EPTi bet most women in the military can kick your ass
Why can't men be men and women be women? - Page 2
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iamho
United States3345 Posts
i bet most women in the military can kick your ass | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
Sorry if I came across up there are as "women are bad" | ||
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2b-Rigtheous
Korea (South)50 Posts
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iamho
United States3345 Posts
On August 23 2009 10:45 2b-Rigtheous wrote: Absolutely, if the black person is less qualified than the white person, give the white person the job. However, if the black person is more qualified than the white person, give him the job. Sound logical? yep, and it also sounds perfectly logical that women who were able to get through police/military training should be able to get those jobs, so I have no idea what you're complaining about. | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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2b-Rigtheous
Korea (South)50 Posts
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armed_
Canada443 Posts
On August 23 2009 10:45 Loanshark wrote: Personally my stance is "we should acknowledge that women and men are different and have different strengths in different areas with some exceptions i.e really buff girl who can kick your ass or awesome male cook" Are you trying to imply that there is some difference between the two genders that makes women naturally better at cooking? | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
On August 23 2009 10:47 iamho wrote: yep, and it also sounds perfectly logical that women who were able to get through police/military training should be able to get those jobs, so I have no idea what you're complaining about. Read the last page? | ||
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iamho
United States3345 Posts
On August 23 2009 10:48 2b-Rigtheous wrote: The complaint is that women are subject to easier tests and requirements. Hence they beat out more qualified men on the basis that their test is significantly easier. proof? one random anecdote doesn't count | ||
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
On August 23 2009 10:42 lilsusie wrote: I agree that men and women are meant for different roles, and yes I agree on the physical capabilities. Things like that SHOULD be measured on an equal standard. However, the tone of your post sounds like there's a definitive "women are weaker lol we need to protect them". It's a bit condescending. Are you saying then, that men shouldn't be homemakers? Or cooks? Is this a "we should be considered equal in all aspects" thread? or a "women are weak, boo feminism" thread? You see, you've misunderstood his point. Men are PHYSICALLY superior to women in most regards. They are stronger, faster, and often have more stamina. This can't be changed by any feasible means. However cooking/homemaking is a purely intellectual art. He described physically protecting his girlfriend, which although rather chivalrous, isn't theoretically flawed because he (most likely) is bigger/stronger than her. | ||
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
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armed_
Canada443 Posts
On August 23 2009 10:54 ghermination wrote: He described physically protecting his girlfriend, which although rather chivalrous, isn't theoretically flawed because he (most likely) is bigger/stronger than her. His examples may be of physical cases, but the manner in which he presents them clearly implies an attitude that goes beyond that. | ||
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intruding
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zcxvbn
United States257 Posts
Though OP has demonstrated why feminism is such a tricky issue to address - one misstep and you are immediately labelled a 'sexist pig' even for your 'chivalrous views'. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
Proof? What do you mean Proof? It's common knowledge that PT tests for Military/Police are easier for women than they are men. I mean take uh... the SAPD PT exam to even allow yourself to apply Men is uh.. 26 pushups 35 situps, 13:30 1.5mile. Women its 9 pushups, 33 situps, and a 16:00 1.5mile. Now there are definitely women out there that can do either of these high strain physical jobs... they are just more difficult to find. | ||
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Chef
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For the police force, absolutely it's ideal to have 6 foot tall behemoths patrolling the rough parts of town. But that's not the entirety of a police officer's job in many countries. A lot of roles are more community centric and focused on just community service and preventing non-violent crime. If a woman pulls you over for driving drunk, she's totally capable of bringing you in even without being Arnold Swatszanagger. Honestly, there's very few jobs women can't do that men can, and the jobs they can't, most men can't either. The difference in upper body strength is only critical in a few situations. | ||
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miseiler
United States1389 Posts
On August 23 2009 10:37 2b-Rigtheous wrote: Nonsense? Don't you protect your girlfriend? I know I do. I'll take a beating or bullet for her if I have to. The world is a dangerous place and women need protection, don't delude yourself into thinking otherwise. My woman could kick your ass. And mine, too. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
How much physical strength does it take to pull a fucking trigger? This isn't the middle ages, they aren't wielding broadswords. This isn't 1800's japan. They use machine guns in the military. What if a woman happens to be an amazingly good sniper? Or an excellent pilot? Maybe she aced the machine gun accuracy test? According to you none of these hypothetical women should be in the military and that's bullshit. And hell if someone is willing to die for you(ok more realistically, for the federal governments agenda  ) who the fuck are you to tell them they can't. Get over yourself.Your points are valid when it comes to SOME police work to some extent or firefighting ...but if they can meet the physical requirements women should be allowed. Keep in mind that some women are extremely strong. Certainly stronger than you or me. There was this chick at my high school that could beat almost all of the guys at shotput(she was one of the top female shot putters in the nation). She could also bench close to 300 pounds(she was a freaking beast but that's not the point). There should be basic physical requirements regardless of gender for physically demanding jobs. If you pass them your in..whether or not you have a vagina. Problem solved. Yes having different physical tests is unfair. But for most police forces(maybe all?) and as far as I know all firefighting forces(at least in california) the tests are already the same. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On August 23 2009 10:48 lazz wrote: i agree with your points about women's physical limitations, there is no denying that they're simply unfit for jobs like policing or combat roles in the military. i really think we sohuld stop deluding ourselves about this as well (militant feminists im looking at you) How are they unfit for combat roles? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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it's because many people do not want to be categorically limited screw men being men and women being women. let's just let people be people. and I agree, let's be realistic and fair. | ||
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