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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 20:41 GMT
#901
On February 08 2018 05:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 05:35 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:22 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:18 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:13 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn/Damdred don't look very good tbh.

Rayn committed to df/rsoultin only when it's very close
Damdred votes rsoultin last minute when it's very close


this is literally misrepresentation. I voted rsoultin with a few se onds to go and the vote was 5-3 with no movement...

thats not close when rsoultim would need three votes.


I thought it was 4v3 and HF voted after you made it 4v4. Hadn't checked tbf. Interesting


It was 4vs3 and I voted to prevent any bull shit going on rsoul making it 5vs3. Then rsoul doesn't vote to save herself because mderg was her partner and then damdred made it 5v4.


Blah yeah just shoot me so you guys can get this out of your head. I'll make it easier for anyone doubting and afk the night phase...would rather spend the time with Lexy anyway since it's his day off.

Like there's really no chance as scum that I do that instead of buss for the cred, but you won't believe that until you see me flip.


I was only slightly kidding :p

Need to read rest of game now and see what's up. Please just ignore me. I'm sorry.


Eh, you're fine. The honest truth is that if I weren't me I would think I was scum right now, so as I said...I really can't blame anyone. Maybe after some sleep this game will make a bit more sense.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 20:43 GMT
#902
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 20:43 GMT
#903
On February 08 2018 05:41 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:31 Conversion wrote:
I am back from my meeting. I am glad it was shorter than intended.

I am also happy that we flipped mafia, however I guess I might look bad for waffling at the end. I'm not sure if people pointed that out yet.

I am questioning why HF thinks I am typing like a mafia person. This is the second time he has mentioned it. I am trying out a new play style that does not involve me being a drama queen, maybe that is why? Are you going to set up for my mislynch later on in the game?

I have some notes written based on rsoultin/mderg flip. I will share the relevant one. Not sure how meaningful it is.

+ Show Spoiler [mderg flips scum notes] +

Mderg flips mafia: Now this is the case I am rather interested in. That would mean the nagging feeling I had in my head that he seemed almost eerily similar to his Newbie game means that he was manufacturing his town play. So why not just hammer rsoultin to save himself? This was the weird play... for me, if I am town, I will
rabidly try to save myself (as I did in a game with Koshi when I lynched Chezinu), because the only certainty I have and know is that I am 100% town, and I will avoid town mislynching me at all costs. His play seemed more like I will not save myself.. for some reason. I will need to look into what role he flips to see if the possibility
of saving rsoultin is there, as she can be a more powerful role? Who knows. I'd most likely poke at rayn more here on his thought process on why we shouldn't lynch mderg or prplhz.


You just answer yourself. The problem I have with you is that you sound exactly like a robot. No emotions, really odd phrasing and rigid.


Fair point. I did come into this game knowing there would be upsides and downsides to this playstyle. I will let my posting in the future days prove whether I am mafia or town instead of discussing it any further.


Yes, we shall avoid talking about our human emotions because we are human people. Let us continue conversing in a human manner.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 07 2018 20:46 GMT
#904
On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:
I am back. Meeting ran over, typical.

Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can.

Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do.


I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing.

Actually, I am.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 20:48 GMT
#905
On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though

anecdote on that teammate interaction:
i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like:
"Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter."
"Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter."
"@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?"

soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 20:49 GMT
#906
On February 06 2018 18:48 rsoultin wrote:
I think I want to lynch into conv/rit/mderg today.

Not sure on mocsta...it's hard to tell with someone tunneled on you.

Rayn and truffle are town.

DF...I'm not sure. I see the issue truffle has with him, and it's part of why I'm reading truffle town, but I still think that tonally DF is kinda towny. Relaxed. Also, it doesn't really look like last game where he was scum.

What bugs me about ritoky most is he seems to have a decently strong reason to scumread conversion but isn't pursuing it. If conv ends up being scum, he probably is, too. Actually, he's probably scum anyway. I really don't get the focus on koshi over people who are actually scummy to him.


Can you elaborate why mderg was here but 0 time spent talking about him?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 20:50 GMT
#907
I am sorry df youre not mafia.
rsoultin however is.
table for two on a tv tray
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 20:52 GMT
#908
@HF Cheeky.

On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though


Firstly, welcome! I think you are the one person back in whatever game I played that pointed out my peacing out to play Path of Exile. I forget which game.

I do not see the relevance in having reads spilled out into the thread and being town. I do have other reads, I just did not feel them important enough to share with the thread and attempt to look like I am padding my filter. My thought process is, in my opinion, very transparent aside from that.. Mderg and prpl reads were blatantly sheeped from Koshi. Should be in my filter somewhere.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 20:52 GMT
#909
Never ever let that slide. Please. Mafia dude refuses to save himself and so does the counter wagon. Both mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 07 2018 20:54 GMT
#910
On February 08 2018 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Never ever let that slide. Please. Mafia dude refuses to save himself and so does the counter wagon. Both mafia.

Eh I don't think mafia!rsoultin would do that except to throw people off or something. If anything, she plays to win, always.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 21:02 GMT
#911
On February 08 2018 05:52 Conversion wrote:
@HF Cheeky.

Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though


Firstly, welcome! I think you are the one person back in whatever game I played that pointed out my peacing out to play Path of Exile. I forget which game.

I do not see the relevance in having reads spilled out into the thread and being town. I do have other reads, I just did not feel them important enough to share with the thread and attempt to look like I am padding my filter. My thought process is, in my opinion, very transparent aside from that.. Mderg and prpl reads were blatantly sheeped from Koshi. Should be in my filter somewhere.

hm how aware are you of trying to look like not padding your filter?^^
maybe is should learn that skill.
thinking of it.
i thought your waffles on mderg, or rather you not voting mderg, looks okay cause you actually went and looked at his posts from the nsm. though there is ofc the possibility that mderg would have let you know about that, if you are/were partners.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 21:05 GMT
#912
On February 08 2018 06:02 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 05:52 Conversion wrote:
@HF Cheeky.

On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though


Firstly, welcome! I think you are the one person back in whatever game I played that pointed out my peacing out to play Path of Exile. I forget which game.

I do not see the relevance in having reads spilled out into the thread and being town. I do have other reads, I just did not feel them important enough to share with the thread and attempt to look like I am padding my filter. My thought process is, in my opinion, very transparent aside from that.. Mderg and prpl reads were blatantly sheeped from Koshi. Should be in my filter somewhere.

hm how aware are you of trying to look like not padding your filter?^^
maybe is should learn that skill.
thinking of it.
i thought your waffles on mderg, or rather you not voting mderg, looks okay cause you actually went and looked at his posts from the nsm. though there is ofc the possibility that mderg would have let you know about that, if you are/were partners.


Past games I would have a near 10 page filter by the end of D1. I figured that wasn't good play from me, so I'm trying to refine it. Hence, I am very aware and trying to bleed town as much as possible from my posts, without spamming the thread as much to get it.

My question to you would be: If I am scum (essentially making scum team mderg/Conversion/+1), who would be the last one?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 21:06 GMT
#913
hmm... don't think that is slam dunk, but well into suspicion/lean territory.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 21:07 GMT
#914
On February 08 2018 06:05 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 06:02 disformation wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:52 Conversion wrote:
@HF Cheeky.

On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though


Firstly, welcome! I think you are the one person back in whatever game I played that pointed out my peacing out to play Path of Exile. I forget which game.

I do not see the relevance in having reads spilled out into the thread and being town. I do have other reads, I just did not feel them important enough to share with the thread and attempt to look like I am padding my filter. My thought process is, in my opinion, very transparent aside from that.. Mderg and prpl reads were blatantly sheeped from Koshi. Should be in my filter somewhere.

hm how aware are you of trying to look like not padding your filter?^^
maybe is should learn that skill.
thinking of it.
i thought your waffles on mderg, or rather you not voting mderg, looks okay cause you actually went and looked at his posts from the nsm. though there is ofc the possibility that mderg would have let you know about that, if you are/were partners.


Past games I would have a near 10 page filter by the end of D1. I figured that wasn't good play from me, so I'm trying to refine it. Hence, I am very aware and trying to bleed town as much as possible from my posts, without spamming the thread as much to get it.

My question to you would be: If I am scum (essentially making scum team mderg/Conversion/+1), who would be the last one?

good question, havent read all filters yet. just found a few things in yours interesting.
well. i dont think you could be scum with rsoultin.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 07 2018 21:07 GMT
#915
Rayn and I have a connwvtion thatvis deep every game. We agree while not talking *fist bump*.

Disformation roll a d20 and tell me what your read on conversion is your last post was a waffle.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 21:09 GMT
#916
i was also reading trfels filter and am not sure why your argument made him switch to rsoultin.
which made me read your filter.

brief glance at ritoky said im cool with him
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 21:11 GMT
#917
On February 08 2018 05:49 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 18:48 rsoultin wrote:
I think I want to lynch into conv/rit/mderg today.

Not sure on mocsta...it's hard to tell with someone tunneled on you.

Rayn and truffle are town.

DF...I'm not sure. I see the issue truffle has with him, and it's part of why I'm reading truffle town, but I still think that tonally DF is kinda towny. Relaxed. Also, it doesn't really look like last game where he was scum.

What bugs me about ritoky most is he seems to have a decently strong reason to scumread conversion but isn't pursuing it. If conv ends up being scum, he probably is, too. Actually, he's probably scum anyway. I really don't get the focus on koshi over people who are actually scummy to him.


Can you elaborate why mderg was here but 0 time spent talking about him?


I didn't like his bullshitting post, nor how he agreed with mocsta but couldn't understand him simultaneously. I didn't explicitly spell that out but it's obvious from my filter if you need to verify it.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 07 2018 21:12 GMT
#918
gut read disf coming in cold and spitting fire with reads makes me think town.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 21:13 GMT
#919
On February 08 2018 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Never ever let that slide. Please. Mafia dude refuses to save himself and so does the counter wagon. Both mafia.


So who is mafia when I flip town? Because that will be the world you're living in, probably very soon.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2018 21:14 GMT
#920
On February 08 2018 06:07 Damdred wrote:
Rayn and I have a connwvtion thatvis deep every game. We agree while not talking *fist bump*.

Disformation roll a d20 and tell me what your read on conversion is your last post was a waffle.

got a 14.
apparently that says:
not slam dunk scum, meaning i will not vig shot shot him tonight or tunnel him till one of dies, but i think might be scum and I would not be averse to voting him.
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