EPTrayn/rsoultin
rayn/rels slot
rayn/conversion
idk. rayn is back to looking bad now
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in b4 he posts an essay about how bad we are for scum reading him
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
rayn/rsoultin rayn/rels slot rayn/conversion idk. rayn is back to looking bad now + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On February 06 2018 06:37 Mocsta wrote: Bro-ski Nice joke but not very hipster of you Be that wanderer and tell me thoights on rsoultin please On February 06 2018 06:45 mderg wrote: I tend to think this is not a scum to scum interaction.Was thinking nothing about her posts but that rsuing unless nig actually sounds a bit bullshitty to me whereas, this is a REALLY out-of-place post On February 07 2018 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: while mderg lacks a bit of enthusiasm he had last game i think the last game was best i have ever seen mderg play. Also i think he is focusing on the right things (aka rsoultin). On February 07 2018 20:29 mderg wrote: Be honest, you're only townreading me because I'm on the same page as you on rsoultin. I haven't done shit this game. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
Conversion is not as scummy to me with context of thread. I still find the prplhz stuff "opportune"; however, I can see someone in and out @ work also being unsure how to proceed. In short, I still dont like the actions, but willing to see where this leads to. rsoultin On February 08 2018 03:28 rsoultin wrote: I dont understand why rayn is townread for being steadfast tunneled? Do you expect less from him than me? I imagine you should be equally scum reading Rayn and me.Although that does remind me that I did actually have a question for you. I think ritoky looks good this game. He and Joni are probably my biggest townreads. So what is it that you don't like about ritoky? On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote: More of a NAI roadblock in my mind. I cant visualise how mderg suddenly becomes town, as the mderg progression prior was indicating you observing differences to the prior game. This doesnt come across as scummy to me, and I have a theory why you did it - but I want to hear it from you first.This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger. damdred call this a stupid heuristic, but i find mderg uncharacteriscally terse here. makes me feel a lot better about damdred. On February 08 2018 03:06 Damdred wrote: Mderg I sort of feel your read on basedgodkoshi is a bit... underwhelming. I think Koshi has on the surface decent points (i disagree with him because your list in review looks the same as last game somewhat.) so I dont necessarily scum level of koshi laziness or going along with the thread sentiment. On February 08 2018 04:23 mderg wrote: What's your point here? Rayn Bad post. On February 08 2018 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Either rsoultin or df. Neither of prplhz or mderg is scum. I have no time to write more. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On February 08 2018 13:21 ritoky wrote: i would say that is fair, given the way trfel voted for mderg.truffle is really only possibly mafia with rsoul right? i seem to remember trfel not being a ruthless motherfucker when i was mafia with him one time. but then also relies on rsoultin being RB. I dont think its worth it to do it for a goon; or town cred (which trfel already had in spades) | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On February 07 2018 16:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: No progression on how Rayn gets from this to:I am somewhere around: town Conversion Mocsta Trfel - just because i cannot understand why he is voting for Koshi Holyflare mderg Koshi Damdred Rels - cop or vig this guy prplhz ritoky darthfoley rsoultin mafia On February 08 2018 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I get that DF/rsoultin should be his first priorities.. but that his null prplhz is advocating rsoultin is town should trigger Rayn to be more inquisitive. Instead now, prplhz has shot up the town ranks.Either rsoultin or df. Neither of prplhz or mderg is scum. I have no time to write more. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On February 08 2018 04:54 Conversion wrote: I am being pulled into another meeting. I will remain confident per rsoultin's call out on my play and stick with my vote. I have a good list of town reads that I will need to most likely re-evaluate during night. I hope we get more activity from the inactive players to help push town to victory. lol. robot is best way to describe this. im reading this thinking of a GPS outputting directions lol. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
 I don't really feel like mderg was playing to survive there. At least not with the darthfoley push. I feel like if mderg was strongly trying to get a new wagon going, he would have at least quoted some reasons or asked for support or something. It felt like he was resigned to his fate. To that end, voting analysis would suggest that rsoultin is town. It's just not a good play to be perfectly set up for a double bus and go for a double stupid instead. Still sorta reading up but let me know if you want to talk about anything  | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
You're a robot. Let me not be a robot raaawwwrrr #@!@#! You guys are such awful #@$!heads for seeing the game the same way I do but having me in your poe. @truffle what, lol? @mocsta not really sure what you expect to get with that question but okay. I thought mderg was town and was getting lynched. I was trying to get people to move, and df and HF were too busy with a pretty irrelevant conversation (about who deserves credit for what if I recall). In retrospect it was probably never going to work, at least with df, but that's good since I was wrong lol >< | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On February 08 2018 12:10 Mocsta wrote: For total transparency. I have reported you. There is a significant difference between insulting as a joke/distraction and insulting to intimidate. Highly inappropriate to deliver this intentionally twice. Don't do that. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Not impressed by disformation's posts to this point. He was following the game before the flip, he said as much. Which means that if he is mafia, he was reading the game and trying to analyze it before getting his role PM. Absolutely nothing prevents him from sharing most or all of his (honestly generated) thoughts as mafia here. It'll take a bit of time to be able to read him, I think. That said, hi disformation, good to play with you again I don't really think that End of Day makes prplhz town. That means that he was here to have the chance to change his vote and didn't do it. So if you're saying that he's town, then you're saying that he was town and saw a close lynch while he's townreading rsoultin and didn't bother to vote onto a wagon? To me it's more likely that he wasn't here, or that if he was here he didn't know what to do/didn't care enough. Feels very non alignment indicative to me. I'm still slightly leaning town on prplhz for other reasons (here and here, though the second does rely on me being right that rsoultin is town), but he's just done so freaking little. So I guess the only real suspect for me is darthfoley. Rsoultin, you really think that Conversion is mafia here? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
Joni seemed towny to me for pushing things for reasons like 'she should know not to talk to me this way because she knows I'd scumread her for it', 'no way he believes this he must be scum!' which to me are kind of the typical Joni reasons for thinking someone is scum that I tend to never find convincing. Also his prodding during the tunnel rather than just screaming about it. But frankly the mderg read was bad even before he flipped scum, and Joni has fooled me before recently. I just didn't think he'd bother with the smoke and mirrors because I'm not the dominant voice in the thread; I'm the only one now that Marv is gone who looks for inclusivity in his play I think. Though it's been awhile so that could have changed I suppose. Thinking mderg was town had everything to do with him not trying to push me for survival. No more complex than that. Pretty sure I've explained this numerous times by now? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 08 2018 16:58 Trfel wrote: And yes, I'm aware that the above "rsoultin is town" vote count analysis only really makes sense if mafia didn't have a huge thread presence at end of day. But that makes sense to me right now anyway. Not impressed by disformation's posts to this point. He was following the game before the flip, he said as much. Which means that if he is mafia, he was reading the game and trying to analyze it before getting his role PM. Absolutely nothing prevents him from sharing most or all of his (honestly generated) thoughts as mafia here. It'll take a bit of time to be able to read him, I think. That said, hi disformation, good to play with you again I don't really think that End of Day makes prplhz town. That means that he was here to have the chance to change his vote and didn't do it. So if you're saying that he's town, then you're saying that he was town and saw a close lynch while he's townreading rsoultin and didn't bother to vote onto a wagon? To me it's more likely that he wasn't here, or that if he was here he didn't know what to do/didn't care enough. Feels very non alignment indicative to me. I'm still slightly leaning town on prplhz for other reasons (here and here, though the second does rely on me being right that rsoultin is town), but he's just done so freaking little. So I guess the only real suspect for me is darthfoley. Rsoultin, you really think that Conversion is mafia here? His shitfit looks forced to me. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
We've been having scarily similar reads all game, except now you're scumreading one of my strongest townreads... Like is it just the explosion? Or is there more to it? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On February 08 2018 10:20 Mocsta wrote: Koshi, you are too paranoid about trfel. If this is a bus. fuck me. not only is it award worthy play, but im happy to lose the game. THERE WAS NO NEED TO FORCE A VOTE ONTO MDERG AT THIS POINT (if you think rsoultin is town); and the logic is absolutely ON POINT. Good stuff thx. Never bad to question everybody after a good lynch. But tfrel is clear. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 08 2018 17:06 Trfel wrote: I gathered as much from your above post. I'll take it that's a yes though. We've been having scarily similar reads all game, except now you're scumreading one of my strongest townreads... Like is it just the explosion? Or is there more to it? That and his weird waffling. He came into the thread all idk idk what do I do but when he actually lays out his reads it was like: I have 1 reason to read mderg scum but this looks like his town game... And I have no reasons to read rsoul town except she posted It was just like well are are you confused about then? Seems like he needed an excuse to vote off the mderg wagon. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
 I guess I'm pretty confident that Conversion is town. Emotional outburst aside even. I don't think it's suspicious of him at all at end of day. If he's mafia, why would he set himself up for a switch into mderg, and then stay the course on rsoultin even when it's not looking good? And again, mderg wasn't trying to survive, he was giving up. It doesn't make sense for mderg and Conversion to be a team here; Conversion wouldn't try to save an mderg who wasn't trying to save himself. There's more to it than that, his reads themselves I feel show actual desire to solve the game and good thinking. He seems invested in his reads and the lynches and is willing to interact with others to help solve the game together. Some of the stuff he says is ridiculously suspicious (like saying he needs to read his own filter more carefully) but I don't think that's significant because mafia wouldn't be inclined to say that either. I don't have much reason to lynch him and I have plenty of reasons to townread him. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
And yeah I just don't see that emotion coming from town. It's so over the top. He'd barely been mentioned as a scumspect, and just been accused of being too emotionless. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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