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Inspired by the thread earlier this fall, I decided to find out how many times
non-koreans have beaten koreans in various offline tournaments.
PGL was hell to go through 
Big thanks to Dknight for his R&S threads on the ones from fall 2007, and
summer 2008!
Bo1s unless specified.
(bo3) = won the bo3
(2-1) = took one game but lost the bo3
WCG
2001
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon_small.gif) ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/kr.png) Doggi vs ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.gif) ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/cn.png) Deep_cn
Doggi vs ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.gif) ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/se.png) Jesse_se
Gundam vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/nl.png) Nazgul_nl
Gundam vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/fr.png) Elky_fr
Gorush vs Elky_fr
2002
Oddysay vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/bg.png) Bykli_bg
Junwi vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/es.png) Suker_es
Boxer vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/pe.png) JoseZ_pe
Boxer vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/us.png) Froz_us
Boxer vs Froz_us (tiebreaker)
Oddysay vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/pl.png) Blackman_pl (bo3)
Junwi vs Elky_fr
2003
ogogo vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/br.png) Hellghost_br
Silent_control vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/de.png) Fisheye_de
HOT vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/tw.png) 6Club_tw
HOT vs Autumnwillow_ph
HOT vs Hellghost_br (bo3)
Silent_Control vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ca.png) Grrrr_ca (bo3)
ogogo vs Fisheye_de (2-1)
2004
Midas vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ru.png) Advokate_ru
Foru vs Testie_ca (2-1)
2005
Silent_Control vs Reason_br
Silent_Control vs Testie_ca
Silent_Control vs Testie_ca (tiebreaker)
Foru vs Slash_co
Foru vs Blackman_pl
Silent_Control vs Androide_ru (bo3)
Foru vs Sen_tw (2-1)
Foru vs Storm_cn (2-1)
2006
Midas vs Cobo_my
Midas vs Draco_pl
Midas vs Testie_ca (2-1)
iloveoov vs Draco_pl (2-1)
2007
Savior vs Mondragon_de
Savior vs PJ_cn (bo3)
Stork vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ua.png) White-RA_ua
2008
Stork vs lovett_cn (2-1)
2009
Jaedong vs Advokate_ru (2-1)
Stork vs Pj_CN (2-1)
KBK#2
Jinsu vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/no.png) Slayer_no
Love[30DOM] (aka CIMA~Reddog) vs Slayer_no
IntoTheRain vs Slayer_no
I.love_star vs Slayer_no (bo3)
KBK#3
Sir@Soni vs Elky_fr (bo3)
KBK#4
Sir@Soni vs ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/images/flags2/au.png) Legionnaire_au
Sindoki vs Elky_fr
BWWI#1
Nal_rA vs Fisheye_de (2-1)
BWWI#2
Savior vs Sen_tw (2-1)
BWWI#3
Kal vs F91_cn (2-1)
Blizzcon#1
Reach vs Mondragon_de (2-1)
Yellow vs Assem_us (2-1)
Blizzcon#2
Reach vs Testie_ca (2-1)
Nal_rA vs Testie_ca (2-1)
Blizzcon#3
Yellow vs Idra_us (bo3)
Blizzcon#4
NaDa vs ret_nl (2-1)
ESWC
Tossgirl vs IdrA_us (bo3)
Tossgirl vs White_RA_ua (bo3)
Tossgirl vs Super_cn (2-1)
WEG
Boxer vs Super_cn
CKCG 2005
Silent_Control vs Super_cn (2-1)
Kingdom draw vs Lx_cn
Siva vs Super_cn
Boxer vs Lx_cn
Silent_Control vs Phoenix66
IEF 2006
Chojja vs Super_cn (2-1)
Boradori vs Super_cn
IEST 2006
Yellow vs Super_cn (bo3)
Reach vs Super_cn (2-1)
IEST 2007
Sheis vs PJ_cn (2-1)
IEF 2007
iloveoov vs PJ_cn
Nada vs F91_cn
Bisu vs Lx_cn
iloveoov vs Lx_cn (2-1)
IEF 2008
Nope
IEF 2009
Effort vs PJ_cn
Bisu vs Jaystar_cn
Boxer vs White-Ra_ua
Boxer vs G5_us
Terror vs PJ_cn (2-1)
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The PGL seasons had koreans, but some of them were amateurs.
Tons of matches were played, and many of them were BO3s. Often players would
meet each other in several BO3s during the tournament.
PGL2006+ Show Spoiler +
PGL2007_spring+ Show Spoiler +
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PGL2007_fall+ Show Spoiler +
PGL2008_summer+ Show Spoiler +
PGL2009_winter+ Show Spoiler +
Had to spam 3 posts for the flag and race icons to not be retarded.
Protossplayers have done by far the best vs koreans, then zerg, then terran.
In the early WCGs nonkoreans terran, and some zergs had their best time, while
the later years it's been mostly protoss, and some zergs.
I think I have covered most of the offline tournaments, but feel free to suggest others.
Im not 100 % sure of 6Club_tw and Autumnwillow_ph races, so if anyone knows, please inform me if they're wrong.
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this is great. nice to know some stuff that has happened in the past. great work dude!
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lx also beat boxer at the event where he drew with kingdom
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PJ looks like a huge Korean Killer... gj
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On December 04 2009 21:33 IdrA wrote:
lx also beat boxer at the event where he drew with kingdom
Thanks, there were also two other games in that event I had missed, Super>Siva, and Phoenix66>Silent_Control.
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did you include legionaires 3/4-0 teamgame
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nazgul and legionnaire beat xellos when they were in korea also
grrr and elky when they were active won a huge amount of games vs koreans in diff leagues of course =P
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I dont think the last two posters understand the point with this thread. These are not progamer tournaments, but amateur tournaments. You can check TLPD for Grrrr, Elky, Legionnaire, and other nonkorean progamers results in progamer tournaments.
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gah yellow, tossgirl, and silent control =(
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Silent_Control's name sure shows up a lot.
Tho imo he can't be compared with most of the names up there.
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Hmm with the exception of PJ and his PvZ, almost every upset is in the "easy" matchups; PvT, ZvP and occasionally mirror MU:s.
So not many TvP/PvZ/ZvT wins for foreigners with the exception of Rets and F91:s games against Nada ZvT. Look at how many times terrans like Silent_control (who by all means isn't bad) lost to foreigners, especially protoss. I cringe whenever I see Boxer or silent_control play against a foreign protoss because I know an upset is likely and even probable. It's PvT after all, the mathcup where terran looses if he screws up the smallest strategical positioning or micro.
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Tossgirl vs IdrA_us (bo3)
Tossgirl vs White_RA_ua (bo3)
lol white ra and idra ran the train on tossgirl.
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F91/Pj/Lx fighting! ^^
This looks like it took a long time, thanks hehe 
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Super used to be so awesome in 05/06. I wonder why no Korean team took him even when PJ and Lx were grabbed.
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This is awesome, thank you!
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