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On November 23 2008 04:57 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2008 04:11 theonemephisto wrote: I'd have to argue that Bisu "gambling" was pure skill and brilliance. Bisu has a better understanding of what goes through the other person's head than almost anyone. Even if he isn't the best mechanical player, he probably is one of the best Bo5 players currently because he doesn't play each game, he plays the other player over the series. Jangbi had no chance in a Bo5, especially in a match-up that heavily rewards playing the metagame.
But on the next PR, I'd say that you at least have to give serious consideration to putting Bisu over Stork. Stork hasn't done anything since the OSL, while Bisu has been owning. I wouldn't say that Bisu should definitely be over Stork, but I do think it's a fairly close call. It's basically back to the old debate about how to take into account last month's accomplishments.
But Bisu really is on fire. Just keep in mind that the PR isn't about someone "deserving" a certain rank or anything, it's about ranking players in the context of the players around them. Better understanding my ass he has . Even if he has Stork still beats him and Bisu still loses to terran players that are above the term "average" - yes Hwasin and FBH suck . I don't know what you saw brilliant in that series he had terrible control got lucky with the cheese and Bo win . Stork has faced top level competition all around and has been dominating fairly long . Bisu did was beat TvP disasters FBH and Hwasin a good series vs Free and not that bad vs JangBI . Maybe this month at performance he did better because he was still in the MSL because Stork was focusing an OSL finals WCG PL example , he didn't make MSL Ro8 . But overall Stork is more dominant then Bisu .Since WCG korea Stork has shown good play and domination Bisu should prove more then just winning MSL because Stork too won OSL and beat him while at it . At least the next month Stork should be #1 . Lets see how they do in Gom classic to see who is better althought i don't know if both will take it seriously .
You don't know that Bisu will lose to above average terrans because he was never tested against them ever since he entered Baller mode. The same can be said with Stork and his pvz. All we know is that they are both Ballers but not who is more Baller than the other.
Bisu does not have terrible control. The only slip up I saw in his series vs Jangbi is his shuttle micro. His probe micro deflecting manner pylons, zealot micro in game 3, large army unit control in games 1 and 2 - everything else is impeccable. Generalizing his entire control from just one aspect of unit control makes your argument look biased.
You dont know Bisu got lucky with cheese and BO win. All of this has to do with metagame and mindgames, and we cannot analyze how strong Bisu's mindgames are because of the low amount of sample space present (he only played 2 recent BOx pvps). But mindgames are not just luck. I mean, you dont think playing poker professionaly involves nothing but luck, do you?
Stork has faced top level competition as much as Bisu has. I dont understand why you praise Stork for beating Best and Fantasy while dropping a few games to mediocre players, but not do the same for Bisu, who has not dropped a single game against any mediocre players since he got on fire (unless you count calm as mediocre). I guess you can argue that Bisu dropped a TvP against FHB, but I dont believe this was the time that Bisu really engaged in Baller mode - it was more closer to his BO 3 against Hwasin, imo. This argument leads to the conclusion that Bisu is more consistent than Stork.
And you can say what you want about Stork and Korea WCG qualifiers, but that was so long ago and a lot can change. For example, Bisu getting back on form. He was mediocre back then, which is why he deserved to drop out of the PR. But he is in form now, and the PR should take this into context realizing that Bisu grew into a stronger player, definitely top3 and maybe even better than Stork if his performance continues to stay Baller while Stork continue to drop proleague games.
So does Stork deserve to drop to #2? I dunno . I think the few proleague games remaining will determine who will be #1 and #2, since what both Bisu and Stork has achieved in the past 2 month is pretty similar. But honestly I think if we had to rank them RIGHT NOW then I would put Bisu as #1.
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On November 23 2008 06:17 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2008 05:26 disciple wrote:On November 23 2008 04:57 raga4ka wrote:On November 23 2008 04:11 theonemephisto wrote: I'd have to argue that Bisu "gambling" was pure skill and brilliance. Bisu has a better understanding of what goes through the other person's head than almost anyone. Even if he isn't the best mechanical player, he probably is one of the best Bo5 players currently because he doesn't play each game, he plays the other player over the series. Jangbi had no chance in a Bo5, especially in a match-up that heavily rewards playing the metagame.
But on the next PR, I'd say that you at least have to give serious consideration to putting Bisu over Stork. Stork hasn't done anything since the OSL, while Bisu has been owning. I wouldn't say that Bisu should definitely be over Stork, but I do think it's a fairly close call. It's basically back to the old debate about how to take into account last month's accomplishments.
But Bisu really is on fire. Just keep in mind that the PR isn't about someone "deserving" a certain rank or anything, it's about ranking players in the context of the players around them. Better understanding my ass he has .Even if he has Stork still beats him and Bisu still loses to terran players that are above the term "average" - yes Hwasin and FBH suck . Terran players most likely to run over Bisu - Flash , Mind Leta Fantasy (thought he is a newb ) , ForGG . I don't know what you saw brilliant in that series he had terrible control got lucky with the cheese and Bo win . Stork has faced top level competition all around and has been dominating fairly long all that Bisu did was beat TvP disasters FBH and Hwasin a good series vs Free and not that bad vs JangBI . Just spare all the lines and say you dont like Bisu. Jee... whatever KTY is doing its always not enough for ppl right you. None of Bisu's msl titles was easy to get, he was tested in all MU, beating most of the hot guys out there. His last triumph made no difference, just take a look at jangbi's record this season, free's recent accomplishments even FBH TvP stats from the last couple of months. Winning tournaments doesnt mean beating S class players all the way, and thats the hole point, to endure and to survive the competition. JangBi and free were worthy opponents for the Revolutionist, if flash forGG Leta and fantasy didnt made it to the finals maybe they are not that good actually I'm not saying he is a bad player i'm saying that Stork is better then him right now. Because i don't think that Bisu deserves to be over Stork . Daniel Lee pointed it out in one of their commentarys with Artosis that Bisu is selfish because he focuses an a league and doesn't care much about PL while at it . When Bisu was in MSL together with Stork . Stork was the backbone of the Samsung team in PL with one of the best records in PL.He was in the OSL final , represented Korea in WCG and lost to Kal in an impresive series 3-2 . At that time Bisu was barely used in PL when he was more needed to SKT , Stork could have sit out in PL and his team would still do decent , but he played he put samsung in the second spot he represented korea in WCG and he showed a decent series vs Kal . Where was Bisu at that time preparing for the very difficult series vs PvT disaster FBH .... At that time i would have had Free too above Bisu , because i give more credit to hard working people then someone who is over hyped . All i'm saying is that Bisu can't keep up with Stork's consistence .... Where the fuck was Bisu when Stork was everywhere and dominating ?? ? Don't talk about endurance in a single league , but look at all of the Pro scene . Even if Stork droped a few games he can do better then Bisu in multiple occasions and thus why deserves to be higher . Lets see how they do in GOM and PL before saying something as stupid as Bisu deserves to be higher then Stork based on nothing that Stork hasn't done already in the past few days . They aren't even equall in strength , everyone who is not a Bisu sucker or Stork hater can see that Stork is stronger all together . I don't really like neither Stork or BIsu . They both are boring , but at least Stork impresses me with consistance and the control he shows over the games he dominates . Free has been the best to watch , because he was winning PL almost by himself and his games are more exciting to watch . If someone can point out what did Bisu did more or better then Stork recently to deserve to be # 1 , because i have no idea .
I dont think consistence is the word. Consistency is never dropping a game to those below you, yet Stork dropped quite a bit of games against mediocre players compared to Bisu.
I think you mean to compare Stork's resilience to Bisu, or his ability to perform in top shape even when he was swamped with so many games to play. And this is a valid argument, I agree with you. However, if this is the ONLY argument for Stork, then I believe Bisu should be placed above him because of Bisu's consistency and the fact that he had to play his statistically weakest MU in both the semifinal and the final to win his MSL while Stork had to play his strongest MU in the final to win his OSL. His pvp games against Best were quite awesome, though. But in terms of more well-roundedness, Bisu has shown tested results that trumps that of Stork.
If there is any other argument in favor of Stork, then I'm all ears
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On November 23 2008 05:15 OneOther wrote: i see a legitimate case for putting bisu over stork, but as of right now, i think most of us can agree stork should stay at #1. losing two pl games isn't enough to negate what he was able to do in OSL and other pl games.
your fucking outta your mind if you think that, honestly. Just make a poll and see what people on TL actually think who should be No.1 on PR next month, thanks.
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you can argue all you want but after GOM classic is through Jaedong will be nr1 and flash nr2 or vice verca. K?
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On November 23 2008 07:29 AnOth3rDAy wrote: you can argue all you want but after GOM classic is through Jaedong will be nr1 and flash nr2 or vice verca. K? K, but only if you replace Jaedong with Boxer, and Flash with Boxer
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On November 23 2008 07:26 zhaoli86 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2008 05:15 OneOther wrote: i see a legitimate case for putting bisu over stork, but as of right now, i think most of us can agree stork should stay at #1. losing two pl games isn't enough to negate what he was able to do in OSL and other pl games. your fucking outta your mind if you think that, honestly. Just make a poll and see what people on TL actually think who should be No.1 on PR next month, thanks.
well, then Jd would be #1
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wow few of Stork fans here makes me :r
dont get me wrong i love Stork but like Dazed_spy mentioned " its not about why Stork should move down but why Bisu should move up "
Bisu just won his 3rd MSL making him the first protoss with golden badge and winning three MSL title. need to say more?!
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On November 23 2008 07:26 zhaoli86 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2008 05:15 OneOther wrote: i see a legitimate case for putting bisu over stork, but as of right now, i think most of us can agree stork should stay at #1. losing two pl games isn't enough to negate what he was able to do in OSL and other pl games. your fucking outta your mind if you think that, honestly. Just make a poll and see what people on TL actually think who should be No.1 on PR next month, thanks. no, you are out of your mind
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On November 23 2008 09:23 ambit!ous1 wrote: wow few of Stork fans here makes me :r
dont get me wrong i love Stork but like Dazed_spy mentioned " its not about why Stork should move down but why Bisu should move up "
Bisu just won his 3rd MSL making him the first protoss with golden badge and winning three MSL title. need to say more?! a third title doesnt somehow make his MSL performance better than Stork's OSL. Stork's OSL road was much, much tougher. we will give it some more time. If Bisu keeps playing well in PL while Stork loses a bit, then bisu will be #1.
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On November 23 2008 06:18 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2008 05:15 OneOther wrote: i see a legitimate case for putting bisu over stork, but as of right now, i think most of us can agree stork should stay at #1. losing two pl games isn't enough to negate what he was able to do in OSL and other pl games. How many times does it have to be said that the argement is not why Stork should move down but why Bisu should move up? Bisu has looked really really good, Stork has not looked like anything. He's played nothing. A case to be made that hes declined? Obviously not. A case to be made however that Bisu played extremely impressively, equally if not surpieror to what Stork did in incruit- and stork at the moment, when hes giving results is giving us the "fabulous" results of 2-1 orion. He hasn't declined, but it just cant be compared favorably to Bisu. stork's OSL was definitely superior to Bisu's MSL, no question about that. Bisu's MSL victory alone isn't enough to take over the #1 spot yet. However, as I said earlier, we will keep watching how they play. just not enough yet, calm down.
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On November 23 2008 06:12 Februarys wrote: To add on to Disciple's case, Bisu had to play his worst MU, PvT, to get #1 in this final. You could argue that Hwasin and FBH aren't the best TvPers but its better than Stork not facing ANY zerg to his journey to his OSL victory, and Stork's PvZ is less radiant than his PvP and PvT as we all know.
Stork's final was his best MU, PvT. Bisu's final was not his best MU, which is PvZ.
Stork already received 1 month of PR as #1. People say he lost to Kal in the MSL because he was busy preparing for the OSL Finals. Ok, thats a legitimate reason. But what about his loss verse Kal AFTER the finals? There's no valid reason for that Ah Februrarys is back with more bullshit than ever. You are ACTUALLY saying that Bisu beating Hwasin and FBH in PvT is more impressive than Stork beating Bisu and Best in PvP. ARE YOU JOKING?
Bisu has always raped Hwasin, and he did it again. Hwasin is mediocre at TvP. Sure, FBH improved his TvP but it's still long ways to go. Stork took down Bisu AND BEST in PvP. Argument stops here.
I rest my case here. Will watch how they keep playing and then we can decide. It's absolutely premature to give Bisu #1 just yet.
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On November 23 2008 07:25 p4fn2w wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2008 06:17 raga4ka wrote:On November 23 2008 05:26 disciple wrote:On November 23 2008 04:57 raga4ka wrote:On November 23 2008 04:11 theonemephisto wrote: I'd have to argue that Bisu "gambling" was pure skill and brilliance. Bisu has a better understanding of what goes through the other person's head than almost anyone. Even if he isn't the best mechanical player, he probably is one of the best Bo5 players currently because he doesn't play each game, he plays the other player over the series. Jangbi had no chance in a Bo5, especially in a match-up that heavily rewards playing the metagame.
But on the next PR, I'd say that you at least have to give serious consideration to putting Bisu over Stork. Stork hasn't done anything since the OSL, while Bisu has been owning. I wouldn't say that Bisu should definitely be over Stork, but I do think it's a fairly close call. It's basically back to the old debate about how to take into account last month's accomplishments.
But Bisu really is on fire. Just keep in mind that the PR isn't about someone "deserving" a certain rank or anything, it's about ranking players in the context of the players around them. Better understanding my ass he has .Even if he has Stork still beats him and Bisu still loses to terran players that are above the term "average" - yes Hwasin and FBH suck . Terran players most likely to run over Bisu - Flash , Mind Leta Fantasy (thought he is a newb ) , ForGG . I don't know what you saw brilliant in that series he had terrible control got lucky with the cheese and Bo win . Stork has faced top level competition all around and has been dominating fairly long all that Bisu did was beat TvP disasters FBH and Hwasin a good series vs Free and not that bad vs JangBI . Just spare all the lines and say you dont like Bisu. Jee... whatever KTY is doing its always not enough for ppl right you. None of Bisu's msl titles was easy to get, he was tested in all MU, beating most of the hot guys out there. His last triumph made no difference, just take a look at jangbi's record this season, free's recent accomplishments even FBH TvP stats from the last couple of months. Winning tournaments doesnt mean beating S class players all the way, and thats the hole point, to endure and to survive the competition. JangBi and free were worthy opponents for the Revolutionist, if flash forGG Leta and fantasy didnt made it to the finals maybe they are not that good actually I'm not saying he is a bad player i'm saying that Stork is better then him right now. Because i don't think that Bisu deserves to be over Stork . Daniel Lee pointed it out in one of their commentarys with Artosis that Bisu is selfish because he focuses an a league and doesn't care much about PL while at it . When Bisu was in MSL together with Stork . Stork was the backbone of the Samsung team in PL with one of the best records in PL.He was in the OSL final , represented Korea in WCG and lost to Kal in an impresive series 3-2 . At that time Bisu was barely used in PL when he was more needed to SKT , Stork could have sit out in PL and his team would still do decent , but he played he put samsung in the second spot he represented korea in WCG and he showed a decent series vs Kal . Where was Bisu at that time preparing for the very difficult series vs PvT disaster FBH .... At that time i would have had Free too above Bisu , because i give more credit to hard working people then someone who is over hyped . All i'm saying is that Bisu can't keep up with Stork's consistence .... Where the fuck was Bisu when Stork was everywhere and dominating ?? ? Don't talk about endurance in a single league , but look at all of the Pro scene . Even if Stork droped a few games he can do better then Bisu in multiple occasions and thus why deserves to be higher . Lets see how they do in GOM and PL before saying something as stupid as Bisu deserves to be higher then Stork based on nothing that Stork hasn't done already in the past few days . They aren't even equall in strength , everyone who is not a Bisu sucker or Stork hater can see that Stork is stronger all together . I don't really like neither Stork or BIsu . They both are boring , but at least Stork impresses me with consistance and the control he shows over the games he dominates . Free has been the best to watch , because he was winning PL almost by himself and his games are more exciting to watch . If someone can point out what did Bisu did more or better then Stork recently to deserve to be # 1 , because i have no idea . I dont think consistence is the word. Consistency is never dropping a game to those below you, yet Stork dropped quite a bit of games against mediocre players compared to Bisu. I think you mean to compare Stork's resilience to Bisu, or his ability to perform in top shape even when he was swamped with so many games to play. And this is a valid argument, I agree with you. However, if this is the ONLY argument for Stork, then I believe Bisu should be placed above him because of Bisu's consistency and the fact that he had to play his statistically weakest MU in both the semifinal and the final to win his MSL while Stork had to play his strongest MU in the final to win his OSL. His pvp games against Best were quite awesome, though. But in terms of more well-roundedness, Bisu has shown tested results that trumps that of Stork. If there is any other argument in favor of Stork, then I'm all ears
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To summarize all that stuff: Bisu's road to MSL was easier (don't even try to argue about this one please) than Stork's OSL. Which is why it's not enough to replace the #1 spot. However, if Bisu keeps raping in PL while Stork's pace drops, then yeah, KTY should be #1. I hope this makes sense to everyone.
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+ Show Spoiler + On November 23 2008 06:17 raga4ka wrote:On November 23 2008 05:26 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2008 04:57 raga4ka wrote:On November 23 2008 04:11 theonemephisto wrote: I'd have to argue that Bisu "gambling" was pure skill and brilliance. Bisu has a better understanding of what goes through the other person's head than almost anyone. Even if he isn't the best mechanical player, he probably is one of the best Bo5 players currently because he doesn't play each game, he plays the other player over the series. Jangbi had no chance in a Bo5, especially in a match-up that heavily rewards playing the metagame.
But on the next PR, I'd say that you at least have to give serious consideration to putting Bisu over Stork. Stork hasn't done anything since the OSL, while Bisu has been owning. I wouldn't say that Bisu should definitely be over Stork, but I do think it's a fairly close call. It's basically back to the old debate about how to take into account last month's accomplishments.
But Bisu really is on fire. Just keep in mind that the PR isn't about someone "deserving" a certain rank or anything, it's about ranking players in the context of the players around them. Better understanding my ass he has .Even if he has Stork still beats him and Bisu still loses to terran players that are above the term "average" - yes Hwasin and FBH suck . Terran players most likely to run over Bisu - Flash , Mind Leta Fantasy (thought he is a newb ) , ForGG . I don't know what you saw brilliant in that series he had terrible control got lucky with the cheese and Bo win . Stork has faced top level competition all around and has been dominating fairly long all that Bisu did was beat TvP disasters FBH and Hwasin a good series vs Free and not that bad vs JangBI . Just spare all the lines and say you dont like Bisu. Jee... whatever KTY is doing its always not enough for ppl right you. None of Bisu's msl titles was easy to get, he was tested in all MU, beating most of the hot guys out there. His last triumph made no difference, just take a look at jangbi's record this season, free's recent accomplishments even FBH TvP stats from the last couple of months. Winning tournaments doesnt mean beating S class players all the way, and thats the hole point, to endure and to survive the competition. JangBi and free were worthy opponents for the Revolutionist, if flash forGG Leta and fantasy didnt made it to the finals maybe they are not that good actually I'm not saying he is a bad player i'm saying that Stork is better then him right now. Because i don't think that Bisu deserves to be over Stork . Daniel Lee pointed it out in one of their commentarys with Artosis that Bisu is selfish because he focuses an a league and doesn't care much about PL while at it . When Bisu was in MSL together with Stork . Stork was the backbone of the Samsung team in PL with one of the best records in PL.He was in the OSL final , represented Korea in WCG and lost to Kal in an impresive series 3-2 . At that time Bisu was barely used in PL when he was more needed to SKT , Stork could have sit out in PL and his team would still do decent , but he played he put samsung in the second spot he represented korea in WCG and he showed a decent series vs Kal . Where was Bisu at that time preparing for the very difficult series vs PvT disaster FBH .... At that time i would have had Free too above Bisu , because i give more credit to hard working people then someone who is over hyped . All i'm saying is that Bisu can't keep up with Stork's consistence .... Where the fuck was Bisu when Stork was everywhere and dominating ?? ? Don't talk about endurance in a single league , but look at all of the Pro scene . Even if Stork droped a few games he can do better then Bisu in multiple occasions and thus why deserves to be higher . Lets see how they do in GOM and PL before saying something as stupid as Bisu deserves to be higher then Stork based on nothing that Stork hasn't done already in the past few days . They aren't even equall in strength , everyone who is not a Bisu sucker or Stork hater can see that Stork is stronger all together . I don't really like neither Stork or BIsu . They both are boring , but at least Stork impresses me with consistance and the control he shows over the games he dominates . Free has been the best to watch , because he was winning PL almost by himself and his games are more exciting to watch . If someone can point out what did Bisu did more or better then Stork recently to deserve to be # 1 , because i have no idea .
I think we have a small misunderstanding. I'm not claiming anywhere in my posts that Bisu should be rated higher than Stork in the next PR, in fact just a few posts ago I've said that Stork made no major mistake to drop out the top spot. I think your are misjudging Bisu's overall performance, not his current one. The polemic argument who is better Bisu or Stork began so long ago, it makes no sense to compare them any further.
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Btw Februarys, are you actually using Stork's loss to Kal against him? I thought it was you who strongly believes in "a player can't win every game." LOL. Or does that only apply to Jaedong? Seriously, go get lost. I enjoyed those days where you were banned and I didn't have to suffer through your incoherent nonsense. I hope it happens again soon.
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On November 23 2008 09:35 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2008 07:26 zhaoli86 wrote:On November 23 2008 05:15 OneOther wrote: i see a legitimate case for putting bisu over stork, but as of right now, i think most of us can agree stork should stay at #1. losing two pl games isn't enough to negate what he was able to do in OSL and other pl games. your fucking outta your mind if you think that, honestly. Just make a poll and see what people on TL actually think who should be No.1 on PR next month, thanks. no, you are out of your mind
Let me elaborate why you are out of your mind. Stork won the OSL, great. I'm not saying it's any less of an achievement than Bisu's MSL win. The final happened on Nov 1st and given the borderline position of that date, you made that the primary reason Stork was ranked No. 1 in October's PR, fine. As of November 1st, Stork is 4-4. In comparison, Bisu is 12-4. Stork is number 6 in ELO, and Bisu is number 1 right now.
Stork didn't have many chances to play televised game to prove himself or he's still the number 1 player in the world, fine. But using the very reason he was ranked the first last month to say he's fucking number 1 in November? You think people are really going to buy that? The bulk of the OSL happened in October anyways so the decision to put the Nov 1st final into a Oct PR is reasonable, but his play in Nov does not scream he's the No.1 player in the world, sorry. If you are saying it is allowed to use last month's achievement as a primary criterion in the PR then I guess you have a fundamentally flawed methodology. We have Kespa for that.
God can we get some reasonably competent people to write up the PR please.
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As long as these two baller tosses continue to go at it like back in the days of Boxer and Yellow, then I dont care who's number 1, I'll be happy .
ps: I always wondered... In what context of the players is the PR considering, anyways? I always thought the November PR ONLY considered games played in November, however I realized about half a year ago that this wasnt true. How far do we go back, and where is the line drawn?
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God can we get some reasonably competent people to write up the PR please.
Champions were always given credit in long term for their PR standing, just check out the PR after Bisu destroying savior some seasons ago- savior was still on the top of the chart the next month. The only exception from this unwritten rule was surprisingly Jaedong, who dropped the 1st place after his beating from forGG. But forGG was just too hot to be denied then. As for the PR writers I find them all quite competent and personally admire OneOthers efforts to be as neutral as possible.
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On November 23 2008 10:25 disciple wrote:Champions were always given credit in long term for their PR standing, just check out the PR after Bisu destroying savior some seasons ago- savior was still on the top of the chart the next month. The only exception from this unwritten rule was surprisingly Jaedong, who dropped the 1st place after his beating from forGG. But forGG was just too hot to be denied then. As for the PR writers I find them all quite competent and personally admire OneOthers efforts to be as neutral as possible. It was never an unwritten rule, it was murky waters. Savior won his OSL a few days before he lost to Bisu. In all games he was still looking the best. Bisu had a sloppy series against Light, a series of BO wins against RA, and a really good series against Savior. Besides that, he was a relative new comer with few games, and a shitty if non insignificant PL performance. There was a legitimate question over who was better.
Jaedong was dropped when FORGG raped him because Jaedong was shaky as hell right up until that point, FORGG was dropped straight after because his results THAT MONTH did not warrant he was still number one. His msl win THE PREVIOUS MONTH was not used to warrant he stay as number one the next month. Even though he was, like Jaedong, like Stork, Bisu, Savior, and Flash- a champion.
There is no god damn unwritten rule. Yes long term play has a place in the decision making process, or else this list would be ridiculously inaccurate. Yet you can not use something that is in the past and wholly irrelevant to this month to not only be the main reason, but the ONLY reason a player remains at the top.
One other, you are a biased douche, give this back to Fakesteve or someone remotely competent.*
*And no I am not saying this because you refuse to put Bisu at first; the month is not over, thats fine. I am saying that because you refuse out of hand, under the obviously biased assumption that Stork is better regardless of results. There is a difference between being hesitant, and blatantly ignoring reality. FS did it FAR too often with Sea, but Sea was not a top player so there was no injustice if he deserved 8th spot or 10th spot, this however IS important. If you can not do it right....leave.
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First of all, Bisu fanboys needs to realize that although this is a monthly ranking, it does not mean that we ONLY take into account this month's games. Otherwise we'd have lame one-hit wonders hitting the PR despite sucking the rest of their careers.
And blaming Stork for "not doing anything" recently is ludicrous. I mean, the guy just played gazillion games last month, and had to participate in the WCG earlier this month. Of course he hasn't done shit in the leagues since.
Anyway, taking into account this past season...
Stork has OSL win MSL Ro8 GOM Ro32(will change to Ro16 tonight unless upset happens) 6-3 PL record
Bisu has MSL win OSL Ro8 GOM Ro16 4-1 PL record
Basically, they're almost identical. So assuming Stork beats Keke in GOM, they would be the same except OSL slightly > MSL, and Stork 2-1 head-to-head vs. Bisu in OSL. And yes, that should result in Stork retaining his #1 ranking no matter how short a memory fanboys seem to have.
Of course, if Stork loses tonight in GOM, I take everything I said back.
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