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On March 01 2009 20:45 ReketSomething wrote: Now we know why Bisu does the Bisu build. Because if he doesn't he cant block shizzles if someone refers to forge-->cannon-->FE as the bisu build one more time, I think I might explode.
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On March 01 2009 20:42 Rostam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 20:36 GinNtoniC wrote:On March 01 2009 20:34 Raithed wrote:On March 01 2009 20:32 Rostam wrote: Hahaha...didn't Best use that build against Kwanro in proleague when he lost to him on Andromeda? Guess he's been giving Bisu some PvZ tips! rofl if thats the case.... sigh. idk why bisu didnt go with FE. i mean, it wouldve helped better than that shit and if bisu held, he wouldve been really really ahead like g1 on andro. i just dont fucking understand. wtf was bisu trying to do? speedzeal and mass? because honestly he wouldnt have the gas to do much of any tech until he got the third. sigh. -______-;; I know! Andromeda is a friggin horrible map for 1 base play PvZ. The entire map is planned out for FE --> choke/ramp securing and taking the 3rd thereafter. It's like playing 1 base on Medusa. just dumb. As I recall AttackZerg mentioned in the CJ vs SKT thread that the build is designed to counter overpool/9-pool, and Jaedong did say afterwards that he was at a build disadvantage there I think. I don't think it was necessarily a bad idea by Bisu just perhaps...sub-optimal execution?
Bisu commented that he thought he had the game won because he had the BO advantage in game 5 (and we saw how BO wins affects the rest of the game between these two in this series), and Jaedong conceded that he was fortunate to have won the game because he was fighting an uphill battle from the start.
Jaedong saw an opening. Bisu obviously had a lapse of concentration. You can't let that happen. Not when you're playing Jaedong.
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On March 01 2009 20:45 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 20:45 VioleTAK wrote:On March 01 2009 20:43 Magic84 wrote:On March 01 2009 20:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:It's not a stretch to say this series isn't over I mean, it is, Jaedong got the cash and the trophy... But Jaedong knows neither of them really got to play game 5. He looked so fucking mad after the gg, like 'aw, what the hell?!' Wait, when 1 player makes a mistake (and a BAD one) and loses, the game doesn't count? Its a special event, did you give that much importance to the great ammount of silly stuff that was happening in super fights? This isn't OSL finals, yet. the superfights didnt have 1 mil won prizemoney Couldn't care less about that...
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On March 01 2009 20:45 ReketSomething wrote: Now we know why Bisu does the Bisu build. Because if he doesn't he cant block shizzles too soon for jokes at least.. bad ones. GTFO =/
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It wasn't necessarily that bisu forgot to hold position. He needed three units to block a ramp of that size and it's possible his probe got sniped somehow, or that he was trying to reposition himself during the battle and fucked up terribly. Bisu seemed really crushed by that defeat and it kills my spirit a little, i hope he recovers well and fast.
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On March 01 2009 20:44 Seraphim wrote: Whatever. Hopefully this series still allows Bisu fans to show more respect for Jaedong, and the Jd fans/bisu haters to show more respect for Bisu.
I agree, I don't understand why the fanboyism must take on such a hatefull face in these events. I love both these players, the level of starcraft they play is enough to make me cheer for them against almost any player they meet.
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On March 01 2009 20:32 Tensai176 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 20:31 nttea wrote: 5/10 my ass, Jaedong is obviously the superiour gamer Uhhh 5/10 for defense and Macro. The last game, it was clear that he used the '10' control Bisu had given him. His macro was even off, as he sent 6 more lings instead of 2 -> 2 -> 2
no, it was because he didn't expect to get control over the ramp. He made those 6 cause he did to kill bisu. Otherwise those would have been drones.
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Even after Flash won GSI it was still taken with a shrug.
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On March 01 2009 20:44 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Bisu choked against Mind back in GOMTV S3 and he went into a slump for a while.
Bisu chokes again and now I predict he's done for.
And I predict Bisu being back on Tuesday or Wednesday and doing another 3-4 kill, depending on what the situation requires.
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On March 01 2009 20:45 VioleTAK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 20:43 Magic84 wrote:On March 01 2009 20:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:It's not a stretch to say this series isn't over I mean, it is, Jaedong got the cash and the trophy... But Jaedong knows neither of them really got to play game 5. He looked so fucking mad after the gg, like 'aw, what the hell?!' Wait, when 1 player makes a mistake (and a BAD one) and loses, the game doesn't count? Its a special event, did you give that much importance to the great ammount of silly stuff that was happening in super fights? This isn't OSL finals, yet.
Yeah but that silly mistake cost him a ton of money
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On March 01 2009 20:43 ReketSomething wrote: I think that Bisu pressed the wrong button for his 5/10's just like he hit stop instead of hold position. LOL
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What about if Jaedong did NOT run to Bisu's ramp and try to overcome it?
I give credit to Jaedong. It was not only one sided error, the decision to overcome the ramp made by Jaedong was fundamental.
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On March 01 2009 20:47 GeLaar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 20:44 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Bisu choked against Mind back in GOMTV S3 and he went into a slump for a while.
Bisu chokes again and now I predict he's done for. And I predict Bisu being back on Tuesday or Wednesday and doing another 3-4 kill, depending on what the situation requires.
Care to wager on that?
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On March 01 2009 20:25 HeavOnEarth wrote:well since it's already spoiled, + Show Spoiler +bisu: fuck andro imba piece of shit fix the ramps
ROFL
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On March 01 2009 20:47 VioleTAK wrote: Even after Flash won GSL it was still taken with a shrug. dude the flash vs stork series pretty much established flash as the dominant TvP force of that time period, taking out the best PvT of the time? i did not take that with a shrug, and i have no clue why you did.
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I think you just failed, good sir
and just as I post that, you get the link right
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On March 01 2009 20:47 leandroqm wrote: What about if Jaedong did NOT run to Bisu's ramp and try to overcome it?
I give credit to Jaedong. It was not only one sided error, the decision to overcome the ramp made by Jaedong was fundamental.
ya you guys are trying to nullify the significance of that last game WAY too much. it tells us a lot about both players.
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On March 01 2009 20:44 GinNtoniC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 20:41 Mooncat wrote:On March 01 2009 20:38 GinNtoniC wrote:On March 01 2009 20:37 keV. wrote:On March 01 2009 20:37 Seraphim wrote: As far as I'm concerned, the series ended 2-2 Totally agree. that's a bit fanboyish of a comment... but heck, I too agree That's not "a bit fanyboyish". It's like 500% fanboyism. Sorry guys, but that's the way Starcraft works. You make a HORRIBLE mistake, that just shouldn't happen to a gamer of your caliber, and you're out of the game. What we're basically saying is that this 5th game didn't put a definate answer to the question "who is the better player?" and therefore, in our minds, the series in a sense ended even. Of course we're not sticking our heads in the sand going "nah-uh! it wasn't fair! rematch needed" see it for what it is We're all disappointed and eager to see another series to settle this rivalry its foolish to think this series could have given a definite answer to the question "who is the better player?" between JD and Bisu in the first place though.
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