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On June 24 2019 17:32 Jockmcplop wrote:Been reading Trfel's filter, its super weird already. Like, the intention behind the posts seems townie, kinda flailing around loking for bits to grab a hold of, but the wording is suspicious. Lots of maybes and questions like 'do you guys agree?' and also the 'We can talk about something else if you want' thing. This is a particularly mafia-esque way of phrasing a suspicion, for example.
If I recall correctly, I was suspicious of Trfel last game I played with him for the exact same reason. He ended up being town. I think it's just how he posts
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Strong town reads: Jock, Holyflare
Slight Town Reads: Eywa, Eversince
Slight mafia reads: Rayn, KelsierSC
Null: Everyone else.
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On June 24 2019 19:52 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 17:32 Jockmcplop wrote:Been reading Trfel's filter, its super weird already. Like, the intention behind the posts seems townie, kinda flailing around loking for bits to grab a hold of, but the wording is suspicious. Lots of maybes and questions like 'do you guys agree?' and also the 'We can talk about something else if you want' thing.
Does anyone find Eversince's reaction interesting?
This is a particularly mafia-esque way of phrasing a suspicion, for example. If I recall correctly, I was suspicious of Trfel last game I played with him for the exact same reason. He ended up being town. I think it's just how he posts
Yes I suspected as much. I think I remember something about that from End Of the World Mafia.
I agree about Kelsier. He disappeared at a strange time too and left a big question mark hanging over his head in my opinion. I didn't want to push too hard on it until someone else said something.
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Pandain where is your scumlean on rayn coming from?
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Honestly make it a null. It was dumb host-related reasons. I just thought maybe mods would try to balance rayn vs HF or something like that, but it's way too speculative.
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Ahh fair enough. I'm not really going for that kind of speculation early on myself since the rayn thing in the last game totally ruined my life for a day or so.
Voting keslier until he comes back and does something better or answers my question about why he over-exaggerated his reaction to my grack post.
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That thing about jock will never ever make kelsier mafia.
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On June 24 2019 15:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
Trfel is behaving a bit strangely, flailing around for reads very early, but its NAI.
On June 24 2019 17:17 Jockmcplop wrote:
No-one looks particuarly town to me. Maybe trfel.
On June 24 2019 17:32 Jockmcplop wrote:Been reading Trfel's filter, its super weird already. Like, the intention behind the posts seems townie, kinda flailing around loking for bits to grab a hold of, but the wording is suspicious. Lots of maybes and questions like 'do you guys agree?' and also the 'We can talk about something else if you want' thing. This is a particularly mafia-esque way of phrasing a suspicion, for example.
What happens between here that your mind changes twice?
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On June 24 2019 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 15:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
Trfel is behaving a bit strangely, flailing around for reads very early, but its NAI.
Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 17:17 Jockmcplop wrote:
No-one looks particuarly town to me. Maybe trfel.
Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 17:32 Jockmcplop wrote:Been reading Trfel's filter, its super weird already. Like, the intention behind the posts seems townie, kinda flailing around loking for bits to grab a hold of, but the wording is suspicious. Lots of maybes and questions like 'do you guys agree?' and also the 'We can talk about something else if you want' thing.
Does anyone find Eversince's reaction interesting?
This is a particularly mafia-esque way of phrasing a suspicion, for example. What happens between here that your mind changes twice?
I read his filter.
I didn't really change my mind twice.
My initial impression was that he seemed townie because the intention behind his posts seemed townie and he seemed to be looking for mafia.
When I looked through his filter a bit more closely and noticed the wording I then found it strange.
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On June 24 2019 12:08 Trfel wrote:
Someone do something interesting please?
Does anyone find Eversince's reaction interesting? From posting fairly often and being active, once she started being under suspicion she changed her play and hasn't been present as much, didn't even respond to Shapelog or try and start a discussion with the new posters.
I really don't like this post from trfel at all. Everything in the bold is just wrong.
Eversince did respond to me about my post (see French pirate post), and also responded afterwards when I asked her on opinions on people in the game at that time. Eversince also was still active after that time and spoke to a new poster (saying hey to Pandain). Then right afterwards when Eversince responds he admits that the "sample size was extremely small", but does not formally drop the read at that point. He fires another bullet at eversince then later about the town lean on me before he back away from Eversince.
I find it odd how technical and misconstruing he was towards Eversince. I dont get how you someone can read the thread at that time and genuinely post the quoted post above from trfel.
Thoughts?
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I really dont understand Kels post either. His follow up discussion with jock is equally bad. It feels like someone trying to shove their big, meaty read down someone's throat.
On June 24 2019 17:03 Eversince wrote:
I think Kels is hung out as much because you bold and capped it. It seemed way more emphasized than normal.
Typically when someone does something like that it's for comedic effect. Ask me how I know.
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You're going to make a lot of mistakes if you pick stuff you think are wrong or you dont understand and call them mafia. Or youre mafia.
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On June 24 2019 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You're going to make a lot of mistakes if you pick stuff you think are wrong or you dont understand and call them mafia. Or youre mafia.
I know you're talking to Shapelog but the main reason I personally voted for KelsierSC is that he disappeared mid conversation without answering questions and didn't come back.
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well truth to be told at first glance your post looked like exactly what Kelsier said to me too.
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On June 24 2019 23:03 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 12:08 Trfel wrote:
Someone do something interesting please?
Does anyone find Eversince's reaction interesting? From posting fairly often and being active, once she started being under suspicion she changed her play and hasn't been present as much, didn't even respond to Shapelog or try and start a discussion with the new posters. I really don't like this post from trfel at all. Everything in the bold is just wrong. Eversince did respond to me about my post (see French pirate post), and also responded afterwards when I asked her on opinions on people in the game at that time. Eversince also was still active after that time and spoke to a new poster (saying hey to Pandain). Then right afterwards when Eversince responds he admits that the "sample size was extremely small", but does not formally drop the read at that point. He fires another bullet at eversince then later about the town lean on me before he back away from Eversince. I find it odd how technical and misconstruing he was towards Eversince. I dont get how you someone can read the thread at that time and genuinely post the quoted post above from trfel. Thoughts?
I don't like the wording of the post.
The content... it seems like he's making a stretch but its not something I would put beyond a townie trying to get some traction out of a boring day 1.
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not the "he will have reads" sentence but the other one.
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On June 24 2019 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
not the "he will have reads" sentence but the other one.
I don't really understand what you mean. What exactly do you agree with Kels about?
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On June 24 2019 23:03 Shapelog wrote:
I find it odd how technical and misconstruing he was towards Eversince. I dont get how you someone can read the thread at that time and genuinely post the quoted post above from trfel.
Let's say Shapelog is correct and this is actually true and Trfel is mafia. Trfel as mafia clearly knows this as well right? He has to since he is making a bullshit case he knows is incorrect. Why does Trfel make that case in the first place? Like a case that's based on pure lying and misconstruing. It doesn't make any sense at all because you're just... well instantly caught.
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On June 24 2019 23:24 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
not the "he will have reads" sentence but the other one. I don't really understand what you mean. What exactly do you agree with Kels about?
I agree with him that your post about grack after holyflare looked like what he said originally said. Well i wouldn't say you tried to "bury" him but it sure looked like a scumread and that you're just hopping on board with HF. Not so much when you continued talking about it with him, but first for sure.
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On June 24 2019 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You're going to make a lot of mistakes if you pick stuff you think are wrong or you dont understand and call them mafia. Or youre mafia.
Are you talking about the trfel post or the Kel post?
Kel is in the same place of Ewya for me as in I want them to post more and go from there.
My biggest concern with trfel isnt that his post was filled with incorrect information; it's that it appears he fabrication reasons to push onto Eversince rather than natural progression. He has already down it twice where he says something bad about eversince, discusses it a bit, and eventually backpedals out of his questioning. That is why it feels scummy to me. It feels as if he is trying to set up a potential lynch.
In fact, @trfel, what is your actual read now on Eversince given everything?
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