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Chuiu
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EDIT: Oh yeah, no new players today and I will be mostly AWOL the 17th while I celebrate being born for the umpteenth time. | ||
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ydg
United States690 Posts
ahrara_ Lysithea Ninja4ever. Romance_us NatsuTerran iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter 1/8 HotZhot Dr.Dragoon CDRdude Puosu KF91 Kuja900 KorvspaD Ziel jtan RowdierBob DTDominion BuGzlToOnl 2/12 "buzz-saw contraption" => lurker aspect again "did a back flip " wtf he's quite athletic? "escape were closed off " this again okay so blue is hidden blonde is haste orange is determination? | ||
MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia12794 Posts
I haven't actually been a participant, but if anyone requires me to vote, PM me. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On July 17 2008 19:07 RowdierBob wrote: It's not epic at all to make it through this by not being a participant. It's the easiest way to do it.Epic if I make it through this. I haven't actually been a participant, but if anyone requires me to vote, PM me. Of course you should vote. Vote for one of the people on the Showtime! list or for jtan. | ||
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KorvspaD
Sweden468 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia12794 Posts
Or prehaps it's a Mafia hustle? | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
Once upon a time, we still had detectives. Our town was united, one nation under Ace, and Showtime! was making an ass of himself and ticking everybody off. Pretty soon it got to the point where a bunch of people voted to lynch him: 11, to be exact. (vote count can be found here). Ace had his watchful eye on the whole affair, and quietly dispatched a detective to check on these voters. Only one of them was Mafia. (The Mafia have their own ways of dealing with irksome townies, which they did a few days later.) We return to the present day: Through murders and mislynchings, slowly that merry band of voters has been whittled down, and of the original 11 voters, only 4 now remain: qrs ahrara_ CDRdude iNfuNdiBuLuM The mafioso still lurks among them. But who can it be? qrs: Should be cleared by his recent pointing of the finger at BWdero. For the Mafia, there would be very little to gain from this, and a lot to lose. On the downside, one of the four remaining mafiosi, one who had not yet been suspected, was lynched. On the upside, perhaps qrs is solidly established as a townie, but this cannot last for more than a few lynches anyway. I am on the Showtime! list--if I were Mafia, this would be conclusively revealed after the other three were lynched. This leaves CDRdude, ahrara_, and iNfuNdiBuLuM. Of the three, I was leaning slightly towards CDRdude based on the lurker connection (Mr. Blue), but this was far from conclusive: the lurker might be jtan. Recently, however, another avenue of inquiry was raised by a chance remark of L's: On July 13 2008 13:17 L wrote: And as a sidenote: Mafia has NEVER had all twenty members active. If we did, we'd have had random in the mayorship. Well that was an interesting point. Looking back at the mayoral election, no less than three mafiosi switched their votes from Ace to randombum in a last-ditch effort to get their candidate elected. It's fair to assume that most active mafiosi would be voting for randombum at that point. Maybe a couple of them would not, to avoid putting all of their eggs in one basket. But the one candidate that no good mafioso (with the possible exception of fake-detective Mandalor) should have been voting for was Ace, the man who ended up beating randombum in a very narrow election. Here's the list of who voted for whom on the Showtime! list: qrs - araav ahrara_ - Ace CDRdude - Ace iNfuNdiBuLuM - randombum It still might be possible that ahrara_ or CDRdude is the mafioso. Perhaps they voted for Ace early and were inactive when the Mafia was making their big push. But if you look back at page 61, both of them were active right around that time. In fact, ahrara_ even said this: On March 20 2008 11:59 ahrara_ wrote: Hey folks, it looks like the voting is split between randombum and Ace. Just to be sure, let's have a few people change their votes back to Ace so we don't end up with bum as a mayor by accident. Summary: The circumstantial evidence has convinced me to vote for iNfuNdiBuLuM. As for which character he might be: with the propeller on his head, perhaps at night he flies around as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde has been described as very fast--once Chuiu even used the word "jetted" to describe him. On day 2 he was hanging out on the ceiling, of all places. Also he has come out of nowhere, and once he made his escape out of a window. Maybe he can fly. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On March 19 2008 14:10 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: I vote for randombum Ace is far in the lead, and that's a good thing. But Empyrean in the Pardoner position worries me to no end. By voting for randombum, I hope to oust Empyrean from the seat of power which he potentially holds. on Empyrean, briefly: 1. his roleclaiming puts the town on the spot to make a decision, and we also cannot verify this roleclaim for the time being. this is the biggest worry i have. 2. it makes him a target for mafia and their saboteur, basically it's free information for them. 3. ace doesn't like his ideas, we could have another FS/Tracil snafu. 4. a detective might have to waste a role check on Empyrean due to his claims, losing even more for the town. Basically i didn't trust Empyrean, and was sure Ace would hold the mayorship without my vote. Randombum was the only other candidate with enough votes to overcome Empyrean (nobody was voting for ghar etc.) I know that this only carries the weight of my word (which probably isn't much) but I also voted for him early on when Empyrean was still around even with Ace and nobody had bandwagoned onto him yet. Personally i'd rather vote for jtan or CDRdude than myself, especially jtan based on his posting and vote patterns and the lurker connection, plus he's been under consideration for ages and nothing has ever come up to clear him. Then if he turns out to be Mr. Blue, you might have a stronger case against me as Blonde (my profile pic guy has blonde hair and is wearing blue... perhaps i am both people!!  )however, that quote does seem to exonerate ahara_, whom Wysp has been wanting to lynch for a while now | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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SoleSteeler
Canada5396 Posts
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ydg
United States690 Posts
However, I think that lynching CDRdude is better, since if he is mafia, it means that the mandalor list is even more reduced because the other 3 are on the mandalor list if he is not mafia, it means that the rest of the mandalor list is innocent but whatever. Orange seems to have a lot to do with windows and like, outside contact. Space? "He made sure all forms of escape were closed off as he made his way to his victim for the night. MasterOfChaos was at his window peering outward when Mr. Orange entered in the room." "Unrolling the long fuse he drug the body in the middle of the street, lit it, and like a little kid ran off to safety to watch in awe. Scorch's body was practically paper at the mercy of these overzealous fireworks as they tore him apart from several points. Many people missed out on a great show." (Though I think the Sedative is important) "Mr. Orange had just finished cutting off unsoundlogics house from the rest of the world when unsoundlogic came out the back door and spotted him." "Ace quickly grabbed the phone to call for backup but it was too late as Mr. Orange had landed a dagger right on the phone line cutting him off. " " Mr. Orange had the help of Eddie as he went after Vharox. They were following behind Vharox as he was leaving a bar late at night. Once Vharox got his door open Eddie came from behind and grabbed him in restraint. Mr. Orange smashed an empty beer bottle over Vharox's head and it shattered into pieces and made Vharox flinch back in pain. He broke free of Eddie and charged into Mr. Orange knocking him on his side. Eddie tried to restrain Vharox again but had no luck as he fought him back. Vharox started inching his way to his cell phone to call the cops when Mr. Orange was back on his feet this time with a more lethal weapon. He stabbed Vharox in the arm with the beer bottle and then again in the chest. Vharox fell to the ground and Mr. Orange finished him off with a few more well placed stabs." Nothing there about it, though there is the BROKEN bottle, but nothing broke in Day 20. "Two men, Eddie and Mr. Orange were holding a man to the ground with their legs and pulling as hard as they could on his arms." Nothing there either though it is just one line. "useLess was sitting at home just watching TV when he heard a strange sound from outside his window. He went over to investigate and Mr. Orange jumped right through it and almost knocked useLess down as he flew past him." There is FLEW past him, maybe that is flying? "Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life." "an end to his bellows" is very suspicious writing; maybe instead Orange has something to do with lack of sound, as Plexa said? You can't hear anything in space? "Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them." Maybe "came down" refers to flying as well? If there are no other candidates for Orange, perhaps Lysithea? Moon of Jupiter, also, profile picture is of a window-looking object. But I suppose it all depends on this next lynch. He also voted for randombum. Didn't vote for crazie-penguin (voted for Dr. Dragoon), L (didn't vote), voted for LostYourSkills and not for ieatkids5, didn't vote for clazziquai (nonvote), but he voted for Unforgiven . EDIT: Ace posted this: On May 27 2008 16:45 Ace wrote: Mandalor list Keep in mind everything you have just read. Now look at the reduced Mandalor list: shallow zbir ocz3c romance_us lysithea randombum jimtudor bwdero we are sure that 4 of these guys are Mafia. Why that is the reduced Mandalor list, it has passed my mind. However; zbir ocz3c romance_us lysithea jimtudor bwdero That makes 1/2 mafia, either romance or lysithea. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On July 18 2008 01:52 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: qrs, this was my reasoning for voting for randombum: Basically i didn't trust Empyrean, and was sure Ace would hold the mayorship without my vote. Randombum was the only other candidate with enough votes to overcome Empyrean (nobody was voting for ghar etc.) I know that this only carries the weight of my word (which probably isn't much) but I also voted for him early on when Empyrean was still around even with Ace and nobody had bandwagoned onto him yet. It wasn't just that you voted for randombum, but that CDRdude voted for Ace. Also, I suppose that this doesn't entirely help: On June 22 2008 06:33 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Still, I don't say that you're certainly Mafia. Maybe CDRdude was offline at just the wrong time when the Mafia was pushing for randombum. Or maybe the Mafia was afraid that too many people switching their votes at the last second would look suspicious. In any case, as long as the town lynches someone from the showtime list, it's on the right track. If we don't get the mafioso this lynch, we'll surely get him the next.well at least suresh0t is active. i have never even seen romance_us post, so i'd rather give the benefit of the doubt to someone who at least has a possibility of being an active townie. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On July 18 2008 14:27 ydg wrote: Yeah, Mr. Orange seems to have something to do with cutting people off from the outside world. Cutting phone lines, stopping people from using cell phones, cutting off escape. That might possibly connect with space, as you suggest. Worth looking around to see if anyone else fits that theme, too. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On July 18 2008 23:15 qrs wrote: Still, I don't say that you're certainly Mafia. Maybe CDRdude was offline at just the wrong time when the Mafia was pushing for randombum. Or maybe the Mafia was afraid that too many people switching their votes at the last second would look suspicious. In any case, as long as the town lynches someone from the showtime list, it's on the right track. If we don't get the mafioso this lynch, we'll surely get him the next. In any case, it looks like I'm a goner. It was only a matter of time anyway, being on the showtime list and whatnot | ||
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ydg
United States690 Posts
If iNfuNdiBuLuM is green, then we have no new info, except that the Showtime list is reduced. If iNfuNdiBuLuM is red, then we know that CDRdude is green and the rest of the Mandalor list is green. However; If CDRdude is green, then we know that the people on the Mandalor list but not on the Showtime list are green. If CDRdude is red, then we know that of the people on the Mandalor list but not on the Showtime list, one is mafia, which reduces the list. Thus, we only get good information if iNfuNdiBuLuM turns red, while if CDRdude turns either red or green, we get information. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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