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digmouse
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darklycid
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Acrofales
Spain17677 Posts
On August 15 2024 21:48 darklycid wrote: Good Games in the winners bracket so far: game1 Oli vs Maru? Probably the only one worth watching unless you're a Zerg lover or a Protoss hater. Everything else has been utterly brutal. | ||
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Glorfindelio
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Fango
United Kingdom8967 Posts
Without Zest/Stats/Trap I don't see any protoss beating Serral in a series. Maybe Classic if he brought 5 snipe builds. | ||
Poopi
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Nasigil1
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Asha
United Kingdom38136 Posts
Good bounce back after yesterday's frustrating series vs Hero | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland22767 Posts
On August 15 2024 22:01 Nasigil1 wrote: Before their recent two series, I really thought herO could give Serral a tough fight. But it seems I still underestimated Serral, his play is just too flawless and leaves no hole at all. Look at how herO destroyed Solar and look entirely hopeless against Serral, it's wild how big the skill gap between the top Zerg is. I feel because top Zergs have had a good few years in the matchup that people kind of sleep on how masterful Serral is at it. You really see that more clearly now the matchup is seemingly better balanced overall for this level of play. Serral is still basically invincible, but other top tier players are capable of beating everyone else on the day. I’ve said it before, Serral’s ZvP may be the strongest single matchup we’ve seen in SC2’s history, who else is in that mix if we’re going all-time? Aside from being nigh-invincible at peak, I think I go with Serral’s ZvP because it’s been incredibly solid for so, so long now and through waxing and waning of form, different metas etc. Zest had perhaps a similar peak in PvP at one point, but for a much smaller span comparatively. Maru’s TvT was similarly ridiculous for a period, but he dropped off to merely ‘very bloody good’ with patch changes. Peak Innovation’s TvZ was brutal to behold too, but not over 5/6 years Just a few names I’m throwing into the mix, I imagine there’s plenty more! | ||
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Argonauta
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Argonauta
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On August 15 2024 22:39 WombaT wrote: I feel because top Zergs have had a good few years in the matchup that people kind of sleep on how masterful Serral is at it. You really see that more clearly now the matchup is seemingly better balanced overall for this level of play. Serral is still basically invincible, but other top tier players are capable of beating everyone else on the day. I’ve said it before, Serral’s ZvP may be the strongest single matchup we’ve seen in SC2’s history, who else is in that mix if we’re going all-time? Aside from being nigh-invincible at peak, I think I go with Serral’s ZvP because it’s been incredibly solid for so, so long now and through waxing and waning of form, different metas etc. Zest had perhaps a similar peak in PvP at one point, but for a much smaller span comparatively. Maru’s TvT was similarly ridiculous for a period, but he dropped off to merely ‘very bloody good’ with patch changes. Peak Innovation’s TvZ was brutal to behold too, but not over 5/6 years Just a few names I’m throwing into the mix, I imagine there’s plenty more! The only problem with your argument is the tiny toss pool that exists right now, making even harder for tosses to find a way. As for Maru, the pool of Terrans is way deeper for its TvT. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38136 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain17677 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland22767 Posts
On August 15 2024 22:43 Argonauta wrote: The only problem with your argument is the tiny toss pool that exists right now, making even harder for tosses to find a way. As for Maru, the pool of Terrans is way deeper for its TvT. The top, top Zerg pool isn’t that deep either, but yeah Toss are a little thin on the ground. I think what differentiates this rough epoch is that a top PvZer has a pretty even shot against most Zergs (that aren’t Serral). Even if that often is just herO Versus periods where basically any of the top 4 Zergs were generally just outright favoured against any Toss in the world I think we’re in a world where the balance is better in that matchup, but there’s just not enough top Toss players to actually take advantage of it. | ||
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kottbullar
Australia489 Posts
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Rob-Zero
Germany450 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38136 Posts
Feels like stifled creep spread and slower tech advancement for Reynor is putting this on a real knife edge | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7967 Posts
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EquilasH
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