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I just watched an epic documentary on youtube about neanderthals, one of the most successful human species ever. It was pretty epic, to say the least, or it wouldn't warrant a thread.
Some interesting facts:
- If the birth rate of neanderthals was 2% higher, they wouldn't have died out
- Neanderthals and humans could have conceived viable offspring (check out the last episode for a hilarious scene of a human fucking a neanderthal while she eats)
- Neanderthals had language and tools, it's just that modern humans had better language and tools
Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/user/HyperbolaGuy#g/c/3BA861C2D65F0669
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Sounds interesting I'll check it out when I have the time, thanks!
Some animals also have language and tools though ^^
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Its not know if cromagnon ever met Neanderthals but it entirely possible.
Alot of what people think about Neanderthals is shaped by the early interpretation as basic dumb fucks, to quote one archaeologist, if you put a Neanderthals in human clothes and in the subway, they would be difficult to distinguish between them and modern humans.
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On December 23 2009 23:38 Kerotan wrote: Its not know if cromagnon ever met Neanderthals but it entirely possible.
Alot of what people think about Neanderthals is shaped by the early interpretation as basic dumb fucks, to quote one archaeologist, if you put a Neanderthals in human clothes and in the subway, they would be difficult to distinguish between them and modern humans. This is assuming that they're languages were similar to ones existent right now, correct? Otherwise, I believe that quote.
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I think I've seen this documentary before. Is it the one where the Neanderthals kidnap that Cro-magnon girl?
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On December 24 2009 01:04 Jyvblamo wrote: I think I've seen this documentary before. Is it the one where the Neanderthals kidnap that Cro-magnon girl? I saw one where Cro-magnons kidnap a Neanderthal girl (who later becomes pregnant) perhaps that is what your thinking of.
Some facts I found interesting was that one of our main evolutionary advantages was a subtle difference in hip structure that means we use less energy walking/running that inevitably leads to a significant difference in food requirements. The Neanderthal's vocal chords were incapable of making noises like "ooh" and "ahh" that you hear in every tv/movie representation of them.
Also apparently archeologists are very divided on whether or not a Cro-magnon/Neanderthal hybrid would be possible.
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thanks for the link man, I love this sort of stuff.
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Fascinating stuff. Thanks for the share (:
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On December 24 2009 00:25 Archaic wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2009 23:38 Kerotan wrote: Its not know if cromagnon ever met Neanderthals but it entirely possible.
Alot of what people think about Neanderthals is shaped by the early interpretation as basic dumb fucks, to quote one archaeologist, if you put a Neanderthals in human clothes and in the subway, they would be difficult to distinguish between them and modern humans. This is assuming that they're languages were similar to ones existent right now, correct? Otherwise, I believe that quote. What it means is that the Neanderthals, if taken to present time, would have the abilities to learn our language (just as offspring of humans) and thus be unrecognizable from normal people.
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On December 24 2009 11:48 icemac wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2009 00:25 Archaic wrote:On December 23 2009 23:38 Kerotan wrote: Its not know if cromagnon ever met Neanderthals but it entirely possible.
Alot of what people think about Neanderthals is shaped by the early interpretation as basic dumb fucks, to quote one archaeologist, if you put a Neanderthals in human clothes and in the subway, they would be difficult to distinguish between them and modern humans. This is assuming that they're languages were similar to ones existent right now, correct? Otherwise, I believe that quote. What it means is that the Neanderthals, if taken to present time, would have the abilities to learn our language (just as offspring of humans) and thus be unrecognizable from normal people.
Clearly you've never seen the movie Encino Man or you'd know how wrong you are
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On December 24 2009 11:48 icemac wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2009 00:25 Archaic wrote:On December 23 2009 23:38 Kerotan wrote: Its not know if cromagnon ever met Neanderthals but it entirely possible.
Alot of what people think about Neanderthals is shaped by the early interpretation as basic dumb fucks, to quote one archaeologist, if you put a Neanderthals in human clothes and in the subway, they would be difficult to distinguish between them and modern humans. This is assuming that they're languages were similar to ones existent right now, correct? Otherwise, I believe that quote. What it means is that the Neanderthals, if taken to present time, would have the abilities to learn our language (just as offspring of humans) and thus be unrecognizable from normal people.
Its more of an assertion about how in terms of physical attributes.mannerisms , Neanderthals would be difficult to distinguish when placed next to a tired, and entirely human commuter, and really it can be taken with a pinch of salt.
The point was that a fair number of peoples perception of Neanderthals is something like this,
Which is simply not the case.
They are more human than ape.
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So what if the Neanderthals actually had survived? Do you reckon humanity would've waged war on them? Placed them in slums like the movie District 9 (kind of, anyway)? Would they be going through what black people were, just indefinately? Would they get the jobs that required more memory, jesus fuck the possibilities.. And the SCIENCE!
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is this the one where tehy pronounced them Neander talls
if so that annoyed me so much i couldnt even finish watching it
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On December 24 2009 22:26 Lovin wrote: So what if the Neanderthals actually had survived? Do you reckon humanity would've waged war on them? Placed them in slums like the movie District 9 (kind of, anyway)? Would they be going through what black people were, just indefinately? Would they get the jobs that required more memory, jesus fuck the possibilities.. And the SCIENCE! I think they'd be killed off no matter what happened, there's no getting along with them, they will try to kill you on site.
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