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On May 21 2019 00:00 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 23:54 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 23:53 wherebugsgo wrote: conversion I support you and would like to invite you to my town circle What's conversion done to make you think he's town? his tone, and that he's one of the very few people in this game who has kept their eye on the prize and forced the conversation back to the lynch target of choice. what was your read on jock again? i think he was in your town circle? cause he is doing the exact opposite of that imo.
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On May 21 2019 00:00 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 23:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 23:55 Conversion wrote: The only thing I'd comment on is that I do not think Jock is mafia, and I think he is even less mafia if disfo flips mafia. either that or Jock made a huge misstep in poorly defending disformation I've not really tried to defend disfo as far as i remember. I jsut think you are more likely to be mafia form what i've read so far. Doesn't mean I think disfo is town. I'm going to make one comment to you, and then ignore you for the rest of the day. reasons why are below: 1) you are stumbling trying to make points on different people, and you are misconstruing a lot of people's stances. 2) I have 0 idea why you think me pushing of disformation is more scummy than me when he still has not posted anything on what he thinks the relative state of the game is
and again
anyway Calix & Jock you should consolidate because we're not lynching Conversion today. Also Jock just FYI that I read you as town and I think your intentions seem good but if you continue doing what you've been doing I think you're eventually going to get lynched because you post a lot without thinking through the consequences.
For instance, what is the purpose of attacking VE if you're trying to convince people that Conversion is scum? It dilutes the point of your message and makes people less likely to listen to you, especially if your points are off the mark. I know this cause I suffer from it a lot myself :p
with that said you should vote ruxxar because he's the best lynch
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On May 21 2019 00:02 Jockmcplop wrote: Y'know your the second person in here to say they're gonna ignore me (koshi backed off that quickly tho) but that genuinely makes you look like scum.
so tell me why disformation IGNORING ME FOR THE PAST 40 PAGES NOT MAKE HIM SCUM
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On May 21 2019 00:04 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:03 Calix wrote:On May 21 2019 00:00 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:58 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:57 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:56 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:54 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:53 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:51 Conversion wrote: disfo what is your state of the game right now? literally all I'm seeing is you prodding things and 0 conclusive anythings
who do you watn to lynch? do you agree with bugs and we should lynch ruxxar? what about jock's point on me? anything? I shall pose similar questions to you since I don't know your thoughts on many of the players. What other reads do you have that you have SOME confidence in? I don't need thoughts on other players, I have caught scum in disformation and am currently meta diving him. I invite you to join me and lynch scum with fire I'm currently voting for you, lol. So I'm not letting you off the hook with "woo, free tunnel on disfo" m8 I don't care about your vote tbh I have 24+ hours to convince people to lynch scum, not play nice with town You can say that but it won't hide the "lack of other substantial reads outside of scum!disfo", friend. But thanks for admitting I'm town the town was an address to a larger group.. I'd like to think you're a bit smarter than trying to nitpick on semantics, Calix ITT: Mafia!Conversion repeatedly refuses to give any other substantial reads, prefers to make a forced tunnel on disformation and use horrible pre-flip association 'reads' which say literally nothing since they're pre-flip. ITT: Calix piggybacks off someone's scum read and then does nothing but tunnel in on to Conversion, and instead of working to convince other people that I am scum, is happily shit-flinging the thread and not entertaining other ideas I can make you sound like mafia too
But do you think I'm mafia?
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On May 21 2019 00:05 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:00 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 23:54 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 23:53 wherebugsgo wrote: conversion I support you and would like to invite you to my town circle What's conversion done to make you think he's town? his tone, and that he's one of the very few people in this game who has kept their eye on the prize and forced the conversation back to the lynch target of choice. what was your read on jock again? i think he was in your town circle? cause he is doing the exact opposite of that imo.
he's town. If you think scum Jock would randomly start attacking VE and bring all sorts of attention to himself in the process, at a time where the thread has already gone to shit and all he'd have to do is sit back, then I don't know what to tell you.
In this situation what I expect a lot of scum to do is to put up token resistance if suspected and then disappear. That's exactly what ruxxar did.
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On May 21 2019 00:05 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:00 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 23:55 Conversion wrote: The only thing I'd comment on is that I do not think Jock is mafia, and I think he is even less mafia if disfo flips mafia. either that or Jock made a huge misstep in poorly defending disformation I've not really tried to defend disfo as far as i remember. I jsut think you are more likely to be mafia form what i've read so far. Doesn't mean I think disfo is town. I'm going to make one comment to you, and then ignore you for the rest of the day. reasons why are below: 1) you are stumbling trying to make points on different people, and you are misconstruing a lot of people's stances. 2) I have 0 idea why you think me pushing of disformation is more scummy than me when he still has not posted anything on what he thinks the relative state of the game is and again anyway Calix & Jock you should consolidate because we're not lynching Conversion today. Also Jock just FYI that I read you as town and I think your intentions seem good but if you continue doing what you've been doing I think you're eventually going to get lynched because you post a lot without thinking through the consequences. For instance, what is the purpose of attacking VE if you're trying to convince people that Conversion is scum? It dilutes the point of your message and makes people less likely to listen to you, especially if your points are off the mark. I know this cause I suffer from it a lot myself :p with that said you should vote ruxxar because he's the best lynch
Yeah that's a fair point to be honest. I'm trying to contribute as much as I can to the thread but I can see why it comes off as unfocused. Its day 1 though, so I'm kinda flailing around a bit trying to get the lay of the land.
Who do you think I should consolidate on to? I could go for a ruxxar lynch or even disinfo at a push, but I'd rather lynch conversion given the choice.
What makes you think 'we're not lynching conversion today'?
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On May 21 2019 00:05 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:04 Conversion wrote:On May 21 2019 00:03 Calix wrote:On May 21 2019 00:00 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:58 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:57 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:56 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:54 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:53 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:51 Conversion wrote: disfo what is your state of the game right now? literally all I'm seeing is you prodding things and 0 conclusive anythings
who do you watn to lynch? do you agree with bugs and we should lynch ruxxar? what about jock's point on me? anything? I shall pose similar questions to you since I don't know your thoughts on many of the players. What other reads do you have that you have SOME confidence in? I don't need thoughts on other players, I have caught scum in disformation and am currently meta diving him. I invite you to join me and lynch scum with fire I'm currently voting for you, lol. So I'm not letting you off the hook with "woo, free tunnel on disfo" m8 I don't care about your vote tbh I have 24+ hours to convince people to lynch scum, not play nice with town You can say that but it won't hide the "lack of other substantial reads outside of scum!disfo", friend. But thanks for admitting I'm town the town was an address to a larger group.. I'd like to think you're a bit smarter than trying to nitpick on semantics, Calix ITT: Mafia!Conversion repeatedly refuses to give any other substantial reads, prefers to make a forced tunnel on disformation and use horrible pre-flip association 'reads' which say literally nothing since they're pre-flip. ITT: Calix piggybacks off someone's scum read and then does nothing but tunnel in on to Conversion, and instead of working to convince other people that I am scum, is happily shit-flinging the thread and not entertaining other ideas I can make you sound like mafia too But do you think I'm mafia?
roll a d20 and add your deception bonus. if you beat a 9, then you can be whatever you want
Roll(1d20)+0: 9,+0 Total
if you want an actual opinion, I think the thread ramped up against you really quickly and also died really quickly. not sure what to make of that, but disfo needs to die today and then I'll look into who defended you/who pushed you and fell flat and moved elsewhere
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but again, not really focused anywhere else and if that makes me scum then so be it
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On May 21 2019 00:05 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:02 Jockmcplop wrote: Y'know your the second person in here to say they're gonna ignore me (koshi backed off that quickly tho) but that genuinely makes you look like scum. so tell me why disformation IGNORING ME FOR THE PAST 40 PAGES NOT MAKE HIM SCUM i mentioned you here:
On May 20 2019 18:39 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote: List of shit because I want to.
Town reads VE HF (god help me)
Mafia reads Ruxxar Calix Disinformation
Null Everyone else where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.- What is your read on Jock? And what do you think of Conversion coming in and calling you flaky? flaky is a new one. usually people say things like "waffly" "unoriginal" "no reads" etc. And I don't think I did a lot of stuff in this game so far so *shrugs*. is basically my play style so I suspect he is going to scum read me a lot? interested to see if he follows up on the meta though. jock is complicated for me atm. will do a post after lunch to explain. Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 16:58 Koshi wrote: I also ignore jock his posts. Which is dangerous but w.e highway to the danger zone right into the danger zone great now i have an ear worm still waiting for the meta.
On May 21 2019 00:07 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:05 disformation wrote:On May 21 2019 00:00 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 23:54 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 23:53 wherebugsgo wrote: conversion I support you and would like to invite you to my town circle What's conversion done to make you think he's town? his tone, and that he's one of the very few people in this game who has kept their eye on the prize and forced the conversation back to the lynch target of choice. what was your read on jock again? i think he was in your town circle? cause he is doing the exact opposite of that imo. he's town. If you think scum Jock would randomly start attacking VE and bring all sorts of attention to himself in the process, at a time where the thread has already gone to shit and all he'd have to do is sit back, then I don't know what to tell you. In this situation what I expect a lot of scum to do is to put up token resistance if suspected and then disappear. That's exactly what ruxxar did. aight fair point. was noting earlier that jock was digging into a lot low effort targets, but not "big names". him digging at VE would subvert that. sounds indeed unlikely.
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On May 21 2019 00:05 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:02 Jockmcplop wrote: Y'know your the second person in here to say they're gonna ignore me (koshi backed off that quickly tho) but that genuinely makes you look like scum. so tell me why disformation IGNORING ME FOR THE PAST 40 PAGES NOT MAKE HIM SCUM
I didn't notice that disfo was ignoring you. That kind of thing is not easy to spot. I'll check his filter again for this when I get home from work in about an hour (or when I've watched Game of Thrones after that).
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K, D&D nerd.
I'm not impressed but I've made my point and pushing it further won't accomplish anything productive. I'll wait for whatever it is you're doing on disformation.
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On May 21 2019 00:09 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:05 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 00:00 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 23:55 Conversion wrote: The only thing I'd comment on is that I do not think Jock is mafia, and I think he is even less mafia if disfo flips mafia. either that or Jock made a huge misstep in poorly defending disformation I've not really tried to defend disfo as far as i remember. I jsut think you are more likely to be mafia form what i've read so far. Doesn't mean I think disfo is town. I'm going to make one comment to you, and then ignore you for the rest of the day. reasons why are below: 1) you are stumbling trying to make points on different people, and you are misconstruing a lot of people's stances. 2) I have 0 idea why you think me pushing of disformation is more scummy than me when he still has not posted anything on what he thinks the relative state of the game is and again anyway Calix & Jock you should consolidate because we're not lynching Conversion today. Also Jock just FYI that I read you as town and I think your intentions seem good but if you continue doing what you've been doing I think you're eventually going to get lynched because you post a lot without thinking through the consequences. For instance, what is the purpose of attacking VE if you're trying to convince people that Conversion is scum? It dilutes the point of your message and makes people less likely to listen to you, especially if your points are off the mark. I know this cause I suffer from it a lot myself :p with that said you should vote ruxxar because he's the best lynch Yeah that's a fair point to be honest. I'm trying to contribute as much as I can to the thread but I can see why it comes off as unfocused. Its day 1 though, so I'm kinda flailing around a bit trying to get the lay of the land. Who do you think I should consolidate on to? I could go for a ruxxar lynch or even disinfo at a push, but I'd rather lynch conversion given the choice. What makes you think 'we're not lynching conversion today'?
we're not lynching conversion because 1. his responses of frustration have seemed fairly genuine, 2. despite being attacked he continues to push his lynch of choice in a way that is consistent with him being town, and 3. he has made observations that I think scum would not bother making, such as this one:
On May 20 2019 08:34 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:58 Holyflare wrote: If I had to rate people based on being robotic I'd probably have a list of:
Calix iGrok Bugs
Then there's just like:
Koshi Conversion Disfo(???? maybe not ????)
probably a good list for day 1 to look at tbh koshi literally has no posts and lazily plays all the time why is he on the list
This of course doesn't eliminate the possibility he's scum, just that I think it makes it less likely than several other players. Day 1 tends to be a crapshoot so I think having high confidence is key. If a player has several points in favour of them being town, I think they make a bad day 1 lynch.
Similarly, by those same metrics ruxxar is the best lynch, because there are no town points in his favour; e.g. there is no indication that he is trying to figure out the game nor actually get his target lynched, and there are good reasons already mentioned to consider him scum.
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ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying. im home now so i can answer any questions you have.
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fuck flood control...
@ conv: i think also wanted to know if you think jock is pants on head town or scum from your pov.
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On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote: ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying. im home now so i can answer any questions you have.
On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote: I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1” Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours. It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth.
Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though.
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I'm off to bed now. ruxxar's come back so hopefully he can clear up his alignment for us. I'm not hopeful either way
On May 21 2019 00:21 disformation wrote: fuck flood control...
@ conv: i think also wanted to know if you think jock is pants on head town or scum from your pov.
btw do you intend on providing any opinions or only asking questions this game?
What player would you kill right now and why?
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On May 21 2019 00:25 wherebugsgo wrote:I'm off to bed now. ruxxar's come back so hopefully he can clear up his alignment for us. I'm not hopeful either way Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:21 disformation wrote: fuck flood control...
@ conv: i think also wanted to know if you think jock is pants on head town or scum from your pov.
btw do you intend on providing any opinions or only asking questions this game? What player would you kill right now and why? opinions are totally overrated
i acutally like your posts on ruxxar (as i mentioned like a few minutes ago), but he just got here so imma wait and see what he does. otherwise sheeping ve and hf on igrok seems decent (as i mentioned a few minutes ago). for conv i want see see what/if he follows up on my meta (as i mentioned ...) for bc i have a town lead (as i posted) but am confused about the jock stuff so i want him to come back and explain (as i posted). ve top town (as i posted)
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also posted a read on jock
so not sure where the "0 opinions" stuff is coming from.
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your points on ruxxar and jock look reasonable and i dont really get the early game read art and ve had on you, so u prolly town
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God you guys do a lot of pointless arguing.
Give me a case to look at.
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