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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 13 2008 11:54 GMT
#941
I hope Flash hits #1 and Jangbi gets #2 so we can try aiming for 2000 post count.
dats racist
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-13 12:02:48
December 13 2008 12:02 GMT
#942
forgg's description 3 months ago:
"Does this look odd to you? It sure looks odd to me. Odd doesn't even begin to cover the unreal boost in play fOrGG showed in July. Results are all well and good (and with an MSL win, I'm sure no one will disagree that he's got 'em in spades), but the real matter here is that no one played better StarCraft in July than fOrGG. Breaking out of his mould in a big way, fOrGG showed the world he's capable of so much more than making thirty thousand units and throwing them away. His games were dynamic, explosive, and most importantly, they were fucking brilliant StarCraft. Gotta give credit where it's due, there isn't a player in the world that came anywhere near fOrGG in July."

yes it is different because his wins were heavier since they came from MSL, but thwe fact remains that he was the best player that month. player of the month...

I think my arguements does hold. There is a difference between going 10-0 first and then losing game and going 10-0 and then keep winning games when you should make the PR. thats why i used flash's 17-3 record. Dont you agree that there is a difference?
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
December 13 2008 12:24 GMT
#943
Why not wait a one day more? Tomorrow Flash will play Stork and also Rock in GOM.

If Flash manage to beat Stork and then Rock in GOM, I believe he should take #2 spot. If he fails in any of this matchs, he shouldn't.

One day isn't a big deal...
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 13 2008 12:33 GMT
#944
On December 13 2008 21:24 adelarge wrote:
Why not wait a one day more? Tomorrow Flash will play Stork and also Rock in GOM.

If Flash manage to beat Stork and then Rock in GOM, I believe he should take #2 spot. If he fails in any of this matchs, he shouldn't.

One day isn't a big deal...

wow I just realized this is probably the toughest week for flash
dats racist
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-13 12:39:52
December 13 2008 12:37 GMT
#945
On December 13 2008 21:02 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
forgg's description 3 months ago:
"Does this look odd to you? It sure looks odd to me. Odd doesn't even begin to cover the unreal boost in play fOrGG showed in July. Results are all well and good (and with an MSL win, I'm sure no one will disagree that he's got 'em in spades), but the real matter here is that no one played better StarCraft in July than fOrGG. Breaking out of his mould in a big way, fOrGG showed the world he's capable of so much more than making thirty thousand units and throwing them away. His games were dynamic, explosive, and most importantly, they were fucking brilliant StarCraft. Gotta give credit where it's due, there isn't a player in the world that came anywhere near fOrGG in July."

yes it is different because his wins were heavier since they came from MSL, but thwe fact remains that he was the best player that month. player of the month...

I think my arguements does hold. There is a difference between going 10-0 first and then losing game and going 10-0 and then keep winning games when you should make the PR. thats why i used flash's 17-3 record. Dont you agree that there is a difference?

well well, how can u compare ForGG's performances in that month with flash in this month ?!?! omg
forgg won the MSL. He destroyed the #2 player 3-0. He had a very hard path, and dismantled all opposition. I mean wtf ?! what did flash do ? beat noobs. I AGREE FLASH PLAYS VERY GOOD but wth ?! u just can`t give this example

also:
On December 13 2008 20:54 MrHoon wrote:
I hope Flash hits #1 and Jangbi gets #2 so we can try aiming for 2000 post count.

LMAO, that would be strange or maybe another #1 spot for Sea...so all the "Romanians" could compain about it
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
December 13 2008 12:48 GMT
#946
I mean..how can u compare this:

ForGG beat kal and hero in the groups, than destroyed Sea, beat kal again in a Bo5, beat flash in a bo5, and then 3-0'd JD in the finals. This was ForGG's path in the MSL that he won.

Flash beat fantasy 3 times, and he then free ( we all knew what happened ) , and after that he lost to zero in the PL (that`s not a big deal since it`s PL, everyone loses from time to time...Zero was also hot) and then beat Pure, hyvaa, and Chalrenge, also in PL. Also he "managed" to take a #2 place in a group with Horang2, GGplay, and Dongrae. Excuse me, but that doesn`t sound impressive at all.
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
neotoss
Profile Joined January 2003
China217 Posts
December 13 2008 12:55 GMT
#947
On December 13 2008 04:05 OneOther wrote:
if it's not up by tomorrow, i'll write it.
holy shit almost 1000 comments

Hope you can hold your promise.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 13 2008 12:56 GMT
#948
Im going to agree with Jaeden here, but here is another thing Jaeden
So far, none of the "S Class" players were showing anything better than what Flash was showing now. Stork has been suffering from the OSL Curse, Jaedong dropped the ball this month (thank god he made it through OSL offline, I would've been so pissed of keke beat JD), Jangbi, well Jangbi is Jangbi, Free lost in a humiliating game and dropped OSL, Kal is one inconsistent motherfucker (like Kingdom) and BeSt lost a PvP and no MSL for him. The only reason why I didn't even mention Bisu is because he literally played NO GAMES.
dats racist
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-13 13:07:08
December 13 2008 13:06 GMT
#949
On December 13 2008 21:56 MrHoon wrote:
Im going to agree with Jaeden here, but here is another thing Jaeden
So far, none of the "S Class" players were showing anything better than what Flash was showing now. Stork has been suffering from the OSL Curse, Jaedong dropped the ball this month (thank god he made it through OSL offline, I would've been so pissed of keke beat JD), Jangbi, well Jangbi is Jangbi, Free lost in a humiliating game and dropped OSL, Kal is one inconsistent motherfucker (like Kingdom) and BeSt lost a PvP and no MSL for him. The only reason why I didn't even mention Bisu is because he literally played NO GAMES.

Yes, I am aware of that, I even wrote :
On December 13 2008 17:22 Jaeden wrote:
I`m sayin again: I agree, Flash is strong, he should be #3..or even #2 that doesn`t bother me

Bisu won the OSL in the last month so, a bo5 against free and against jangbi gotta count. Also he beat fakeyellow, calm, Reach(yeah, I know)

,and:
The only reason why I didn't even mention Bisu is because he literally played NO GAMES.

yes, I agree, at first, that was my argument that stork should be above bisu, coz even though stork lost some games, bisu didn`t play at all, but still, lookin` again at what I wrote above, I think #1 bisu is the perfect choice
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 13 2008 13:09 GMT
#950
On December 13 2008 22:06 Jaeden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2008 21:56 MrHoon wrote:
Im going to agree with Jaeden here, but here is another thing Jaeden
So far, none of the "S Class" players were showing anything better than what Flash was showing now. Stork has been suffering from the OSL Curse, Jaedong dropped the ball this month (thank god he made it through OSL offline, I would've been so pissed of keke beat JD), Jangbi, well Jangbi is Jangbi, Free lost in a humiliating game and dropped OSL, Kal is one inconsistent motherfucker (like Kingdom) and BeSt lost a PvP and no MSL for him. The only reason why I didn't even mention Bisu is because he literally played NO GAMES.

Yes, I am aware of that, I even wrote :
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2008 17:22 Jaeden wrote:
I`m sayin again: I agree, Flash is strong, he should be #3..or even #2 that doesn`t bother me

Bisu won the OSL in the last month so, a bo5 against free and against jangbi gotta count. Also he beat fakeyellow, calm, Reach(yeah, I know)

,and:
Show nested quote +
The only reason why I didn't even mention Bisu is because he literally played NO GAMES.

yes, I agree, at first, that was my argument that stork should be above bisu, coz even though stork lost some games, bisu didn`t play at all, but still, lookin` again at what I wrote above, I think #1 bisu is the perfect choice

Yeah I have nothing against flash being #3 or 4, or bisu being #1
trying to keep the conversation going, we just need to argue pointlessly 50 times more lol.
dats racist
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
December 13 2008 13:15 GMT
#951
On December 13 2008 22:09 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2008 22:06 Jaeden wrote:
On December 13 2008 21:56 MrHoon wrote:
Im going to agree with Jaeden here, but here is another thing Jaeden
So far, none of the "S Class" players were showing anything better than what Flash was showing now. Stork has been suffering from the OSL Curse, Jaedong dropped the ball this month (thank god he made it through OSL offline, I would've been so pissed of keke beat JD), Jangbi, well Jangbi is Jangbi, Free lost in a humiliating game and dropped OSL, Kal is one inconsistent motherfucker (like Kingdom) and BeSt lost a PvP and no MSL for him. The only reason why I didn't even mention Bisu is because he literally played NO GAMES.

Yes, I am aware of that, I even wrote :
On December 13 2008 17:22 Jaeden wrote:
I`m sayin again: I agree, Flash is strong, he should be #3..or even #2 that doesn`t bother me

Bisu won the OSL in the last month so, a bo5 against free and against jangbi gotta count. Also he beat fakeyellow, calm, Reach(yeah, I know)

,and:
The only reason why I didn't even mention Bisu is because he literally played NO GAMES.

yes, I agree, at first, that was my argument that stork should be above bisu, coz even though stork lost some games, bisu didn`t play at all, but still, lookin` again at what I wrote above, I think #1 bisu is the perfect choice

Yeah I have nothing against flash being #3 or 4, or bisu being #1
trying to keep the conversation going, we just need to argue pointlessly 50 times more lol.

LOL , quick everyone go ahead and post all ur desires, or ur predictions, anything, untill OneOther completes the PR
sorry but I have some work to do, can`t cooperate
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 13 2008 13:57 GMT
#952
my point was that its basically the player of the month rank...
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
December 13 2008 15:58 GMT
#953
On December 13 2008 22:57 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
my point was that its basically the player of the month rank...



did you read my post on the previous page? I think it covers mostly what's PR about, player of the month but sometimes you have to make exceptions and take into account games and series which were played earlier. i explained why, read if you care.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
December 13 2008 16:01 GMT
#954
On December 13 2008 22:57 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
my point was that its basically the player of the month rank...

oh right, I understood that Flash deserves a high spot, no doubt
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 13 2008 16:07 GMT
#955
On December 14 2008 00:58 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2008 22:57 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
my point was that its basically the player of the month rank...



did you read my post on the previous page? I think it covers mostly what's PR about, player of the month but sometimes you have to make exceptions and take into account games and series which were played earlier. i explained why, read if you care.


didnt understand the thing about red and black dots, was kinda confusing but i know basically what PR is about.. i just dont think Stork is playing that well lately.. so his PR hould fall.. flash is playing good lately so his PR should rise.

the ultimate PR should be who is the strongest player RIGHT NOW. but its hard to judge that...
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-13 16:12:53
December 13 2008 16:12 GMT
#956
On December 14 2008 01:07 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2008 00:58 Geo.Rion wrote:
On December 13 2008 22:57 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
my point was that its basically the player of the month rank...



did you read my post on the previous page? I think it covers mostly what's PR about, player of the month but sometimes you have to make exceptions and take into account games and series which were played earlier. i explained why, read if you care.


didnt understand the thing about red and black dots, was kinda confusing but i know basically what PR is about.. i just dont think Stork is playing that well lately.. so his PR hould fall.. flash is playing good lately so his PR should rise.

the ultimate PR should be who is the strongest player RIGHT NOW. but its hard to judge that...



i was using black/red points to make it more easy to understand. Epic fail. T.T
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
theonemephisto
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States409 Posts
December 13 2008 16:17 GMT
#957
Man this week sucks for Flash. Stork, Gom, Jaedong. I guess here is where we see if Flash can only beat up on mediocre players or if he's back in full-blown ultimate weapon mode.
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