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With the approval of Plexa i have decided to make this thread after my faithful encounter with one of these horrible creatures earlier. I present to you the TL Hacker Database!!
Basically, here you upload reps to any site where you can download stuff off of obviously, and then use this format:
Format:
Realm : North America
Your name : Ig0tHacked
Hacker Name : id0n7h4ck
Replay : replay.replay(whatever format sc2 uses..)
Description :
Well i was sitting there not making observers but he never scouted that and he flys in his cloaked banshees and im just like lol wtf? and my DT tech is completely useless, and i never heard a scan or anything!!! he didnt even know where i was
Obvious things to note :
Makes a nydus worm without vision
scans my DT's without them even attacking
After watching the replay i found him to be staring at my base for prolonged amounts of time..
After this members can obviously download the replay and watch and usually if they are hacking its pretttty obvious what they are. they will then be added.
RULES / WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN YOUR REPLAYS(Subject to change)
On October 27 2010 05:51 aidnai wrote:
1) drophacks are not really provable based on one game (need a match history showing 100% win ratio, multiple dropped games, all games under 6 minutes, or something similar)
2) replay is required
3) character code is required
If you want this complaint to be taken seriously, you need to fix all three.
Aye aye, cap'n. (actually it was zomgtossrush that suggested a list of what not to submit, I think it should be obvious, but w/e).
Good evidence for hacks (post replays that show things on this list):
Weak evidence for hacks (i.e. not enough evidence by themselves):
Not evidence for hacks:
(I'm not trying to piss you off by using you as an example, zomgtossrush, I just want to make it explicit that the sort of thing you used for those replays is not even weak evidence of hacks).
If your replay doesn't contain some hard evidence, don't start slandering the player who beat you. Even if a replay contained every single piece of 'weak' evidence I listed, I wouldn't consider that to be enough evidence to put the player on the confirmed hacker list. Suspicious, yes, but not confirmable. (maybe with multiple replays..dunno)
The point of this thread is not to discuss what is and what isn't evidence of hacking, so please don't start replying to this with your own ideas. If Arb or any mods have a problem with my standards for evidence, I will be happy to change this list (I'm just a random guy afterall). If anyone else has a issue, PM me and I'll consider what you say. Lets keep this thread for its original purpose--reporting hackers.
1) drophacks are not really provable based on one game (need a match history showing 100% win ratio, multiple dropped games, all games under 6 minutes, or something similar)
2) replay is required
3) character code is required
If you want this complaint to be taken seriously, you need to fix all three.
Aye aye, cap'n. (actually it was zomgtossrush that suggested a list of what not to submit, I think it should be obvious, but w/e).
Good evidence for hacks (post replays that show things on this list):
- Repeated camera focus on the enemy (your) base when it is under fog, without giving unit orders (attack/move)
- Repeated camera focus on your army outside your base, but under fog, especially without giving unit orders. This doesn't mean your opponent sending a marine to a XN watchtower when you have a probe there is hacks though.
- Camera focus on dropships/ovies/warp prisms or any unit in an unusual location on the map for no when it is under fog and there is no reason to look there.
- Reactions to the army when it is under fog (this one is tricky though, as there is often a decent excuse for the hacker's army movement, for example, moving to take a XN tower, moving to secure a third, moving to threaten an expo, positioning the army better, etc. For this to be solid evidence, there should be no obvious goal for the army movement other than a reaction to what is seen via maphack.)
Weak evidence for hacks (i.e. not enough evidence by themselves):
- Proxying the correct location without scouting.
- Anticipating drops/muta timing/DT's/VR's/backstabs etc. Some people just take these things into account in their normal build order.
- Unit composition/blind counters. It could very easily be dumb luck that your opponent went VR's without scouting when you went pure marauder. Or whatever.
- One or two glances at your main under fog. Everyone does this normally (at least I do), to remember what building they scouted, or to send a scout, or to feel more confident about the map/walloff position/whatever. If you're on a 4 player map and your opponent only looks at your main (before scouting), then that's evidence, but occasionally glancing can be normal too.
Not evidence for hacks:
- Losing to someone with lower APM
- Getting dropped by b.net when you were winning
- Perfect timing with a push. A hallmark of high level play is well timed pushes, catching you when you are teching or expanding and are vulnerable. By itself this is not evidence.
- Your opponent failing to react to what he scouts
- Your opponent does something that seems to not make sense
(I'm not trying to piss you off by using you as an example, zomgtossrush, I just want to make it explicit that the sort of thing you used for those replays is not even weak evidence of hacks).
If your replay doesn't contain some hard evidence, don't start slandering the player who beat you. Even if a replay contained every single piece of 'weak' evidence I listed, I wouldn't consider that to be enough evidence to put the player on the confirmed hacker list. Suspicious, yes, but not confirmable. (maybe with multiple replays..dunno)
The point of this thread is not to discuss what is and what isn't evidence of hacking, so please don't start replying to this with your own ideas. If Arb or any mods have a problem with my standards for evidence, I will be happy to change this list (I'm just a random guy afterall). If anyone else has a issue, PM me and I'll consider what you say. Lets keep this thread for its original purpose--reporting hackers.
List of Known/confirmed Hackers
North America
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : Gtoo
Replay : http://www.replayladder.com/site/download/745
:Basically constantly looking at the other guys base without vision, stopping things without knowing they were coming, defending shit he never even scouted..
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : EvilAcolyte
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/75870-1v1-protoss-zerg-xelnaga-caverns
:Nydus worm without vision should speak for itself, however the usual no drone scout constant looking at fog of war..
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : GearBox
Replay : http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=147598
:basically constant staring at the fog of war, built barracks in the natural of his opponent without even scouting him first
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : Phenomena.808
Replay : http://www.dtguilds.com/luxx/Phenomena.SC2Replay
:Never scouted initially, but looks at my natural expansion before attacking. Notices scouting units, and moves units preemptively to kill them. Looks at my bases various times without sending unit commands.
[CONFIRMED]
Hacker Name :HOB
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/77309-1v1-zerg-lost-temple
:definite maphack from FPView + constant staring at FoW without scouting
[CONFIRMED]
Hacker Name: originalname
Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=148290
Description:
originalname uses maphacking so blatantly we notice it while playing the game
Obvious things to note :
- Microing his reapers in response to our high-ground maneuvers
- Repeated, quite long, views of our base to see tech
- Watching our troop movements
[CONFIRMED]
Hacker Name : Artanis
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/79694-1v1-terran-steppes-of-war
Description :I'd agree that Artanis is most likely map hacking, he frequently moves his camera to his opponent's base, before scouting it a single time (moving his camera a few times is understandable if he forgot which buildings he saw), but he also looks at his opponent's natural and choke quite frequently. (Never used a single scan, which might not matter, but points toward suspicion)
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : Ltqi
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/76904-1v1-protoss-zerg-xelnaga-caverns
Description : Constantly looking at my base and units through the fog of war. Unit movement to intercept units that were not yet visible. No scouting whatsoever. Even his first overlord ends up lost on the side of the map.
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name :Kravren
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/76875-2v2-terran-protoss-tarsonis-assault
Description :
My friend EdWreck and I were 2v2-ing Kravren and his partner when his partner DCs. Most of the match Kravren uses both armies to mass marines and try to push. He takes out an expo and proxy pylon very easily and upon inspection of the replay you see he looks at seemingly nothing on the map a lot or pans over our base a lot, especially mine since he never attacks me at all.
This one is really obvious, the banshee defense and the random a click to the hidden expo aswell ast he proxy pylon which he looks at at the start make this pretty obvious
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : DocHoliday
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/76462-1v1-terran-zerg-metalopolis
Description :
Alot of Fog of war staring in this replay, should be pretty obvious..
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: Cow
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/file/428fob14mmge0br/Cow Hacker.SC2Replay
Description:
Constantly looks at my empty base, never scouts. He even admits it to someone else who played him
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : iPwn and Pikachu
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/82796-2v2-terran-protoss-tarsonis-assault
Description : Random check of proxy spot, sends workers to attack the proxy which they didnt scout.., pretty obvious
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : Pure
Replay :http://vgcache.com/replays/4649 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10758013/purehacker.SC2Replay http://vgcache.com/replays/4649 http://www.battlereports.com/viewreplays.php?replaynum=33889
Description : Theresa lot of replays of him hacking in the thread, all come to the same conclusion that he is
[CONFIRMED]
Hacker Name : Tupac
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/82857-1v1-terran-protoss-lost-temple
Description :Rallys to other guys base without even scouting, checks his base etc.
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : Jaeger
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/86040-1v1-terran-scrap-station
Description : ..its pretty obvious
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : Jaggar
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/56275-2v2-terran-protoss-zerg-twilight-fortress
Description : Obviously maphacking. He looks through fog and never scouts. He follows around my scouting lings and calls out my partners Vikings w/o scout. lols @ him talking trash and still losing because he spammed Void Rays.
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : ssamjang.390
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/87293-1v1-terran-zerg-blistering-sands#rd:undefined;markup
Description : 5:18 a zergling scout comes out of the zerg nat, four marines stop shooting rocks and instantly a-move at the ling. They go back to the rocks, leaving no plausible reason for the foray (other than seeing the ling).
6:20 a ling scout moves out along a northern path. Marines which are moving towards the barracks rally point southerly again react without vision. The marines do not take a watchtower or do anything to justify having pulled them off the rally point.
[CONFIRMED]Hacker: ggmylife
Replay:http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/29/97013//Jungle%20Basin%20(10)suspect%20maphack.SC2Replay
Description:
Looks repeatedly at my base through the fog of war, never scouts the entire game. Follows my troop movements and where I'm expanding through the fog, and reacts appropriately.
Some key things:
At 6:53 he looks at lings going up the right side to kill the rocks, and at around 7:15 he sends guys to kill the lings at the rocks, but at 7:21 he looks at my roaches coming up the middle through the fog, and tells his guys to come back.
At 11:26, he moves his army to the middle of the map, probably to expand, but looks at my mutas through the fog, and moves his guys back to his natural to defend, even warping in stalkers at the natural without ever seeing the mutas.
At 11:37, he looks through the fog at where I just started my 3rd, and sends guys to kill it.
At 14:30, I try to take the 3rd again, and he looks at it through the fog and again sends guys to kill it.
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : Effort
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/105782-1v1-terran-lost-temple#c1
Description : 1v1 Lost Temple. Constant camera panning over my base, blind medivac drop onto island expo, no scouting, no scan.
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : PHAGGIO (his record was 6-0 and he was Platinum as of Nov 18, 2010)
Replay : http://www.battlereports.com/vegas/PHAGGIO_MapHacker.SC2Replay
Description :
Repeatedly "looks" at my units through the fog of war, most blatant was him sending 2 stalkers to kill an overseer out of his vision (he gets to my nydus just as start spawning it), and the VERY blatant clicking on the mini-map to look at my 2nd nydus worm that I had spawned in the middle of nowhere on Scrap Station.
Just watch his point of view starting at about 9:10, its obvious during the 1st attempted nydus, and the 2nd nydus (where he clicks on the nydus in the middle of nowhere in the fog of war).
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Names: Zeratul .839, Artanis .498
Replay : http://replayfu.com/r/K1fMkg
Description : At about 5:00, Purple moved the camera to the proxy pylon without vision. Teal also moved the camera at the fog of war where the proxy was at various times. At about 8:15, there was a ping to the stalkers about to move in without vision.
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : Bagelz
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?6n2aqv00n8h9b0o
Description : strange? overlord kills and blatantly obvious check of the opponents choke while doing an attack(he has units running out at this time)
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : Yaeg
Replay : http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=168202
Description : never once scouts, blindly attacks a hidden pylon, constant fog of war panning..
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Names : MagikStick .973, LannyBarbie .776
Replay : http://replayfu.com/r/XpGF5c
Description : constant fog of war looking
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : JSlippery
Replay : http://replayfu.com/download/4bPKR
Description : never scouts once, yet still manages to rally a warp prism to the correct base and warp in units with it!
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: zoooppe
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/116119-1v1-terran-zerg-scrap-station
Description : typical blind scouting(staring into fog of war)
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : ClubGlam
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/128537-1v1-terran-protoss-metalopolis http://replayfu.com/r/sSng8g and http://replayfu.com/r/HwjnGf
Description : people on sc2 replays calling hacks, zero scouting into blind proxy on a 4p map
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : Hailey
Replay : http://starcraft2reps.com/index.php?a=details&id=2514 http://replayfu.com/r/Dr4Tfj
Description : blind proxy on a 4p map with no scouting.
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : CryptiCChaos
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/131006-1v1-protoss-delta-quadrant
Description : blind proxy IN BASE without even scouting, pretty obvious
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: xeqtr
Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=185722#/replay_overview
Description : the usual fog of war staring, etc.
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name: SINSEL
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/142827-1v1-terran-zerg-lost-temple
Description : nydus worms with no vision, multiple times looking through fog
Europe
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : xitoxicNL
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/143917-1v1-protoss-lost-temple
Description : never scouts, constant looking through the fog
[CONFIRMED]
Hacker Name : Tsubasa
Replay : [url blocked]
Description :
Stares at fog of war randomly and all that, again pretty obvious
[CONFIRMED]
Hacker Name : Ugulup
Replay : http://rapidshare.com/files/426742425/cheater.SC2Replay
Description : 5:30 looking at base
13:12 looking at army in fog
16:00 finds the dropship
16:18 looks at MM force under fog
16:38 looking at MM again
18:36 looks at marine controlling XNT
several times from 16:00 to 20:00 looking at army at terran nat
20:30 inspects entire terran army/base
23:10 more inspection of the army/nat
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name :zionteck
Replay :http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=163817
Description :
Pretty obvious maphack usage,you dont have to watch the whole 33 minute game.
First funny moment is at 5:33 when he zooms in to check if my probe at the xel naga tower is feeling bored
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : PwndByLeAn
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/142436-3v3-terran-protoss-zerg-dig-site
Description :
he has maphack and i was with him and livemeteor in ts3. he said exactly what enemies where doing and that z is doing gold expo ind mid.
SEA
[CONFIRMED] Hacker: YuGusoG
Replay in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=151132
: Warped in immortals lolwut
[CONFIRMED]Hacker name: Allin
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/82900-1v1-terran-protoss-xelnaga-caverns
Description: Frequent looking at base through fog of war mainly, builds an observer but doesn't seem interested in poking around my base with it. Intercepts two instances of drops/harass without scouting it as well. Also picks units through the FoW
[CONFIRMED]Hacker Name : zealot
Replay : download at 4shared
Description :http://www.4shared.com/file/Y29n6x_4/20100923-09_PvP__l_.html
Blind proxy cannons, FoW staring, it was just pretty obvious along with zero scouting
Mod Warnings :
On September 09 2010 02:50 Plexa wrote:
If people fuck with this thread then they're taking a trip to disneyland
If people fuck with this thread then they're taking a trip to disneyland
On September 09 2010 02:32 JWD wrote:
Frivolous reports will be cause for warn/ban. Please keep this thread civil and reasonable people!
Thanks arb, this is a cool idea. Hope it works.
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Frivolous reports will be cause for warn/ban. Please keep this thread civil and reasonable people!
Thanks arb, this is a cool idea. Hope it works.
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Also, anyone who trys to start some stupid argument etc, will be reported and as said above most likely banned