EPT[M][N] Vendée Globe 16' Mafia - Page 59
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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Damdred + mderg could have saved mderg. | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 08 2018 18:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Damdred, Conversion or disformation can be mafia i agree, if you are not. But rn i don't have any reason to think you're not mafia. I am a bit confused, are you scumreading me or not? I'm not as convinced you're town as most of my other townreads, and I think there's scum between you and Darth Foley. The mderg read was bad. I also don't understand your reaction to my df filter dive at all. I quote my read that was already posted and you apparently missed to you and you insta-vote me without explanation? | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 08 2018 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Mocsta. I genuinely believe Mocsta slipped because he has slipped like that before. Also, what slip? Not that I really understood what you and Rels thought was a slip last game, but still. | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 08 2018 18:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: uh oh... now i kinda think you're mafia. you've done this before when you write into mafia qt and then come to thread and forget which tags to use. Oh this lol. It went into the white noise part of my brain. If it's true it's kinda funny but I've done this like a million times myself because I posted on other forums that don't use the brackets so eh | ||
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rsoultin
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Calix
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Just as a reminder to all players, please refrain from making personal attacks from this point onwards. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On February 08 2018 18:36 rsoultin wrote: I'm not as convinced you're town as most of my other townreads, and I think there's scum between you and Darth Foley. The mderg read was bad. I also don't understand your reaction to my df filter dive at all. I quote my read that was already posted and you apparently missed to you and you insta-vote me without explanation? See here is the thing - aside from all the mderg stuff. mderg read was bad... yeah ofc because he was scum, your read on mderg though, was that good? And your vote, yeah i guess it was really good or what? I think you're totally misinterpreting why i was voting for you. What i said early on in the game didn't go anywhere but somehow you magically just discard that. Then there is what Holyflare said, the post i quoted from him. I think it was a good summary of your play after i told you to go look for mafia. And yes, i don't remember your df post. If you made on it was not either convincing, or you didn't actually try to do anything with it. I went to your filter to confirm and at p4-5 yes you made a post on df but you seem more interested in talking about anything else than df. That doesn't resonate at all with what you did for example with Damerion or even df last game. So no, i don't believe yo uactually strongly thought he was mafia and if you didn't, it doesn't mean shit regarding my read on you since it is as likely you're just throwing shade as scum than it is that you are actually trying to scumhunt -- from my perspective i can't tell the difference so i find it extremely unfair you are trying to say i should have somehow seen it given that i already scumread you before. | ||
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Mocsta
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On February 08 2018 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: <b>bomb: rayn[/b]Mocsta. I genuinely believe Mocsta slipped because he has slipped like that before. im shaking in my boots peliko | ||
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Koshi
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On February 08 2018 12:31 Mocsta wrote: I fully agree with that.. in my opinion Rayn made (what i consider to be) deceitful effort to sway people from mderg before it got traction. thats the kicker for me. as leader of opposing wagon, he intervened TOO EARLY. Both ritoky and mocsta make excellent posts here. ritoky top town. The mderg wagon was pure. Amazing. | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 08 2018 19:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: See here is the thing - aside from all the mderg stuff. mderg read was bad... yeah ofc because he was scum, your read on mderg though, was that good? And your vote, yeah i guess it was really good or what? I think you're totally misinterpreting why i was voting for you. What i said early on in the game didn't go anywhere but somehow you magically just discard that. Then there is what Holyflare said, the post i quoted from him. I think it was a good summary of your play after i told you to go look for mafia. And yes, i don't remember your df post. If you made on it was not either convincing, or you didn't actually try to do anything with it. I went to your filter to confirm and at p4-5 yes you made a post on df but you seem more interested in talking about anything else than df. That doesn't resonate at all with what you did for example with Damerion or even df last game. So no, i don't believe yo uactually strongly thought he was mafia and if you didn't, it doesn't mean shit regarding my read on you since it is as likely you're just throwing shade as scum than it is that you are actually trying to scumhunt -- from my perspective i can't tell the difference so i find it extremely unfair you are trying to say i should have somehow seen it given that i already scumread you before. Holy defensive batman, lol. You asked about my read on you. I have it and why I wasn't townreadin you as much as my other t townreads. How do you get me saying you were only scumreading me because you didn't see my df read from that? I just wanted to know where the insta vote came from. Which you still haven't explained by the way. | ||
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Mocsta
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On February 08 2018 17:49 rsoultin wrote: Tina, im quite tired of hearing this. Let me (attempt) to put your mind at ease.[..] As for mocsta...he's probably just town but I don't think I'll ever be sure of him. [..] Last game, i made 2 wall of text posts. One was to vote damdred, and the other was in Lylo as a reply. Please re look at that vote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/529865-newbie-student-mafia-xxviii?page=12#226 Please look at the wall of text in this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=6#119 They are not the same whatsoever. You are getting too fixated on a specific event (large post), and not being rational towards whether they are similar. You say me as a good town should back off from you.. well guess what, i did. No matter I have done, you continue to be fearful. I could have easily left my vote on you last night.. however I did not. Unless you genuinely think there is even a 5% chance I bussed, you need to get over this. | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 08 2018 19:15 Mocsta wrote: Tina, im quite tired of hearing this. Let me (attempt) to put your mind at ease. Last game, i made 2 wall of text posts. One was to vote damdred, and the other was in Lylo as a reply. Please re look at that vote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/529865-newbie-student-mafia-xxviii?page=12#226 Please look at the wall of text in this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=6#119 They are not the same whatsoever. You are getting too fixated on a specific event (large post), and not being rational towards whether they are similar. You say me as a good town should back off from you.. well guess what, i did. No matter I have done, you continue to be fearful. I could have easily left my vote on you last night.. however I did not. Unless you genuinely think there is even a 5% chance I bussed, you need to get over this. -pokes- You're confusing my issue with you with someone else. I've maintained from the beginning that this seems like NAI posting style. My issues with you are only little doubtful tickles that aren't worth repeating unless I can't find scum elsewhere. | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 08 2018 19:13 rsoultin wrote: Holy defensive batman, lol. You asked about my read on you. I have it and why I wasn't townreadin you as much as my other t townreads. How do you get me saying you were only scumreading me because you didn't see my df read from that? I just wanted to know where the insta vote came from. Which you still haven't explained by the way. To be clear I had you as town from your pushes on both me and df. It's the sort of psuhes I never like from you because I feel that you only catch scum that way by accident. But they're pushes that often come from a town Joni. | ||
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Mocsta
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On February 08 2018 19:18 rsoultin wrote: i dont want to shit the thread with this.. im saying. look at the two posts.. its actually 100% ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE.-pokes- You're confusing my issue with you with someone else. I've maintained from the beginning that this seems like NAI posting style. My issues with you are only little doubtful tickles that aren't worth repeating unless I can't find scum elsewhere. anyways, if its of any consolation I am finding you starting to have that aura back. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Another thing is that noone was really pushing anything over rsoultin, other than mderg. Which is why i also find it more likely that rsoultin is mafia too. There was mderg -- rsoultin -- (prplhz). Which mafia team doesn't do anything in this situation in case only mderg is mafia? If we exclude prplhz why don't mafia vote for rsoultin or try to get her lynched instead? The only reasons in case rsoultin is town are semi-afk mafia at the time (rels slot, and i have to check on conv,ritoky,mocsta and damdred) or there is already a bus and crossed fingers (mocsta, possibly ritoky -- i don't believe anyone else here is bussing). But i don't find this scenario more likely than just that rsoultin is mafia, based on both mderg's and rsoultin's actions at the deadline. Koshi is quite obviously town. Trfel is quite obviously town. prplhz i talked about earlier, town. I believe darthfoley would have pushed rsoultin lynch more near the deadline in case he was mafia, if he is mafia with rsoultin the whole mafia teams play during whole D1 doesn't make any fucking sense at all so the only conclusion i can come to is that he is town. ritoky voted for mderg so he gets a pass for now. Holyflare could technically be scum if rsoultin is scum but i don't really believe D1 would have ended in a mafia lynch in case Holyflare is mafia, and he also voted for mderg, so town. Mocsta slipped, probably scum. Could bus. Already did so (although softly) last game. disformation nothing to say here. Damdred and Conversion. Conversion's tone sounds townie but idk if to trust that. Also Koshi i think made a decent case. Idk, tone says town, hard evidence says mafia. Damdred could be anything. I'd still roll with rsoultin and Mocsta. | ||
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rsoultin
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raynpelikoneet
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On February 08 2018 19:13 rsoultin wrote: How do you get me saying you were only scumreading me because you didn't see my df read from that? I just wanted to know where the insta vote came from. Which you still haven't explained by the way. Because that's what you said?!?!?!?!?!?!? I honestly can't believe you are so close-minded you can't figure out my vote came from like 20 of the same posts i made on you and the fact i said here: On February 07 2018 17:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: My problem is that i told you this like 100 hours ago -- after my push was initially that lead to all these people scumreading you, and you managed to do absolutely nothing after. So can you start now instead of still jsut complaining about ppl scumreading you? Sorry if i sound offensive, i don't mean to. I wrote this AFTER i voted for you. I cannot believe you cannot connect these two things to why i was voting for you and instead you invent a "wow i can't see why he is voting for me" narrative. If you think my reasoning is bs then just say so, but don't say you dont know what my reasoning is because my filter up to that point is 90% of why i think you're scum. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On February 08 2018 19:31 rsoultin wrote: Prp was never in danger of being lynched. Votewise correct. Thread sentiment doesn't suggest so. | ||
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