On September 26 2020 10:06 JimmiC wrote: What is the average age of someone who dies from cancer? If we could stop it through masks and social distancing for a year until a vaccine came out you would think this was a bad idea?
Perhaps for those 65+, the death rate under that is negligible. There will be far higher rates of suicide, mental health issues, bankruptcies for those under 65 than before though due to the lockdowns and economic issues caused by them.
Pennsylvania The Democrats have an approximate 783,000 advantage in voter registration in the state. However, the margin is down from a 936,000 lead in 2016, when Trump carried the commonwealth.
The GOP’s gain in North Carolina is even larger than in Pennsylvania. In 2016, the Democrats held about a 646,000 registered-voter lead, according to statistics provided to The Western Journal by the Republican National Committee. That lead has dropped 216,000 to a 430,000-voter lead.
In Florida in 2016, Trump won by a little over a percentage point despite the Democrats having a 335,000-voter-registration lead at the time, the RNC determined.
That advantage has fallen to approximately 250,000.
Did you watch your video? It is not even about mail in ballots. It is about paper ballots compared to their machines and then the person brings out a study that shows hes wrong.
Pelosi taking a shot about Trumps honesty and mentioning the a possible impeachment before a big debate.... OMG WHAT?!?!?!? lol
The last time you guys really pushed the Biden senile story Biden gave a speech and went way up because he blew the very low expectations out of the water. Maybe it will work out better this time, I doubt it.
How could the US excess mortality from COVID-19 be roughly 250,000 if only 6% of 200000 (12000) died from COVID-19?. Also, the 6% you are talking about is the percentage of those who died without co-morbidities (basically healthy people). Unfortunately, almost half the US population has common co-morbidities like heart disease, COPD, asthma, cancer, hypertension, diabetes and etc that worsen COVID-19 outcomes so there is hardly any solace to be found from your figures anyway.
40% of US deaths were people in nursing homes and of those half were from 5 democratic states where their governors sent COVID patients back into those nursing homes. Figure so far is on the low end of estimates made back in March but would be lower if not for bad decisions made at state level.
You do that discarded and voter fraud are not at all the same thing correct? It is also funny that you talk about diversion since I'm responding to your points unrelated to my post.
It is also funny to me that you seem to think Trump is right that it's a flu to not scared of, but also Trump is wrong that it is at least 5x deadlier.
You also seem to be ignoring that cases who don't die matter because of life.long consequences last number I heard was 8x higher than deaths so 1.6 million and according to many including the ceo quoted above not good.
With this new found respect for mental health and its dangerous im sure we will see some support for those who need it from this or all the mixed messages.
In semi related news how are you dealing with being overrun from dangerous caravans from the south? I notice no wall but don't hear about this emergency need any more? I'm sure whatever Trump is talking about today is also the truth like it has been and it is smart to continue to listen to him.
I guess when you have no back up for "facts" you drop to that level. Also some strange choices of people. For example Bloomberg is no friend to most dems and certainly not the left. He is a piece of shit who is beholden to China. Basically he is even less a Dem then Trump was a Rep. Thank God even with his way way more money spent he never won. Trump vs Bloomberg might have been some apocalypticly bad shit, I don't even know who would have a bigger stack of secrets hidden within NDAs 😅
Anyone aware of the timeline of events? Trump having to fence of a ravenous impeachment.. orchestrated by his opposition, in transparently ravenous desperation.
Nancy pelosi urging people to visit China town in spiteful retort to his travel restriction ban. And other counter-productive discord created on purpose.
Ps. Not that China town be inherently risky, it was just the notion. Also did you see her falter and restart an interview midway through this week? What the hell
Also.. Be advised of the misinformation campaign that's attempting to render president Trump untrustworthy, saying he lied about the virus.
Can you imagine what would've happened if in a single stroke he'd announced there's an airborne virus of unknown affinity.. that's contagious and possibly fatal.
The people.. all types, Survivalists, looters, religious folk would've gone crazy..
To the host of this post. I admire your procedure and effort taken..
But until I see an itemized list of those dead victims. What age, present ailments, lifestyle.. above all a damning certainty the death was this virus.. I reckon speculation and analysis be hopeless.
And finally.. to anyone here present clinging to the flimsy narrative that Trump administration failed or messed up, It would be appearing in full onslaught and Kayleigh Mcenany would be recieving a barrage of harmful questions, impossible to withstand.
And yet.. she does. And the questions take the form of nothing more than unseasonably bothersome flies
Do you believe this fact fiction? Other countries were way, way ,way more honest and none of what you said happened. In fact they out preformed and still out preformed. There is little evidence that anything Trump did helped and loads of it that what he did caused great harm.
The fandom around a politician to rewrite recent history in his favor is such a strange concept to me. Most places hold their politicians accountable not cheer them for lying and failing lol.
President Trump is a profoundly excellent man. Make no mistake, he will go down in history as the greatest president of the USA for many centuries after.
He believes in liberty, in its proper burning right.. not the current brand of aggressive, false-humanitarian Liberalism enforced by these enlightened progressive folk.
Trump is inherently left wing.
I know something is up when I'm hearing from 3 different people - innately liberal in their personality - the measurable affects of His administration, via email online.. and I'm also hearing about their outrage of comedians like Trevor Noah, John Oliver.. who are instrumental in producing complete lies. Not even unequivocal lies..
ashamedly Trevor noah is from my country, south Africa.. and he's Speaking deceptively on behalf of things that don't concern him!
Oh my heavenly hat.. It's all documented. Go summon forth the White House press secretary briefings!
Infront of an official audience Kayleigh Mcenany.. and countless other YouTube profiles, displayed the footage. To you really think vested reporters would leave that confabulation unchallenged?
Must I find the link and post it? Or will the low resolution settings of the lense on your beer goggles hinder you from screening it!?
The impeachment was happening and overlapping with the incipient virus. And all based on a bogus lie
Or you can navigate to an archived transcript of the delivery and read it.
And the fact that pelosi urged people to visit China town in defiance of Trumps travel ban.. is heard so many times. There are articles revealing she deleted her China town Twitter post.
Unless your reply is trying to apply history alterations 1984 style.. The evidence is pretty voluminous! And damning!
On September 28 2020 01:19 JimmiC wrote: thanks for the laughs!
JimmiC I just want to thank you for being a breath of fresh air and having the patience and energy to engage with this thread through these three pages. I enjoyed reading your perspective and takes and it was nice to see rational points defended calmly and intelligently.
It has been troubling engaging with a lot of this subject matter for me simply due to a saturation of hostile discourse in my world, so thanks for being a reminder that not everywhere is crazy. It was nice reading a beacon of how conversations can be.
Rare kind words much appreciated. I was hoping some would find it interesting and maybe some would counter with different data. But in the Trump era it is make up your own, strawman the argument, move the goalposts and if the does not work turn on the insults.
I'm not sure why its popular to do so because the double talk just end up making people look like they don't understand or can't. But at some point insulting online became "badass" when really it is spoiled tantrum time. Also, not saying that about everyone but more then a few!
@AttackZerg thanks good link, shows a different analysis on the governors and also that just like in March when Trump was claiming it was over, it is still not!
These odd attempts at virtue signalling from the early days have been largely forgotten. Recall when democrats blasted Trump as racist for banning travel from China back on Jan 31st. Fact is Trump did that and then allowed states to choose their own response to the virus, because a harsh national response from Trump would have led to calls of dictator, fascist etc.
Also should note, the virtue signalling was also very prevalent in Europe during that time, in fact a couple of days after Trump banned people flying in from China the mayor of Florence, Italy, advised locals to 'hug a Chinese person'. It sounds odd in these days of social distancing and masks but true it was.
Lots of mistakes were made, what makes Trump extraordinary is not that he got everything wrong or right early. It is that now months and months later he is still getting so.much wrong. And more than that, he is actively disagreeing with and undermining his own medical experts. Based.on his gut!
If you are going to continue to argue against an argument I'm not making hit up the Covid thread or maybe make your own Blog about what a wonderful job he's doing and why. It seems to be a story you want to tell and since you don't believe in data you can just write from you gut. I think it will be wonderful! Good luck.
I wasn't making an argument in the prior post, i was replying to another commentator agreeing with his statements.
I've seen the data from the CDC, i continue to make the claim the 'cure' is worse than the virus itself.But we will have to see what happens in 2021 when the economic issues arising from the lockdowns and the total shutdown of sectors of the economy like tourism/entertainment really hit home.Really hoping suicides don't spike as much as feared.
CDC’s new IFR survivability estimates after contracting the virus are broken down by age as part of the agency’s “COVID-19 Pandemic Planning Scenarios” are as follows:
0-19 years old survivability rate is 99.997% 20-49 years old survivability rate is 99.98% 50-69 years old survivability rate is 99.5% 70 years old or older survivability rate is 94.6%
To put that in a different perspective the CDC’s new estimate for the death rate after contracting COVID-19 by age are:
0-19 years old death rate is .003% 20-49 years old death rate is .02% 50-69 years old death rate is .5%% 70 years old or older death rate is 5.4%
If only you had the ability to respond to the posts that point out the flaws in your logic instead of sort of agreeing with troll posts with other misinformation.
Multiple people have responded to your silly death rate posts.