EPT[M][N] Vendée Globe 16' Mafia - Page 58
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rsoultin
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Holyflare
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rsoultin
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On February 08 2018 17:23 Holyflare wrote: He does it almost every game? Like this? I mean I remember a shitfight with btdt I think...maybe I should find that game again. | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 08 2018 17:24 Holyflare wrote: It's probably frustrating to try and better yourself and your play to be met with the same results that you had previously. What, two people scumreading him? I think it was just koshi and mocsta. I know that emotions aren't logical by definition but I usually find the reasons for them make sense. | ||
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rsoultin
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Have a little more time before he's up from his nap though so anyone wanting rsoul time should take advantage of it now | ||
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Trfel
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On February 08 2018 17:24 rsoultin wrote: Wait you're right mderg was town last game >< All the same I stand by it. Post #717 (list post thing) is where he says mderg looked the same as his town game, but #719 and #780 could have led to a read flip IMO. Hm, looking deeper...Nh. Idk I find the outburst hard to get past. I hear you on why not mderg, but the other part is hed just gone to the trouble of saying that this looked like mderg's town game. Could be he didn't know how to shift his read, especially given I don't think he ever had a reason to townread me. Seems he committed to staying on rsoultin at about the same time mderg switched his vote from rsoultin to darthfoley. However, mderg said "I think my rsoultin scumread may actually be stupid here" 13 minutes previously. That's a huge, huge, huge miscommunication if they're mafia together. And if mafia was really trying to keep mderg alive, they could have asked mderg to vote to save himself; no one can ever be blamed for voting to save themself. I stand by the read. Like, if they're mafia together, then Conversion did set himself up for either voting mderg or rsoultin. He still went the opposite direction as mderg did. That's not a result of not knowing how to switch, that would only be the result of an incredible mafia team breakdown that I don't think is likely at all (much less something to scumread Conversion over). | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On February 08 2018 17:28 rsoultin wrote: What, two people scumreading him? I think it was just koshi and mocsta. I know that emotions aren't logical by definition but I usually find the reasons for them make sense. He's done it to one person so yes? | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 08 2018 17:35 Trfel wrote: Wait you're right mderg was town last game >< All the same I stand by it. Post #717 (list post thing) is where he says mderg looked the same as his town game, but #719 and #780 could have led to a read flip IMO. Hm, looking deeper... Seems he committed to staying on rsoultin at about the same time mderg switched his vote from rsoultin to darthfoley. However, mderg said "I think my rsoultin scumread may actually be stupid here" 13 minutes previously. That's a huge, huge, huge miscommunication if they're mafia together. And if mafia was really trying to keep mderg alive, they could have asked mderg to vote to save himself; no one can ever be blamed for voting to save themself. I stand by the read. Like, if they're mafia together, then Conversion did set himself up for either voting mderg or rsoultin. He still went the opposite direction as mderg did. That's not a result of not knowing how to switch, that would only be the result of an incredible mafia team breakdown that I don't think is likely at all (much less something to scumread Conversion over). You might be right actually. I really don't see a scum Damdred though. The way he whined for my attention is just not something I see him doing when he knows how well I read him. Also, his vote on me makes just as little sense. I could see one scum between df/rayn assuming I was wrong on rayn, but not both. If Joni is scum the df lynch would be trying to push someone when the lynch on me started losing traction. I don't think they can ever be scum together. Your point on disinfo was good. I was liking him alright because it seemed like the lynch energized him, and hadn't thought about him following the game before. That just puts him at null though. Also kinda liking prp. Hf is always town here. Still like ritoky. If koshi is scum he's pocketed me so hard lol. You're posting smart truffle thoughts. As for mocsta...he's probably just town but I don't think I'll ever be sure of him. So in short unless I'm forgetting someone I must be wrong on my reads somewhere. | ||
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rsoultin
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Lol fair >< Sorry conversion, I didn't mean to belittle your feelings if they're real. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On February 08 2018 06:35 darthfoley wrote: if rsoultin is town, prplhz is almost certainly town too prplhz is town in any case i think. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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uh oh... now i kinda think you're mafia.  you've done this before when you write into mafia qt and then come to thread and forget which tags to use. | ||
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disformation
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On February 08 2018 17:28 rsoultin wrote: What, two people scumreading him? I think it was just koshi and mocsta. I know that emotions aren't logical by definition but I usually find the reasons for them make sense. *cough* *cough* but its cool. i gave all my creds to koshi already. confused why conv arbitrarily decided im tpwn gor it when he has mocsta and koshi as scum. or omgus targets. | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 08 2018 18:02 disformation wrote: *cough* *cough* but its cool. i gave all my creds to koshi already. confused why conv arbitrarily decided im tpwn gor it when he has mocsta and koshi as scum. or omgus targets. Lol you're right I totally forgot you were talking about it first. Yeah he was never calling them scum just...yeah. I'm not going to inflame that. | ||
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disformation
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On February 08 2018 17:17 Trfel wrote: Found my own answer, probably shouldn't be playing mafia this late  I guess I'm pretty confident that Conversion is town. Emotional outburst aside even. I don't think it's suspicious of him at all at end of day. If he's mafia, why would he set himself up for a switch into mderg, and then stay the course on rsoultin even when it's not looking good? And again, mderg wasn't trying to survive, he was giving up. It doesn't make sense for mderg and Conversion to be a team here; Conversion wouldn't try to save an mderg who wasn't trying to save himself. There's more to it than that, his reads themselves I feel show actual desire to solve the game and good thinking. He seems invested in his reads and the lynches and is willing to interact with others to help solve the game together. Some of the stuff he says is ridiculously suspicious (like saying he needs to read his own filter more carefully) but I don't think that's significant because mafia wouldn't be inclined to say that either. I don't have much reason to lynch him and I have plenty of reasons to townread him. the weird thing is that a lot of ppl were super waffly about the lynch yesterday (as i pointed out) until late. so its not easy to tell. maybe the two scum didnt want to be close together on the same wagon. maybe 1-2 were afk. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On February 08 2018 08:01 Koshi wrote: I think she isn't. The play was so bad if they were both mafia that I think it is more likely she was bad as town. mafia!rsoultin left mafia!mdergs wagon for a play that extremely unlikely would work. And if she pulled it off and she/mderg die in the future they both look like shit. If she stayed on the mderg wagon she is not going to get lynched till D3. And with minimal effort D4. The best play as mafia is ALWAYS to bus mderg. So what.. you're saying mderg sacced himself so a townie looks bad? I don't think it makes any sense in any world sorry. rsoultin not voting for mderg is not that bad (although i don't believe that either -- that rsoultin doesn't save herself over someone she has had a scumread just a while ago). Well it kinda is because i really do not see rsoultin not voting for mderg as town even if she actually has a super duper big townread on mderg. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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See Koshi here. " If anything, she plays to win, always." So playing to win is refusing to save herself over a guy who she has mafiaread just a while ago and the only reason not to is that mderg doesn't want to save himself?????? | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 08 2018 18:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: See Koshi here. " If anything, she plays to win, always." So playing to win is refusing to save herself over a guy who she has mafiaread just a while ago and the only reason not to is that mderg doesn't want to save himself?????? I've literally done this before. | ||
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rsoultin
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Or I misremembered nvm. For some reason I thought I did this my first game here with HTS. Regardless, who else is scum? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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prplhz
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On February 08 2018 12:10 Mocsta wrote: For total transparency. I have reported you. There is a significant difference between insulting as a joke/distraction and insulting to intimidate. Highly inappropriate to deliver this intentionally twice. While I understand that you are upset because what Conversion is doing, the no-report-rule exists for a reason. Nobody is interested in the TL moderators cleaning up this subforum. | ||
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