EPTThere's a reason every zerg hates playing zvz and has since beta. It's either a build order coin flip or a baneling micro mess.
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greycubed
United States615 Posts
There's a reason every zerg hates playing zvz and has since beta. It's either a build order coin flip or a baneling micro mess. | ||
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Aquafresh
United States824 Posts
On October 28 2010 22:04 Siffer wrote: No offense to the EG guys currently in NA, but they just wont cut it. Machine is nowhere near the level of people like zenio and FD. I am pretty sure he has even admitted it. You don't need to be playing people on the level of Cool and Zenio to get good practice for a ZvZ against them. You just need someone to play the strategies you want to prepare against, and execute them well. Someone like Machine is more than capable of doing that. | ||
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Sniffy
Australia290 Posts
On October 28 2010 22:06 oZii wrote: Zenio is on to round of 8 farther than idrA better player? yes as of this moment why? because he advanced farther <-- Fact regardless of strategy standard game or what have you he won and thats what matters. People keep forgetting its bo3 which means its more skill than luck. By that logic, Fruitdealer isn't even one of the best 16 players in the world. One tournament means nothing. | ||
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
Super control macro does fine in a game that's been worked out for 10 years, but in a game where new builds are literally coming out every day, you have to be creative and adaptive as well to truly excel. | ||
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oZii
United States1198 Posts
On October 28 2010 22:09 Corrupted wrote: Lol...winning a bo3 or going further in a tournament does not make you a better player, as hard as that may be for you to understand. Zenio may be better, but none of the reasons you listed have anything to do with it. Well give me reasons why he is not a better player? | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On October 28 2010 22:08 Ozu wrote: "idra fans"? Unless you're slow, you should have understood by now that IdrA is far from popular in Korea. It was quite clear that Zenio was happy about being the one to send him packing. uh what I was talking about people on here | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On October 28 2010 22:07 reki- wrote: meh sad to see idra lose but i guess it's also the fact he doesn't really have good practice partners (for zvz atleast) I think he needs a real team. No offence to EG who he probably doesn't even practice with cause of lag, but they aren't on the same level as top koreans. He can't be getting builds from Artosis and having no one to practice with | ||
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Corrik
United States1416 Posts
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kirkybaby
Korea (South)781 Posts
On October 28 2010 22:09 Sqq wrote: Your trying to rattle people, and it looks like it kind of worked. Ever heard of fist pumping ? People often swing their arms in celebration, it has nothing to do with bitchslapping or anything. You need to get out more and stop browsing 4chan forums for your references wow. this is lol of the week. rattle people? watch the video again and look at his face. it was body language for "that's right bitch" | ||
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epik640x
United States1134 Posts
Idra impresses. 1st strat probably just caught him off-guard and then even more so at how effective it was. Investing into 3 overseers doesn't seem like a good idea but hey. 2nd game it was a bit of luck that Idra went lings for Zenio. It was a quick game but it could've been the other way around just as easily too. On such a long distance map going speedlings seems like a good idea. I think Idra will win season 4 gsl after owning face at all the mlg's in between. | ||
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LeibSaiLeib
173 Posts
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zzaaxxsscd
United States626 Posts
On October 28 2010 22:10 Aquafresh wrote: You don't need to be playing people on the level of Cool and Zenio to get good practice for a ZvZ against them. You just need someone to play the strategies you want to prepare against, and execute them well. Someone like Machine is more than capable of doing that. yeah until idra can consistently beat the NA and EU zergs (dimaga, ret, etc.), there's no way he's gonna be able to beat the KR zergs (I count Sen as KR zerg) | ||
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zomgad
185 Posts
On October 28 2010 22:01 Valikyr wrote: Better player? No Better ZvZ'er? Yes He deserved his win obviously but I'm confident IdrA's ZvT and ZvP is stronger than Zenio's. no offense but zenio had better unit controll and his macro judging after games vs mvp is also very impressive. | ||
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oZii
United States1198 Posts
On October 28 2010 22:10 Sniffy wrote: By that logic, Fruitdealer isn't even one of the best 16 players in the world. One tournament means nothing. let me bold you as of this moment zenio is a better player than idrA i said nothing about previous GSL or on saturday for that matter. When that match was over he is the better player because he won. Ever heard NFL coaches say today they were the better team? | ||
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Lowkin
Canada232 Posts
On October 28 2010 22:09 wrgrbl wrote: Anyone else notice it's only people with T and P avatars who are saying Idra got outplayed badly? There's a reason every zerg hates playing zvz and has since beta. It's either a build order coin flip or a baneling micro mess. Curious as to what your rank and points are, Because I play Zerg and Its rarely ever comes down to baneling micro except in late game when you can do baneling drops onto hydras to rape there hydra numbers. Baneling builds are wrecked by Roaches, I crush it over and over again noone uses it anymore in ZvZ cause its awful. | ||
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Jaxx
Slovakia758 Posts
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kindle139
United States128 Posts
On October 28 2010 22:05 Lann555 wrote: What the hell is 'pimp hand' even supposed to be? it's something you do to your bitches... | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
On October 28 2010 22:04 Kraznaya wrote: Idra beat terran scrubs to get here Zenio beat MVP Gotta agree with this. Idra is an amazing player compared to other non-Koreans, but I think Artosis and co. definitely inflate his skill compared to the Korean guys. From every match I've seen in this tournament Zenio has looked like the better player. | ||
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