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Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
September 08 2010 22:19 GMT
#21
Might a suggest a box of tissues for people who want to report BM?
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
September 08 2010 23:00 GMT
#22
Thanks for implementing this arb (and Plexa), should help keep track of stuff
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 08 2010 23:07 GMT
#23
Perhaps we can have people watch reps and give feedback? i obviously wont be able to do this all the time. So if any of you guys can watch them and then confirm/point stuff out for replays that would be a huge help

Thanks!
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27172 Posts
September 08 2010 23:10 GMT
#24
I think in order to be added to the first post, we need multiple people to watch the replay and give their opinions. Over time a team of those people who have good judgement can be formed as the arbiters (lol) of the thread.

In the end I don't think these threads serve much purpose, but it is nice to have a thread to send people to when they make their daily complaint in the SC2 section.

Maybe we can update how many of them get banned by Blizzard if they ever take action
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 23:20:19
September 08 2010 23:19 GMT
#25
On September 09 2010 08:10 Manifesto7 wrote:
I think in order to be added to the first post, we need multiple people to watch the replay and give their opinions. Over time a team of those people who have good judgement can be formed as the arbiters (lol) of the thread.

In the end I don't think these threads serve much purpose, but it is nice to have a thread to send people to when they make their daily complaint in the SC2 section.

Maybe we can update how many of them get banned by Blizzard if they ever take action

Well i watched 2 of the reps posted, my thoughts are
Gtoo/EvilAcolyte 100% hacks, Gtoo pretty obvious, i didnt even need to finish watching the game to see that, constant looking at his base making bunkers for things he didnt scout, etc.

Acolyte actually did some scouting with his ovie, but the nydus worm was a dead giveaway, aswell as after eh constantly looked at the other guys base just randomly staring at it for liek 10 seconds at a time.

Yes perhaps a group of people to look at the reps would be nice, ill most def be one.
EDIT : id like to hope with this supposed to be the next competitive game they decide to take action and ban all this trash, not doign so is just ugh.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
September 08 2010 23:37 GMT
#26
On September 09 2010 02:50 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 02:30 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Theres gonna be so much false reporting here I bet, if the example description is "he built turrets for something he didn't scout" lol.

If people fuck with this thread then they're taking a trip to disneyland


Lol yeah, I mean I understand when people randomly stare at fog of war or zoom around bases and naturals or bring a 150 army directly to a hidden expo, or scan on top of an obs/dt that wasn't even on the screen, thats all understandable I just think, and hope, that the OP's example might update so that it doesn't have missile turret built lol, I always build a missile turret TvZ after a certain period of time during my reaper harass because I know a spire will be going up, its just standard.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 08 2010 23:42 GMT
#27
On September 09 2010 08:37 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 02:50 Plexa wrote:
On September 09 2010 02:30 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Theres gonna be so much false reporting here I bet, if the example description is "he built turrets for something he didn't scout" lol.

If people fuck with this thread then they're taking a trip to disneyland


Lol yeah, I mean I understand when people randomly stare at fog of war or zoom around bases and naturals or bring a 150 army directly to a hidden expo, or scan on top of an obs/dt that wasn't even on the screen, thats all understandable I just think, and hope, that the OP's example might update so that it doesn't have missile turret built lol, I always build a missile turret TvZ after a certain period of time during my reaper harass because I know a spire will be going up, its just standard.

Ive seen star sense or just pure luck with the missile turret, i changed it to use your examples.

I hope thats better :D
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
September 08 2010 23:58 GMT
#28
Day9's had multiple dailys on knowing the timings of zergs getting out their mutas on certain builds, you don't necessarily need to scout something to act with caution, but thanks for the inpute :D hope this database works out well
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
September 09 2010 02:50 GMT
#29
Shouldn't this thread also include information on how to report hackers to Blizzard?

Haven't played a hacker, but find it interesting so looked around and in this thread the original post was edited by a mod to say
*Please report any possible cheats or hacks to hacks@blizzard.com so that they can be properly investigated. We do a thorough investigation before taking action which may sometimes take some time. Please refrain from posting these sorts of things on the forums. Thanks- Nethaera

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/627974617?page=1

Someone also made a thread on how to report hackers and other info to include with your report
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/628254375#2?page=1
DNT.Luxx
Profile Joined September 2010
United States11 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 03:09:30
September 09 2010 02:59 GMT
#30
Your name : Jalpesh
Hacker Name : Phenomena.808
Replay : http://www.dtguilds.com/luxx/Phenomena.SC2Replay

Description :
Never scouted initially, but looks at my natural expansion before attacking. Notices scouting units, and moves units preemptively to kill them. Looks at my bases various times without sending unit commands.

Obvious things to note :
3:50 - I sent a zergling to scout up his ramp, he noticed the zergling and moves his marine preemptively to attack it.
6:10 - Pans camera over my expansion. He had no knowledge of where my base was up to this point, but yet looked.
7:00 - I sent an overlord to scout his base from the west, he moves his marines north preemptively before he has vision of it.
10:40 - I sent an infestor to FG his idle army, he preemptively moves toward to attack.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
September 09 2010 02:59 GMT
#31
On September 09 2010 02:23 Bob300 wrote:
SEA
Victim: Optical
Hacker: YuGusoG
Replay in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=151132
i didn't get hacked by him.

Description: he warped in Immortals.
Lol

This is one of the funniest things I've seen.
KingPhilip
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2 Posts
September 09 2010 09:27 GMT
#32
Your name : KingPhilip
Hacker Name : GearBox
Replay : http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=147598
Description :
I am the protoss player KingPhilip playing against GearBox in a diamond league ladder match on Delta Quadrant. The problem that I faced was that he map hacked. He automatically sent his 7th scv to my natural and built a barracks in an attempt to marauder/bunker rush me. Although I could have handled the situation better, I was shocked that I was getting cheesed on a 4 player map so early and when he didn't scout me. I can go on and on about it, but I will let you peeps see for yourself the bs that I faced.

I played this match around 1:25 am PST, Gear box is ranked 7 on his division "FELD KILO" with 25 wins and 14 loses with 595 points.
Obvious things to note :
GearBox map hacks
He had no indication that I was at that area, but build a barracks at my natural
constantly looked at my main base even though there was a fog of war.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 09 2010 12:36 GMT
#33
New banner is up thanks to biomech!

Also thanks to whichever mod fixed up my terrible organization in the OP
:D
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 13:48:17
September 09 2010 13:36 GMT
#34
On September 09 2010 18:27 KingPhilip wrote:
Your name : KingPhilip
Hacker Name : GearBox
Replay : http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=147598
Description :
I am the protoss player KingPhilip playing against GearBox in a diamond league ladder match on Delta Quadrant. The problem that I faced was that he map hacked. He automatically sent his 7th scv to my natural and built a barracks in an attempt to marauder/bunker rush me. Although I could have handled the situation better, I was shocked that I was getting cheesed on a 4 player map so early and when he didn't scout me. I can go on and on about it, but I will let you peeps see for yourself the bs that I faced.

I played this match around 1:25 am PST, Gear box is ranked 7 on his division "FELD KILO" with 25 wins and 14 loses with 595 points.
Obvious things to note :
GearBox map hacks
He had no indication that I was at that area, but build a barracks at my natural
constantly looked at my main base even though there was a fog of war.


I've watched the replay and agree. Was skeptical that it was just lucky, but the dude spends 20% of his time just checking out P's base through the FoW. Very obvious maphack.

DNT.Lux wrote
Your name : Jalpesh
Hacker Name : Phenomena.808
Replay : http://www.dtguilds.com/luxx/Phenomena.SC2Replay

Description :
Never scouted initially, but looks at my natural expansion before attacking. Notices scouting units, and moves units preemptively to kill them. Looks at my bases various times without sending unit commands.

Obvious things to note :
3:50 - I sent a zergling to scout up his ramp, he noticed the zergling and moves his marine preemptively to attack it.
6:10 - Pans camera over my expansion. He had no knowledge of where my base was up to this point, but yet looked.
7:00 - I sent an overlord to scout his base from the west, he moves his marines north preemptively before he has vision of it.
10:40 - I sent an infestor to FG his idle army, he preemptively moves toward to attack.

Last edit: 2010-09-09 12:09:30


3:50 and 6:10 are totally negligible. First could've been as simple as repositioning for better depot coverage and 6:10 was so fleeting it's hard to consider it. The Overlord at 7:00 however was extremely suspicious, and his attack with zero scouting makes me certain this is a maphack. At first glance, I assumed he was simply moving out during the infestor snipe and got lucky. He did however move straight toward it through the FoW and proceeded to stay planted. Without a doubt to me however, his maphack is simply obivous from his attack with a complete lack of knowledge. I'd be careful to not cry wolf too hard over the small things like 3:50 and 6:10
#1 Eric Marienthal fanboy. Dropped engineering for this >.<
qppa
Profile Joined July 2009
Poland66 Posts
September 09 2010 13:55 GMT
#35
not expecting a reply since i dont want to start an argument but i think it should be called cheaters database not hacker but whatever
For Adun!
snpnx
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany454 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 14:02:50
September 09 2010 13:58 GMT
#36
I'm not here to report anything, but keep in mind that the character code might be a good addition to the name of the hacker cheater (the guy above me is right, people use "hacker" very wrongly nowadays). Otherwise if someone with a more common name hacks, maybe he fellow same-named guys will get heat without even knowing why because someone saw the name here.
"Language is Freeware, in that it's free to use, but it's not Open Source, so you can't just change things how you like."
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 14:10:54
September 09 2010 14:01 GMT
#37
On September 09 2010 11:59 DNT.Luxx wrote:
Your name : Jalpesh
Hacker Name : Phenomena.808
Replay : http://www.dtguilds.com/luxx/Phenomena.SC2Replay

Description :
Never scouted initially, but looks at my natural expansion before attacking. Notices scouting units, and moves units preemptively to kill them. Looks at my bases various times without sending unit commands.

Obvious things to note :
3:50 - I sent a zergling to scout up his ramp, he noticed the zergling and moves his marine preemptively to attack it.
6:10 - Pans camera over my expansion. He had no knowledge of where my base was up to this point, but yet looked.
7:00 - I sent an overlord to scout his base from the west, he moves his marines north preemptively before he has vision of it.
10:40 - I sent an infestor to FG his idle army, he preemptively moves toward to attack.


I completely agree that phenomena.808 is in fact map hacking there are several incriminating points throughout the replay, but none more so than at 3:50 when he looks at complete fog on his map which happened to be directly over a single enemy zergling. he then quickly adjusts his marine's positioning to better deal with the incoming lone zergling.

edit:
On September 09 2010 22:36 spydR wrote:


Show nested quote +
DNT.Lux wrote
Your name : Jalpesh
Hacker Name : Phenomena.808
Replay : http://www.dtguilds.com/luxx/Phenomena.SC2Replay

Description :
Never scouted initially, but looks at my natural expansion before attacking. Notices scouting units, and moves units preemptively to kill them. Looks at my bases various times without sending unit commands.

Obvious things to note :
3:50 - I sent a zergling to scout up his ramp, he noticed the zergling and moves his marine preemptively to attack it.
6:10 - Pans camera over my expansion. He had no knowledge of where my base was up to this point, but yet looked.
7:00 - I sent an overlord to scout his base from the west, he moves his marines north preemptively before he has vision of it.
10:40 - I sent an infestor to FG his idle army, he preemptively moves toward to attack.

Last edit: 2010-09-09 12:09:30


3:50 and 6:10 are totally negligible.


6:10 is negligible, but if you have the fp view on at more or less 3:55, when he pans to a random point on the map, and pause it, just click E to reveal full view, and you'll see that it is exactly over a zergling, and that he immediately reacts.

edit 2:

On September 09 2010 18:27 KingPhilip wrote:
Your name : KingPhilip
Hacker Name : GearBox
Replay : http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=147598
Description :
I am the protoss player KingPhilip playing against GearBox in a diamond league ladder match on Delta Quadrant. The problem that I faced was that he map hacked. He automatically sent his 7th scv to my natural and built a barracks in an attempt to marauder/bunker rush me. Although I could have handled the situation better, I was shocked that I was getting cheesed on a 4 player map so early and when he didn't scout me. I can go on and on about it, but I will let you peeps see for yourself the bs that I faced.

I played this match around 1:25 am PST, Gear box is ranked 7 on his division "FELD KILO" with 25 wins and 14 loses with 595 points.
Obvious things to note :
GearBox map hacks
He had no indication that I was at that area, but build a barracks at my natural
constantly looked at my main base even though there was a fog of war.


super obvious maphacker.
HalfAmazing
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands402 Posts
September 09 2010 14:10 GMT
#38
On Europe Smurf and Cranberries are confirmed, 100% positive, hackers. Replays are available, but there really is no doubt as to these two being cheaters.
You can figure out the other half.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 09 2010 14:19 GMT
#39
On September 09 2010 07:06 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 07:02 zomgtossrush wrote:
can players who are EXTREMLY bm be added to this too? Such as players who fly cc's to prolong games?

This is specifically a hacker database and there are probably thousands or millions of people who do what you are describing at least some of the time... so I suggest we keep that separate.


Being a douche and actually cheating are completely seperate things. Plus I don't think that BM is cause for bans/warnings.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 09 2010 14:22 GMT
#40
On September 09 2010 08:58 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Day9's had multiple dailys on knowing the timings of zergs getting out their mutas on certain builds, you don't necessarily need to scout something to act with caution, but thanks for the inpute :D hope this database works out well


completely right about the timings. That is why I am affraid that this will turn into a "he made turrets right before my muta came he hacks" thread. Or anything like that really.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
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