 Weavel wrote:
Better player won. It's sad, but true. Better player? No Better ZvZ'er? Yes He deserved his win obviously but I'm confident IdrA's ZvT and ZvP is stronger than Zenio's. Zenio is on to round of 8 farther than idrA better player? yes as of this moment why? because he advanced farther <-- Fact regardless of strategy standard game or what have you he won and thats what matters. People keep forgetting its bo3 which means its more skill than luck. Lol...winning a bo3 or going further in a tournament does not make you a better player, as hard as that may be for you to understand. Zenio may be better, but none of the reasons you listed have anything to do with it. Well give me reasons why he is not a better player? I'm not saying he is or isn't a better player...I'm saying a single bo3 mirror matchup and going further in a single tournament is a horrible way to determine who's better. Surely you don't think everyone in the final 16 is better than FruitDealer...do you? There is a wealth of information outside his last game and his last tournament to support the fact that he is still one of the best players in the world. This is like people saying the guy who won the WSOP is the best poker player in the world.
At this moment! I don't understand why your taking what I said out of context. It is also pretty much standard opinion that Korea is where the best play. Yes there are scrubs playing GSL doing crazy stuff that never works and getting rolled by great players. I was responding to someone else saying that zenio is not the better player. Also as much as I love the NA scene of Starcraft 2 Korea is where its at its also where all pro players either dream of going or would like to go to compete for GSL. MLG is great its the big NA tournament but were are talking about GSL here.
To answer about Fruitdealer no they aren't better than fruitdealer because none of them have won GSL whoever wins this GSL will be on Par with fruitdealer.
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On October 28 2010 22:10 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
Idra needs to get more creative. He keeps getting on the receiving end of random builds cooked up more or less on the spot to beat him. Super respect for getting so far, and I would have given blood to see him make the RO8 and achieve that vaunted S class, but that tag comes with a requirement- and that is to not be a robot in a land of robots.
Super control macro does fine in a game that's been worked out for 10 years, but in a game where new builds are literally coming out every day, you have to be creative and adaptive as well to truly excel.
I think your statement holds a lot of weight. Too many players are trying to force others to play their style instead of trying to adapt to the new strategies people are coming up with. This happened with Ensnare today as well as fruitdealer yesterday. Idra did try something new today using Artosis' build but lack of practice and some mistakes ended up costing him.
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On October 28 2010 22:15 noD wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 22:14 Surykatek wrote:
Anyone happy that Idra lost or i am alone? It was so funny when that orange-haired kor showed his happiness after beating KingOfBm. I am, idra is good, but not korea-good ...
So much ignorance in one sentence......
You know that when you got 61 koreans and 3 foreigners, in a game so new that a more-skill player will not always win due to luck and build orders, the chance for a foreigner to make it far is low?
Take 32 koreans and 32 foreigners and do you think the round of 32 will be 30 koreans + idra/loner?
Your inflating their skill levels, only a few of them are top-of-the-line.
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On October 28 2010 22:16 Sniffy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 22:15 noD wrote:On October 28 2010 22:14 Surykatek wrote:
Anyone happy that Idra lost or i am alone? It was so funny when that orange-haired kor showed his happiness after beating KingOfBm. I am, idra is good, but not korea-good ... And yet he made the RO16 beating Koreans to get there. What exactly is korea-good to you?
Someone who can actually win Korean tournaments lol
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On October 28 2010 22:17 cocoa_sg wrote:
The problem with Idra is that he is TOO PREDICTABLE. He is not adaptive enough to any situation and that showed clearly in his two GSL season appearances, more so the case here. Who would have expected Zenio to outsmart him with the Contaminate strategy in Game 1? Idra lost all the mind games badly.
mechanics beats creative play, and he can mix up games, seen that past in sc1 now and then, he did 5 roach rush vs terran it failed but whatever XD
thing is that each time you do something non mechanics, you take risk, since you have practiced it so much.
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On October 28 2010 21:56 coddan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 21:55 JinDesu wrote:On October 28 2010 21:55 Sewi wrote:
Zenio with some bm there. He looks so happy. Must be a hugh pressure for Koreans playing against foreigners BM? Did I miss something there? Being happy - the new BM
Idra himself said it was good to see reactions from winning korean players and not just straight faced after winning when he was casting with Jason Lee.
Maybe Zenio remembered that?
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On October 28 2010 22:17 cocoa_sg wrote:
The problem with Idra is that he is TOO PREDICTABLE. He is not adaptive enough to any situation and that showed clearly in his two GSL season appearances, more so the case here. Who would have expected Zenio to outsmart him with the Contaminate strategy in Game 1? Idra lost all the mind games badly.
thats why people within a team have a great advantages. It was mostly due to this that I was 99.99% sure Idra gonna lose. Ogs vs Idra its obviously whos gonna win. And Im not even talking about practice partners here.
I really wonder what Egs plans are in Korea a 1-Man team ?  . Well lets wait for the big announcement by Incontrol
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