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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
March 01 2009 11:43 GMT
#1801
On March 01 2009 20:41 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 20:38 GinNtoniC wrote:
On March 01 2009 20:37 keV. wrote:
On March 01 2009 20:37 Seraphim wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, the series ended 2-2


Totally agree.

that's a bit fanboyish of a comment... but heck, I too agree


That's not "a bit fanyboyish". It's like 500% fanboyism. Sorry guys, but that's the way Starcraft works. You make a HORRIBLE mistake, that just shouldn't happen to a gamer of your caliber, and you're out of the game.


I can't speak for the original poster, but I at least meant that. You definitely cannot say one person is definitively better then the other after a game like that. I think we would just like to see a more pronounced win, not "our guy" to lose or win.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 01 2009 11:43 GMT
#1802
On March 01 2009 20:40 Oedi wrote:
In the end, we will look at the results and not how the games were played and Jaedong got the result.

Eff that , if the report on the games did the forementioned TL would be all over it
the series could've gone either way, easily, and like someone mentioned before if they kept at it , it would be 5-5 or more
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
March 01 2009 11:43 GMT
#1803
On March 01 2009 20:43 ReketSomething wrote:
I think that Bisu pressed the wrong button for his 5/10's just like he hit stop instead of hold position.


stop zealots FTL
Forever Young
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 11:44:23
March 01 2009 11:43 GMT
#1804
Bisu was like a chess player trying some weird opening, but only knowing it theoretically till the 4th move ... at least in the last two games
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
March 01 2009 11:43 GMT
#1805
On March 01 2009 20:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
It's not a stretch to say this series isn't over

I mean, it is, Jaedong got the cash and the trophy...

But Jaedong knows neither of them really got to play game 5. He looked so fucking mad after the gg, like 'aw, what the hell?!'

Wait, when 1 player makes a mistake (and a BAD one) and loses, the game doesn't count?
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
March 01 2009 11:44 GMT
#1806
On March 01 2009 20:41 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 20:38 GinNtoniC wrote:
On March 01 2009 20:37 keV. wrote:
On March 01 2009 20:37 Seraphim wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, the series ended 2-2


Totally agree.

that's a bit fanboyish of a comment... but heck, I too agree


That's not "a bit fanyboyish". It's like 500% fanboyism. Sorry guys, but that's the way Starcraft works. You make a HORRIBLE mistake, that just shouldn't happen to a gamer of your caliber, and you're out of the game.

What we're basically saying is that this 5th game didn't put a definate answer to the question "who is the better player?" and therefore, in our minds, the series in a sense ended even.
Of course we're not sticking our heads in the sand going "nah-uh! it wasn't fair! rematch needed"
see it for what it is
We're all disappointed and eager to see another series to settle this rivalry
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Makhno
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Sweden585 Posts
March 01 2009 11:44 GMT
#1807
Man now I really hope for a Bisu vs Jaedong OSL finals. If the brackets are right I don't see anyone stopping that from happening though. I mean this series showed a level of starcraft (up until g5) that is rarely seen.

What we need now is a JD/Bisu/Flash FFA Bo5 to really see who's the best lol
"If I think, everything is lost"
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 01 2009 11:44 GMT
#1808
On March 01 2009 20:43 disciple wrote:
Bisu was like a chess player trying some weird opening, but only knowing it theoretically till the 4th move

it had nothing to do with his build, it was all mechanics

any onebase build needs hold on the ramp zeals, that problem wasnt build-specific (other than the not cannon FEing part).
posting on liquid sites in current year
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
March 01 2009 11:44 GMT
#1809
Bisu choked against Mind back in GOMTV S3 and he went into a slump for a while.

Bisu chokes again and now I predict he's done for.
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
March 01 2009 11:44 GMT
#1810
Whatever. Hopefully this series still allows Bisu fans to show more respect for Jaedong, and the Jd fans/bisu haters to show more respect for Bisu.
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
March 01 2009 11:44 GMT
#1811
Bisu could've won that last game if he didn`t messed it up like that...ahh wtfff, I was expecting some stylish queeeeens
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
PhoenixShredds
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States123 Posts
March 01 2009 11:45 GMT
#1812
On March 01 2009 20:41 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 20:38 GinNtoniC wrote:
On March 01 2009 20:37 keV. wrote:
On March 01 2009 20:37 Seraphim wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, the series ended 2-2


Totally agree.

that's a bit fanboyish of a comment... but heck, I too agree


That's not "a bit fanyboyish". It's like 500% fanboyism. Sorry guys, but that's the way Starcraft works. You make a HORRIBLE mistake, that just shouldn't happen to a gamer of your caliber, and you're out of the game.


Are people allowed to have opinions around here without being called fanboys?

Anyway, I may like Bisu, but Jaedong took advantage of Bisu's errors and needs to be given credit for the win. It's a shame it ended the way it did, but Jaedong earned it.
Bisu is best is BeSt.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
March 01 2009 11:45 GMT
#1813
People should check the spoilers in the OP.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
March 01 2009 11:45 GMT
#1814
On March 01 2009 20:43 Magic84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 20:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
It's not a stretch to say this series isn't over

I mean, it is, Jaedong got the cash and the trophy...

But Jaedong knows neither of them really got to play game 5. He looked so fucking mad after the gg, like 'aw, what the hell?!'

Wait, when 1 player makes a mistake (and a BAD one) and loses, the game doesn't count?

Its a special event, did you give that much importance to the great ammount of silly stuff that was happening in super fights? This isn't OSL finals, yet.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
March 01 2009 11:45 GMT
#1815
Now we know why Bisu does the Bisu build. Because if he doesn't he cant block shizzles
Jaedong :3
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 11:47:28
March 01 2009 11:45 GMT
#1816
In an attempt to cut through the fanboyism that I know some people on both sides will engage on, my thoughts.

Jaedong was the better player in the final game and hence, the series - because he won three games. Doesn't matter that Bisu threw it away, Jaedong still won it. However because of that game and given that Bisu did beat Jaedong in an epic display the day before, I don't think you can say one player is better than the other definitively - or that either has a mastery of the matchup above the other. What if's and buts don't enter into it - 3:3 over 6 games over 2 days with rape wins by both do, and that's what we have. This series felt incomplete - even if the result was clear, and nobody can dispute the result.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
March 01 2009 11:45 GMT
#1817
On March 01 2009 20:44 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Bisu choked against Mind back in GOMTV S3 and he went into a slump for a while.

Bisu chokes again and now I predict he's done for.

We'll see about that
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 11:46:15
March 01 2009 11:45 GMT
#1818
Hopefully he's not prone to slumping and we'll still have 3 undisputed kings of their races.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 11:47:19
March 01 2009 11:45 GMT
#1819
On March 01 2009 20:45 VioleTAK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 20:43 Magic84 wrote:
On March 01 2009 20:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
It's not a stretch to say this series isn't over

I mean, it is, Jaedong got the cash and the trophy...

But Jaedong knows neither of them really got to play game 5. He looked so fucking mad after the gg, like 'aw, what the hell?!'

Wait, when 1 player makes a mistake (and a BAD one) and loses, the game doesn't count?

Its a special event, did you give that much importance to the great ammount of silly stuff that was happening in super fights? This isn't OSL finals, yet.

the superfights didnt have 1 mil won prizemoney

the fact that they had prepared for this series was kind of evident imo, and forgetting to hold 2 zeals is completely irrespective of... preparation
posting on liquid sites in current year
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
March 01 2009 11:46 GMT
#1820
On March 01 2009 20:43 Magic84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 20:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
It's not a stretch to say this series isn't over

I mean, it is, Jaedong got the cash and the trophy...

But Jaedong knows neither of them really got to play game 5. He looked so fucking mad after the gg, like 'aw, what the hell?!'

Wait, when 1 player makes a mistake (and a BAD one) and loses, the game doesn't count?

Dude even Jaedong said it was more luck.

Bisu made the mistake, he deserves the loss but just from these sets of matches, it's hard to determine who the better player is. An OSL Finals would put an end to the debate though.
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