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On November 17 2024 21:21 KT_Elwood wrote:"Fremdschämen" Result of chancellor Scholz having a talk with Putin (to increase his chances in upcomming election.. with undecided tankies in the socialdemocrat spectrum)
Or maybe the picture was the result of last weeks premier league results?
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Or maybe You shouldn't post crap when You don't have anything interesting to say? German foreign policy of enabling and collaborating with Russia has much more to do with this than results of football matches.
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If only this was 2 years ago. It's far far too late
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Honestly don't get the mass strikes today. Makes decision like this from Biden easier in the last weeks of his presidency. Putin could have kept it at the level of the last few months until his buddy gets the job in January.
Hubris from seeing some form of victory on the horizon?
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On November 18 2024 04:12 Excludos wrote: If only this was 2 years ago. It's far far too late
Its late, but far from to late.
On November 18 2024 04:15 zatic wrote: Honestly don't get the mass strikes today. Makes decision like this from Biden easier in the last weeks of his presidency. Putin could have kept it at the level of the last few months until his buddy gets the job in January.
Hubris from seeing some form of victory on the horizon?
Biden maybe had a monent of clarity from brainfog, either way. Very good news
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On November 18 2024 04:15 zatic wrote: Honestly don't get the mass strikes today. Makes decision like this from Biden easier in the last weeks of his presidency. Putin could have kept it at the level of the last few months until his buddy gets the job in January.
Hubris from seeing some form of victory on the horizon? Putin cannot wait until January if he hopes to wreck Ukrainian power grid. It will take multiple strike, targeting and reloading cycles taking weeks. Also it might make Trump look bad which could well annoy him.
Ironically decision to allow strikes into Russia takes away the last sick that Trump had on Russia. After campaigning on reducing aid he can hardly do a 180 and threaten to send another 100 billion $ worth of weapons.
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On November 18 2024 04:19 Kreuger wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2024 04:12 Excludos wrote: If only this was 2 years ago. It's far far too late Its late, but far from to late.
Realistically Ukraine have about 2 months until US support stops completely. I have zero faith in the rest of Europe to pick up the slack. We'll likely see the war end not soon after, and unfortunately I don't see it going in Ukraine's favour.
2 months is far too short to turn the tide of the war, even more so in the middle of winter.
We were 1 year away from something great. Fuck, and I can't say this with enough conviction, the traitorous piece of shit named Donald Trump, and every single person who voted for him. And fuck every other backbone-less leader in this awful goddamn world for sitting on their asses watching genocide happen in our neighborhood, because doing the right thing might have caused the prices of eggs to increase.
I am beyond disgusted, and I am beyond angry. So much suffering and pain, for one madman's whim, and everyone else's apathy.
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On November 18 2024 02:57 Silvanel wrote: Or maybe You shouldn't post crap when You don't have anything interesting to say? German foreign policy of enabling and collaborating with Russia has much more to do with this than results of football matches.
Agreed. Scholz doing Scholz things. Which usually is sitting out the problem until it blows over.
He is now under direct political pressure to release "taurus" because his vice-chancelor and opponent in the next election, Habeck just said that he will give Taurus to Ukraine asap after the election (cheap in his position tbh, but at least something)
US and UK have now lifted restrictions on medium range weapons afaik.
It would have been a stronger move to boldly announce this in unison, instead of one after another.. as with every UA support so far from the NATO countries.
On November 18 2024 04:15 zatic wrote: Honestly don't get the mass strikes today. Makes decision like this from Biden easier in the last weeks of his presidency. Putin could have kept it at the level of the last few months until his buddy gets the job in January.
Hubris from seeing some form of victory on the horizon?
Nah, Russia is working on "voter's war fatigue" and interprets the Trump win as strong message for the west to cut help for ukraine, and spent it.. on more comfort for their own populations.
50/50 a barrage sends a "see, how much it will cost US to fight THIS" message, instead of a "Fuck you Putler" message.
Also sending just a few drones/missles in smaller waves wouldn't overwhelm defenses.
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Abolutely no way Scholz is giving Taurus to Ukraine, not in the past and even less so today. Any qualitative change in German policy will have to wait until the next government.
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The SPD's love afair with Russia is sadly still not over. Merkel was too naive but the SPD still has this werid historic friendship with Russia.
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If Biden wanted to he could still secure Ukraine without escalation.
Domestic production of shells is now high enough that he could dump the entire remaining strategic stockpile of artillery shells in Europe. Probably 1-2 mn shells, if not more. Could set up a deal so the EU transfers them monthly to Ukraine but if there is a peace deal Ukraine agrees with they go back to the US. Could do the same for a lot of weapon systems.
Essentially just putting enough arms to carry Ukraine through another year would probably be enough for a fair peace agreement.
Won't happen but it *could* if there was a will for it.
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I really don't understand why wasting billions and billions on equipment in Afghanistan somehow was favorable for (R) and (D) politicians.. (because Taxpayermoney --> Defense Industry -- > Shareholder profit) and defending acutally liberty and democracy in UA somehow isn't.
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On November 18 2024 20:16 KT_Elwood wrote: I really don't understand why wasting billions and billions on equipment in Afghanistan somehow was favorable for (R) and (D) politicians.. (because Taxpayermoney --> Defense Industry -- > Shareholder profit) and defending acutally liberty and democracy in UA somehow isn't.
Because Afghanistan was before the R party was bought by Russia. This changed while the US was in Afghanistan and why Trump surrendered to the Taliban and signed the withdraw.
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I think this thread needs a timely reminder that anything less than Ukraine being turned into a Russian puppet state is a failure for Russia.
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https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/vladimir-shklyarov-death-st-petersburg-ballet-star-fall/
Another one. Such a free and lovely country. Just don't make any criticism to your dear leader, or it's the window for you! This isn't even a politician. Just a random civilian with a medium amount of followers because he dances ballet. So what was his extreme criticism that warranted murder?
“Friends! I am against the war in Ukraine!"
Yeah that'll do it.
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On November 18 2024 22:29 Excludos wrote:https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/vladimir-shklyarov-death-st-petersburg-ballet-star-fall/Another one. Such a free and lovely country. Just don't make any criticism to your dear leader, or it's the window for you! This isn't even a politician. Just a random civilian with a medium amount of followers because he dances ballet. So what was his extreme criticism that warranted murder? “Friends! I am against the war in Ukraine!" Yeah that'll do it. It says in the article he said that in 2022? If so, that's a weird timing for Putin to do something about that now.
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There is probably a pretty big backlog of assassinations at the KGB atm, can only do so many a month with the personel they got.
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There is also a lot of infighting among various factions inside Russia. Surly not all those deaths are related to Putin.
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