On July 17 2009 06:25 YPang wrote:
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yeah go eat it
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OneOther
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On July 17 2009 06:25 YPang wrote: ... yeah go eat it | ||
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On July 17 2009 09:16 Leath wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2009 04:09 YPang wrote: On July 17 2009 03:59 Chef wrote: I'm so sick of these blanket statements 'P is easy at low levels' or 'Terran is strongest at the highest levels' but no one ever backs up their statements. Like it's some accepted common knowledge? Why did you even say it then?! AHHHHRGGG! i think iccup map stats proves that. Almost all icc map stats P>T, P >/= Z, Z> T. With exception to othello. Desti: ZvT : 25148 - 27802 (47 %) ZvP: vs30656 - 28186 (52.1 %) TvP: vs29152 - 32791 (47 %) I think you are interpreting those numbers wrong lol ZvT : 25148 - 27802 (47 %) = Zerg has only won 47% games over terran. Meaning T > Z with 53% winning rate ZvP: vs30656 - 28186 (52.1 %) = Zerg has a 52.1% win ratio vs protoss. Not the other way around. So P is not >/= Z, more like Z > P and TvP: vs29152 - 32791 (47 %) is showing that the Protoss has a winning rate of 53% over the Terran. You may conclude that Destination favors Protoss slightly by those statistics. However this map only shows the natural way of things: T > Z > P > T Those map statistics might also contradict the theory that Protoss is the easy race, and "suggest" zerg is the easy race, if you compare the "easy" MU of each race (ZvP, TvZ, PvT), and the "hard"mu (ZvT, TvP, PvZ) percentage. Often, ZvT seems to be much less difficult than PvZ (hard MU) while PvT seems to be slightly easier than ZvP (easy MU) Sorry guys... But, statistically, Zerg is actually slightly easier than Protoss. o_O And Terran is horribly difficult. *respect for Terran players* These statistics include both A and D players, which means that even the terrible players are included. If the statistcs were divided by ranks, they would give more meaning. Perhaps at A rank there might be imbalances? | ||
YPang
United States4024 Posts
On July 17 2009 10:04 OneOther wrote: yeah go eat it i already ate my words. and Shitted(Shat it) out... I SPEAK TOO MUCH BULLSHIT. | ||
boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Chef
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On July 17 2009 11:19 boesthius wrote: i played against a Z from norway today in a D+ game, and he was harassing the shit out of me CONSTANTLY with mutas, to the point where i just laid 10 cannons in each base. however, when i rolled out of my main with my mass protoss ball rolled him over because he didn't want to tech to hive and constantly pump mass hydra - he said something along the lines of "gj toss easy, with your 20 apm you pro". not the exact quote, but it made me laugh. sorry you didn't make the correct tech switchover or even attempt to contain me in my natural (which was on destination btw.) iCCup is basically like USEast if USEast watched VODs. Kind of why I don't play much SC. 00:11:20 raynorgg Chat nicehack 00:11:22 raynorgg Chat mother fucker 00:11:24 LittleBuster Chat 'thanks 00:12:01 raynorgg Chat u hack 00:12:02 raynorgg Chat asshole 00:12:06 LittleBuster Chat yup 00:12:09 raynorgg Chat SHUT UP 00:12:12 raynorgg Chat NERD 00:12:17 LittleBuster Chat 00:14:13 raynorgg Chat motherfucker 00:14:16 raynorgg Chat u will be banned 00:14:19 raynorgg Chat watchout 00:14:43 raynorgg Chat GO TO HELL 00:14:45 raynorgg Chat MOTHER FUCKER 00:14:48 raynorgg Chat WALLHACK 00:14:51 raynorgg Leave Game player quit | ||
Severedevil
United States4795 Posts
On July 17 2009 06:43 404.Nitrogen wrote: yep protoss is generally easier at the lower ranks because generally the micro/macro is easier compared to other races because the other races require more babysitting and using abilities like burrowing, stim, using siege mode. terran requires a little more apm, and this is what most lower level users lack, hence the gap between terran and protoss at low levels. i'm not saying protoss is easy in general or anything, but i think most people would agree with me when i say if you are a lower rank then protoss is easier to play. at higher levels the game is balanced very well. In my limited experience, Terran lends itself to rapid unit orders, so you naturally click faster while playing. It's only hard to give rapid instruction if you need to do it on different screens, or with high precision. | ||
koreasilver
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On July 17 2009 03:59 Chef wrote: I'm so sick of these blanket statements 'P is easy at low levels' or 'Terran is strongest at the highest levels' but no one ever backs up their statements. Like it's some accepted common knowledge? Why did you even say it then?! AHHHHRGGG! It's the truth. Because it is. | ||
3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
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FaTe)SoL
Canada110 Posts
On July 17 2009 03:59 AzureEye wrote: Last time I checked, P army straight up can't win verse Terran army without storm, zealot drops, stasis, flank, etc. Right. Just like how a Terran army can't win against a Protoss army without siege mode, spider mines, missle turrets, and positioning. | ||
Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On July 17 2009 13:04 koreasilver wrote: WALLHACK. ahahaha | ||
CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
On July 18 2009 09:16 FaTe)SoL wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2009 03:59 AzureEye wrote:Last time I checked, P army straight up can't win verse Terran army without storm, zealot drops, stasis, flank, etc. Right. Just like how a Terran army can't win against a Protoss army without siege mode, spider mines, missle turrets, and positioning. I think AzureEye has a valid point. Protoss do have easier mecanics and that helps at lower levels, but the fact is that properly engaging a D level Terran push usually takes more skill than what we D level Protoss have. It doesnt matter if you are Flash or some random D noob, Tanks still melt Dragoons and mines still melt Zealots. Of course, the better a Terran player is, the better his unit positioning will be, but my points is that as a Protoss, if you dont at least do a decent job engaging the Terran army, even as a D level player, your army will melt, while Terrans can rely on the sheer damage output and resistance of Tanks, Vultures and mines which are a lot more forgiving to poor unit control. | ||
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