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zeo
Serbia6251 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18240 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On June 23 2018 04:34 sharkie wrote: Brych is showing all his class again. Worst ref of Germany and still refereeing international games PSG fans are still salty about Aytekin haha | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
Are you playing stupid? Maybe the people that voted him world referee 2017, or the ones that nominated him for the 2014/16/18 cups as only German ref. Or all kinds of other people. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30545 Posts
On June 23 2018 04:32 sneirac wrote: ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/AK8lZ/7c0b49b25e.jpg) e: another angle ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/eiT4cMS.jpg) He only does this to try and break free from this two man bear hug Really easy decision for a penalty imo | ||
739
Bearded Elder29902 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
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warding
Portugal2394 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland11695 Posts
As a result of this VAR doesn't get called in situations when there's doubt rather than a clear mistake, and that does a disservice to the process cause doubtful situations certainly deserve a second look. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28478 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On June 23 2018 05:04 sneirac wrote: He is still elbowing two people to the face, one foul doesn't justify another and it is completely impossible for the referee to see who fouled who first. And VAR cannot interfere because it isn't a clearly incorrect call, and probably inconclusive anyway. He's not elbowing anyone, you pick the one frame where it looks like he's fouling the opponent and base your argument on that. You're embarassing yourself. What's up with the national ref pride? | ||
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sharkie
Austria18240 Posts
On June 23 2018 05:26 Nebuchad wrote: I'm pretty sure every single time VAR is called in this WC the decision will be reversed. VAR has been asked to intervene when there is a clear mistake, so you'd be quite ballsy as a referee to still stick to your decision when another referee with a video tells you that you made a clear mistake. As a result of this VAR doesn't get called in situations when there's doubt rather than a clear mistake, and that does a disservice to the process cause doubtful situations certainly deserve a second look. We've already had VAR happening if the referee was not 100% of his decisions to confirm his decision. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
On June 23 2018 05:26 Nebuchad wrote: I'm pretty sure every single time VAR is called in this WC the decision will be reversed. VAR has been asked to intervene when there is a clear mistake, so you'd be quite ballsy as a referee to still stick to your decision when another referee with a video tells you that you made a clear mistake. As a result of this VAR doesn't get called in situations when there's doubt rather than a clear mistake, and that does a disservice to the process cause doubtful situations certainly deserve a second look. I think you might have some misconceptions about the VAR process. Communication with the ref is intentionally supposed to be initiated by the VAR, not the other way around, and of course only if the VAR has a good reason to reverse a call. So by design, if VAR and ref communicate, it because the situation is highly likely to be reversed. And also, as you say, it is unlikely that the ref disagrees, though not because of ballsiness: He only had one look while the VAR crew had several, so the odds are high the ref will get to the same conclusion after seeing the images. Doubtful situations do get a second look, but it doesnt not necessarily mean that we will know about it: At various instances, I heard the commentators in german tv say that a certain situation has been checked by the VAR and he found no sufficient reason to change the refs judgement. The commentators get notified by this fact on their screens (I wonder why they dont give this information to viewers directly though.). | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On June 23 2018 05:27 nojok wrote: He's not elbowing anyone, you pick the one frame where it looks like he's fouling the opponent and base your argument on that. You're embarassing yourself. What's up with the national ref pride? Yeah no, I have absolutely no problem with calling out Brych or any terrible german referee. I'm gonna repeat what I said in my first post. Both parties are fouling, which is what Brych sees (he actually saw Mitrovic as worse which is probably wrong) and VAR cannot interfere because that is not clearly wrong. And everyone is ignoring that this is how it works, Brych makes a split second call that is not clearly wrong, VAR cannot interfere. It isn't a clear penalty and Fifa isn't cheating becauser they are headquartered there. Just ridiculous. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland11695 Posts
On June 23 2018 05:45 Mafe wrote: I think you might have some misconceptions about the VAR process. Communication with the ref is intentionally supposed to be initiated by the VAR, not the other way around, and of course only if the VAR has a good reason to reverse a call. So by design, if VAR and ref communicate, it because the situation is highly likely to be reversed. And also, as you say, it is unlikely that the ref disagrees, though not because of ballsiness: He only had one look while the VAR crew had several, so the odds are high the ref will get to the same conclusion after seeing the images. Doubtful situations do get a second look, but it doesnt not necessarily mean that we will know about it: At various instances, I heard the commentators in german tv say that a certain situation has been checked by the VAR and he found no sufficient reason to change the refs judgement. The commentators get notified by this fact on their screens (I wonder why they dont give this information to viewers directly though.). I misspoke when I said "get called", what I meant was that the VAR can't just think the situation is doubtful, cause if it's just doubt then he's not going to force the hand of the main ref with that. So the VAR has to think that the decision is clearly wrong, and that means a lot of situations are removed from the table. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On June 23 2018 05:50 Orome wrote: How can it be a penalty, they just wanted to hug! Make love, not war! haha | ||
Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9084 Posts
It was a brilliant goal though. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18240 Posts
Always offensive to see | ||
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