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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 08 2018 10:35 GMT
#1181
rayn

im disappointed. I thought you were meant to be a challenge.

At least this means I have zero chance of being NK'd.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 10:36 GMT
#1182
On February 08 2018 19:26 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 19:18 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 19:15 Mocsta wrote:
On February 08 2018 17:49 rsoultin wrote:
[..]
As for mocsta...he's probably just town but I don't think I'll ever be sure of him.
[..]
Tina, im quite tired of hearing this. Let me (attempt) to put your mind at ease.

Last game, i made 2 wall of text posts. One was to vote damdred, and the other was in Lylo as a reply.

Please re look at that vote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/529865-newbie-student-mafia-xxviii?page=12#226

Please look at the wall of text in this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=6#119

They are not the same whatsoever.

You are getting too fixated on a specific event (large post), and not being rational towards whether they are similar.

You say me as a good town should back off from you.. well guess what, i did.
No matter I have done, you continue to be fearful.

I could have easily left my vote on you last night.. however I did not.
Unless you genuinely think there is even a 5% chance I bussed, you need to get over this.



-pokes- You're confusing my issue with you with someone else. I've maintained from the beginning that this seems like NAI posting style.

My issues with you are only little doubtful tickles that aren't worth repeating unless I can't find scum elsewhere.
i dont want to shit the thread with this.. im saying. look at the two posts.. its actually 100% ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE.

anyways, if its of any consolation I am finding you starting to have that aura back.

If you're town this game, which I still think is more likely than not, it may well be. They're at the very least cosmetically different lol. It's kind of cute how much you want me to stop having doubts on you. Kinda puppyish. <- That honestly means more to me than differences in wall posts when I haven't done a meta dive on you.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 10:39 GMT
#1183
On February 08 2018 19:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 19:13 rsoultin wrote:
How do you get me saying you were only scumreading me because you didn't see my df read from that? I just wanted to know where the insta vote came from.

Which you still haven't explained by the way.

Because that's what you said?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I honestly can't believe you are so close-minded you can't figure out my vote came from like 20 of the same posts i made on you and the fact i said here:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 17:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 07 2018 17:45 rsoultin wrote:
If you guys want to vote me, fine. Lynch me for closure. But I don't want any more talk about me today so that I can focus and have a chance of actually leaving good reads behind.

My problem is that i told you this like 100 hours ago -- after my push was initially that lead to all these people scumreading you, and you managed to do absolutely nothing after. So can you start now instead of still jsut complaining about ppl scumreading you? Sorry if i sound offensive, i don't mean to.

I wrote this AFTER i voted for you.

I cannot believe you cannot connect these two things to why i was voting for you and instead you invent a "wow i can't see why he is voting for me" narrative. If you think my reasoning is bs then just say so, but don't say you dont know what my reasoning is because my filter up to that point is 90% of why i think you're scum.

I'm finding it really difficult to believe that you honestly can't figure out that I'm asking about your sudden switch from df back to me. It looked impulsive. How hard is that to explain?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 10:41 GMT
#1184
On February 08 2018 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 19:31 rsoultin wrote:
Prp was never in danger of being lynched.

Votewise correct. Thread sentiment doesn't suggest so.

Yes it does. You should read it
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 08 2018 10:41 GMT
#1185
@tina

I still think your reasons to town read rayn are poor.

You are essentially stating he is a terrible townie that is subject to tunneling.

The thing is, you should re-read the post the rayn post below.. this was the first post that made me iffy about rayn; and of course, the whole mderg sequence of events seals the deal.

For your reference, this type of mindset of how he addresses me is not very townie (or tunneled).
Its why i asked later if he is this self-centered.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=10#197
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 10:42 GMT
#1186
Because noone seemed to believe me it makes him mafia and i needed to leave.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 10:48 GMT
#1187
On February 08 2018 19:41 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2018 19:31 rsoultin wrote:
Prp was never in danger of being lynched.

Votewise correct. Thread sentiment doesn't suggest so.

Yes it does. You should read it

So what? is he scum then?
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 10:48 GMT
#1188
On February 08 2018 19:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Furthermore, here is what i saw at the eod. Correct me if i am wrong as i was speedreading whenever i got a chance during work. Lynches were rsoultin or mderg. prplhz was thrown in as a third option. I personally thought prplhz was actaully in some kind of danger (like he had as many votes or close to rsoul/mderg) of getting lynched. The reason (Koshi mentioned this) i said i think prplhz is town in a post close to deadline is because i had actually no clue where the votes are and prplhz brought up shennies which i find to be dumb as scum (as i read mderg as town) since from my perspective the shennies would most likely end up on him. He could have just voted for mderg for some random reason (yes, he tends to do that -- i know it from experience, as mafia).

Another thing is that noone was really pushing anything over rsoultin, other than mderg. Which is why i also find it more likely that rsoultin is mafia too. There was mderg -- rsoultin -- (prplhz). Which mafia team doesn't do anything in this situation in case only mderg is mafia? If we exclude prplhz why don't mafia vote for rsoultin or try to get her lynched instead? The only reasons in case rsoultin is town are semi-afk mafia at the time (rels slot, and i have to check on conv,ritoky,mocsta and damdred) or there is already a bus and crossed fingers (mocsta, possibly ritoky -- i don't believe anyone else here is bussing). But i don't find this scenario more likely than just that rsoultin is mafia, based on both mderg's and rsoultin's actions at the deadline.

Koshi is quite obviously town.

Trfel is quite obviously town.

prplhz i talked about earlier, town.

I believe darthfoley would have pushed rsoultin lynch more near the deadline in case he was mafia, if he is mafia with rsoultin the whole mafia teams play during whole D1 doesn't make any fucking sense at all so the only conclusion i can come to is that he is town.

ritoky voted for mderg so he gets a pass for now.

Holyflare could technically be scum if rsoultin is scum but i don't really believe D1 would have ended in a mafia lynch in case Holyflare is mafia, and he also voted for mderg, so town.

Mocsta slipped, probably scum. Could bus. Already did so (although softly) last game.

disformation nothing to say here.

Damdred and Conversion. Conversion's tone sounds townie but idk if to trust that. Also Koshi i think made a decent case. Idk, tone says town, hard evidence says mafia. Damdred could be anything.

I'd still roll with rsoultin and Mocsta.

For all these pretty words your scumreads still amount to 1)retarded double mafia suicide instead of bussing for cred and 2)some guy posted <b> code instead of using brackets.

And instead of engaging me when I'm being perfectly civil to try to rule you out, since I'm more suspicious of df anyway, you flip your top and saying I'm saying all kinds of things that I'm not.

Your read on mderg was objectively bad. Own it.

I own my shit.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 08 2018 10:48 GMT
#1189
On February 08 2018 17:25 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 17:23 Holyflare wrote:
He does it almost every game?


Like this? I mean I remember a shitfight with btdt I think...maybe I should find that game again.

Imo we let it rest. Dont analyse it. w.e
He is probably not happy with it.
And it is nai.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 08 2018 10:51 GMT
#1190
On February 08 2018 18:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 06:50 Mocsta wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:46 ritoky wrote:
casually lynching mafia on my birthday.

framer implies cop. cop should be on rsoul, green gives us 6 or 7 confirmed. red gives us 2 mafia in 2 days; both are pretty unlosable scenarios.

gonna try to finish my nap before birthday dinner, cya tomorrow.

Love it

<b>bomb: damdred</b>

uh oh... now i kinda think you're mafia.
you've done this before when you write into mafia qt and then come to thread and forget which tags to use.

That is actually true.
I had a good night of sleep.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 10:53 GMT
#1191
On February 08 2018 19:41 Mocsta wrote:
@tina

I still think your reasons to town read rayn are poor.

You are essentially stating he is a terrible townie that is subject to tunneling.

The thing is, you should re-read the post the rayn post below.. this was the first post that made me iffy about rayn; and of course, the whole mderg sequence of events seals the deal.

For your reference, this type of mindset of how he addresses me is not very townie (or tunneled).
Its why i asked later if he is this self-centered.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=10#197

...Lol. I wouldn't use those words exactly but yes Joni and I fundamentally disagree on what makes people scum. Self-centered reads are kind of his thing. That and things like inconsistencies.

What is it about you that you find weird in his post?

I honestly do believe that he could scumread me just for being dismissive toward him as town.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 10:53 GMT
#1192
On February 08 2018 19:48 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 19:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Furthermore, here is what i saw at the eod. Correct me if i am wrong as i was speedreading whenever i got a chance during work. Lynches were rsoultin or mderg. prplhz was thrown in as a third option. I personally thought prplhz was actaully in some kind of danger (like he had as many votes or close to rsoul/mderg) of getting lynched. The reason (Koshi mentioned this) i said i think prplhz is town in a post close to deadline is because i had actually no clue where the votes are and prplhz brought up shennies which i find to be dumb as scum (as i read mderg as town) since from my perspective the shennies would most likely end up on him. He could have just voted for mderg for some random reason (yes, he tends to do that -- i know it from experience, as mafia).

Another thing is that noone was really pushing anything over rsoultin, other than mderg. Which is why i also find it more likely that rsoultin is mafia too. There was mderg -- rsoultin -- (prplhz). Which mafia team doesn't do anything in this situation in case only mderg is mafia? If we exclude prplhz why don't mafia vote for rsoultin or try to get her lynched instead? The only reasons in case rsoultin is town are semi-afk mafia at the time (rels slot, and i have to check on conv,ritoky,mocsta and damdred) or there is already a bus and crossed fingers (mocsta, possibly ritoky -- i don't believe anyone else here is bussing). But i don't find this scenario more likely than just that rsoultin is mafia, based on both mderg's and rsoultin's actions at the deadline.

Koshi is quite obviously town.

Trfel is quite obviously town.

prplhz i talked about earlier, town.

I believe darthfoley would have pushed rsoultin lynch more near the deadline in case he was mafia, if he is mafia with rsoultin the whole mafia teams play during whole D1 doesn't make any fucking sense at all so the only conclusion i can come to is that he is town.

ritoky voted for mderg so he gets a pass for now.

Holyflare could technically be scum if rsoultin is scum but i don't really believe D1 would have ended in a mafia lynch in case Holyflare is mafia, and he also voted for mderg, so town.

Mocsta slipped, probably scum. Could bus. Already did so (although softly) last game.

disformation nothing to say here.

Damdred and Conversion. Conversion's tone sounds townie but idk if to trust that. Also Koshi i think made a decent case. Idk, tone says town, hard evidence says mafia. Damdred could be anything.

I'd still roll with rsoultin and Mocsta.

For all these pretty words your scumreads still amount to 1)retarded double mafia suicide instead of bussing for cred and 2)some guy posted <b> code instead of using brackets.

And instead of engaging me when I'm being perfectly civil to try to rule you out, since I'm more suspicious of df anyway, you flip your top and saying I'm saying all kinds of things that I'm not.

Your read on mderg was objectively bad. Own it.

I own my shit.

Well then you probably tried to do a retarded townie suicide over mafia.

Remains to be seen.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 10:54 GMT
#1193
Your sig tells the truth Tina.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 08 2018 10:56 GMT
#1194
On February 08 2018 19:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Furthermore, here is what i saw at the eod. Correct me if i am wrong as i was speedreading whenever i got a chance during work. Lynches were rsoultin or mderg. prplhz was thrown in as a third option. I personally thought prplhz was actaully in some kind of danger (like he had as many votes or close to rsoul/mderg) of getting lynched. The reason (Koshi mentioned this) i said i think prplhz is town in a post close to deadline is because i had actually no clue where the votes are and prplhz brought up shennies which i find to be dumb as scum (as i read mderg as town) since from my perspective the shennies would most likely end up on him. He could have just voted for mderg for some random reason (yes, he tends to do that -- i know it from experience, as mafia).

Another thing is that noone was really pushing anything over rsoultin, other than mderg. Which is why i also find it more likely that rsoultin is mafia too. There was mderg -- rsoultin -- (prplhz). Which mafia team doesn't do anything in this situation in case only mderg is mafia? If we exclude prplhz why don't mafia vote for rsoultin or try to get her lynched instead? The only reasons in case rsoultin is town are semi-afk mafia at the time (rels slot, and i have to check on conv,ritoky,mocsta and damdred) or there is already a bus and crossed fingers (mocsta, possibly ritoky -- i don't believe anyone else here is bussing). But i don't find this scenario more likely than just that rsoultin is mafia, based on both mderg's and rsoultin's actions at the deadline.

Koshi is quite obviously town.

Trfel is quite obviously town.

prplhz i talked about earlier, town.

I believe darthfoley would have pushed rsoultin lynch more near the deadline in case he was mafia, if he is mafia with rsoultin the whole mafia teams play during whole D1 doesn't make any fucking sense at all so the only conclusion i can come to is that he is town.

ritoky voted for mderg so he gets a pass for now.

Holyflare could technically be scum if rsoultin is scum but i don't really believe D1 would have ended in a mafia lynch in case Holyflare is mafia, and he also voted for mderg, so town.

Mocsta slipped, probably scum. Could bus. Already did so (although softly) last game.

disformation nothing to say here.

Damdred and Conversion. Conversion's tone sounds townie but idk if to trust that. Also Koshi i think made a decent case. Idk, tone says town, hard evidence says mafia. Damdred could be anything.

I'd still roll with rsoultin and Mocsta.

Not a bad post. Blah this game will be though.
Pls mafia dont kill me. This seems like fun.
I had a good night of sleep.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 10:56 GMT
#1195
On February 08 2018 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because noone seemed to believe me it makes him mafia and i needed to leave.

Well, it didn't. Fine, I guess. It just seemed like it was in response to my post, where I actually agreed on your read independently of, well your reasons.

So it was confusing as shit.

Your scumreads are super lazy though. Not to mention probably 100% wrong.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 10:58 GMT
#1196
On February 08 2018 19:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 19:41 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2018 19:31 rsoultin wrote:
Prp was never in danger of being lynched.

Votewise correct. Thread sentiment doesn't suggest so.

Yes it does. You should read it

So what? is he scum then?

You should also read the reads I posted
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 10:58 GMT
#1197
On February 08 2018 19:56 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because noone seemed to believe me it makes him mafia and i needed to leave.

Well, it didn't. Fine, I guess. It just seemed like it was in response to my post, where I actually agreed on your read independently of, well your reasons.

So it was confusing as shit.

Your scumreads are super lazy though. Not to mention probably 100% wrong.

I am confused by this because yes, if darthfoley is scum like you suggest it does make him mafia.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 08 2018 10:59 GMT
#1198
On February 08 2018 18:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 06:50 Mocsta wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:46 ritoky wrote:
casually lynching mafia on my birthday.

framer implies cop. cop should be on rsoul, green gives us 6 or 7 confirmed. red gives us 2 mafia in 2 days; both are pretty unlosable scenarios.

gonna try to finish my nap before birthday dinner, cya tomorrow.

Love it

<b>bomb: damdred</b>

uh oh... now i kinda think you're mafia.
you've done this before when you write into mafia qt and then come to thread and forget which tags to use.


this is a pretty sick read if true.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 11:00 GMT
#1199
On February 08 2018 17:49 rsoultin wrote:
Also kinda liking prp.

Yes very well thought out read, i can make a lot out of that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 11:01 GMT
#1200
On February 08 2018 19:59 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 18:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:50 Mocsta wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:46 ritoky wrote:
casually lynching mafia on my birthday.

framer implies cop. cop should be on rsoul, green gives us 6 or 7 confirmed. red gives us 2 mafia in 2 days; both are pretty unlosable scenarios.

gonna try to finish my nap before birthday dinner, cya tomorrow.

Love it

<b>bomb: damdred</b>

uh oh... now i kinda think you're mafia.
you've done this before when you write into mafia qt and then come to thread and forget which tags to use.


this is a pretty sick read if true.

it is true.
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