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On March 01 2009 20:41 Mooncat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 20:38 GinNtoniC wrote:On March 01 2009 20:37 keV. wrote:On March 01 2009 20:37 Seraphim wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, the series ended 2-2 Totally agree. that's a bit fanboyish of a comment... but heck, I too agree That's not "a bit fanyboyish". It's like 500% fanboyism. Sorry guys, but that's the way Starcraft works. You make a HORRIBLE mistake, that just shouldn't happen to a gamer of your caliber, and you're out of the game.
I can't speak for the original poster, but I at least meant that. You definitely cannot say one person is definitively better then the other after a game like that. I think we would just like to see a more pronounced win, not "our guy" to lose or win.
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On March 01 2009 20:40 Oedi wrote:
In the end, we will look at the results and not how the games were played and Jaedong got the result.
Eff that , if the report on the games did the forementioned TL would be all over it
the series could've gone either way, easily, and like someone mentioned before if they kept at it , it would be 5-5 or more
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On March 01 2009 20:43 ReketSomething wrote:
I think that Bisu pressed the wrong button for his 5/10's just like he hit stop instead of hold position.
stop zealots FTL
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Bisu was like a chess player trying some weird opening, but only knowing it theoretically till the 4th move ... at least in the last two games
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On March 01 2009 20:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:It's not a stretch to say this series isn't over  I mean, it is, Jaedong got the cash and the trophy... But Jaedong knows neither of them really got to play game 5. He looked so fucking mad after the gg, like 'aw, what the hell?!'
Wait, when 1 player makes a mistake (and a BAD one) and loses, the game doesn't count? 
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On March 01 2009 20:41 Mooncat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 20:38 GinNtoniC wrote:On March 01 2009 20:37 keV. wrote:On March 01 2009 20:37 Seraphim wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, the series ended 2-2 Totally agree. that's a bit fanboyish of a comment... but heck, I too agree That's not "a bit fanyboyish". It's like 500% fanboyism. Sorry guys, but that's the way Starcraft works. You make a HORRIBLE mistake, that just shouldn't happen to a gamer of your caliber, and you're out of the game.
What we're basically saying is that this 5th game didn't put a definate answer to the question "who is the better player?" and therefore, in our minds, the series in a sense ended even.
Of course we're not sticking our heads in the sand going "nah-uh! it wasn't fair! rematch needed"
see it for what it is
We're all disappointed and eager to see another series to settle this rivalry
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Man now I really hope for a Bisu vs Jaedong OSL finals. If the brackets are right I don't see anyone stopping that from happening though. I mean this series showed a level of starcraft (up until g5) that is rarely seen.
What we need now is a JD/Bisu/Flash FFA Bo5 to really see who's the best lol
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On March 01 2009 20:43 disciple wrote:
Bisu was like a chess player trying some weird opening, but only knowing it theoretically till the 4th move
it had nothing to do with his build, it was all mechanics
any onebase build needs hold on the ramp zeals, that problem wasnt build-specific (other than the not cannon FEing part).
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Bisu choked against Mind back in GOMTV S3 and he went into a slump for a while.
Bisu chokes again and now I predict he's done for.
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Whatever. Hopefully this series still allows Bisu fans to show more respect for Jaedong, and the Jd fans/bisu haters to show more respect for Bisu.
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Bisu could've won that last game if he didn`t messed it up like that...ahh wtfff, I was expecting some stylish queeeeens 
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On March 01 2009 20:41 Mooncat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 20:38 GinNtoniC wrote:On March 01 2009 20:37 keV. wrote:On March 01 2009 20:37 Seraphim wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, the series ended 2-2 Totally agree. that's a bit fanboyish of a comment... but heck, I too agree That's not "a bit fanyboyish". It's like 500% fanboyism. Sorry guys, but that's the way Starcraft works. You make a HORRIBLE mistake, that just shouldn't happen to a gamer of your caliber, and you're out of the game.
Are people allowed to have opinions around here without being called fanboys?
Anyway, I may like Bisu, but Jaedong took advantage of Bisu's errors and needs to be given credit for the win. It's a shame it ended the way it did, but Jaedong earned it.
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People should check the spoilers in the OP.
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On March 01 2009 20:43 Magic84 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 20:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:It's not a stretch to say this series isn't over I mean, it is, Jaedong got the cash and the trophy... But Jaedong knows neither of them really got to play game 5. He looked so fucking mad after the gg, like 'aw, what the hell?!' Wait, when 1 player makes a mistake (and a BAD one) and loses, the game doesn't count?
Its a special event, did you give that much importance to the great ammount of silly stuff that was happening in super fights? This isn't OSL finals, yet.
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Now we know why Bisu does the Bisu build. Because if he doesn't he cant block shizzles
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In an attempt to cut through the fanboyism that I know some people on both sides will engage on, my thoughts.
Jaedong was the better player in the final game and hence, the series - because he won three games. Doesn't matter that Bisu threw it away, Jaedong still won it. However because of that game and given that Bisu did beat Jaedong in an epic display the day before, I don't think you can say one player is better than the other definitively - or that either has a mastery of the matchup above the other. What if's and buts don't enter into it - 3:3 over 6 games over 2 days with rape wins by both do, and that's what we have. This series felt incomplete - even if the result was clear, and nobody can dispute the result.
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On March 01 2009 20:44 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Bisu choked against Mind back in GOMTV S3 and he went into a slump for a while.
Bisu chokes again and now I predict he's done for.
We'll see about that
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Hopefully he's not prone to slumping and we'll still have 3 undisputed kings of their races.
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On March 01 2009 20:45 VioleTAK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 20:43 Magic84 wrote:On March 01 2009 20:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:It's not a stretch to say this series isn't over I mean, it is, Jaedong got the cash and the trophy... But Jaedong knows neither of them really got to play game 5. He looked so fucking mad after the gg, like 'aw, what the hell?!' Wait, when 1 player makes a mistake (and a BAD one) and loses, the game doesn't count? Its a special event, did you give that much importance to the great ammount of silly stuff that was happening in super fights? This isn't OSL finals, yet.
the superfights didnt have 1 mil won prizemoney
the fact that they had prepared for this series was kind of evident imo, and forgetting to hold 2 zeals is completely irrespective of... preparation
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On March 01 2009 20:43 Magic84 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 20:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:It's not a stretch to say this series isn't over I mean, it is, Jaedong got the cash and the trophy... But Jaedong knows neither of them really got to play game 5. He looked so fucking mad after the gg, like 'aw, what the hell?!' Wait, when 1 player makes a mistake (and a BAD one) and loses, the game doesn't count?
Dude even Jaedong said it was more luck.
Bisu made the mistake, he deserves the loss but just from these sets of matches, it's hard to determine who the better player is. An OSL Finals would put an end to the debate though.
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