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On August 13 2016 03:05 Luolis wrote: This is new, i'm starting to hate my own race from watching sc2.
Sounds like its time to switch races and experience the other 2 races some :D Its fun for sure to play them all
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On August 13 2016 03:08 las91 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2016 03:07 blade55555 wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 Luolis wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 RaFox17 wrote: Damn i hate Lotv ZvT. Speed vs. slow shit is not fun! Yeah, lotv in general is just bad. I disagree. While ZvT is worse in lotv entertainment wise (I miss muta/ling/bane ), I would say ZvP is way better then wol/hots. I would even say PvT is better as well (entertaining wise, I don't know about playing). Only matchup I think got worse at least imo, is definitely ZvT. the P matchups are way more fun I agree TvT looks the sameish and ZvT is worse in lotv IMO I think TvT is like the worst matchup in the game now. Tankivacs broke the matchup so hard that when i get it on ladder nowadays i just tend to f10+n
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I'm really liking LoTV. There was just as much abuse in HoTS but everyone has rose tinted glasses on.
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On August 13 2016 03:07 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Whats with the sudden resurgence of LotV haters today
At least the HotS swarm host lovers haven't popped up yet.
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On August 13 2016 03:09 Quateras wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2016 03:05 Luolis wrote: This is new, i'm starting to hate my own race from watching sc2. Sounds like its time to switch races and experience the other 2 races some :D Its fun for sure to play them all I've played protoss fairly often for offrace. Sadly i thought Hots protoss was more fun to play than Lotv protoss. In general i don't really play that often anyway to go as far as to switch race anyway :D
Not to mention i always hated playing Z
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On August 13 2016 03:07 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2016 03:06 Luolis wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 RaFox17 wrote: Damn i hate Lotv ZvT. Speed vs. slow shit is not fun! Yeah, lotv in general is just bad. I disagree. While ZvT is worse in lotv entertainment wise (I miss muta/ling/bane ), I would say ZvP is way better then wol/hots. I would even say PvT is better as well (entertaining wise, I don't know about playing). Only matchup I think got worse at least imo, is definitely ZvT. well muta/ling/bane does have the possibility of a comeback soon since the queen buff, because Terrans kind of go for drops more now than for Liberator harass. I'm sure Zergs will pick up on that soon ;D
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On August 13 2016 03:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2016 03:07 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Whats with the sudden resurgence of LotV haters today At least the HotS swarm host lovers haven't popped up yet. I miss getting to play aggressive SH tbh
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On August 13 2016 03:09 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2016 03:08 las91 wrote:On August 13 2016 03:07 blade55555 wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 Luolis wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 RaFox17 wrote: Damn i hate Lotv ZvT. Speed vs. slow shit is not fun! Yeah, lotv in general is just bad. I disagree. While ZvT is worse in lotv entertainment wise (I miss muta/ling/bane ), I would say ZvP is way better then wol/hots. I would even say PvT is better as well (entertaining wise, I don't know about playing). Only matchup I think got worse at least imo, is definitely ZvT. the P matchups are way more fun I agree TvT looks the sameish and ZvT is worse in lotv IMO I think TvT is like the worst matchup in the game now. Tankivacs broke the matchup so hard that when i get it on ladder nowadays i just tend to f10+n
Ah yeah I can't speak about matchups I don't watch/play (hate mirror mu's, always have ). But tankivacs I have never been a fan of either. I would rather tanks get buffed a different way then how they are now.
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On August 13 2016 03:10 dNa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2016 03:07 blade55555 wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 Luolis wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 RaFox17 wrote: Damn i hate Lotv ZvT. Speed vs. slow shit is not fun! Yeah, lotv in general is just bad. I disagree. While ZvT is worse in lotv entertainment wise (I miss muta/ling/bane ), I would say ZvP is way better then wol/hots. I would even say PvT is better as well (entertaining wise, I don't know about playing). Only matchup I think got worse at least imo, is definitely ZvT. well muta/ling/bane does have the possibility of a comeback soon since the queen buff, because Terrans kind of go for drops more now than for Liberator harass. I'm sure Zergs will pick up on that soon ;D there's literally 0 reasons to make mutalisks versus Terran
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honestly anything is better than BL/infestor from 2012.
On August 13 2016 03:11 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2016 03:10 dNa wrote:On August 13 2016 03:07 blade55555 wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 Luolis wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 RaFox17 wrote: Damn i hate Lotv ZvT. Speed vs. slow shit is not fun! Yeah, lotv in general is just bad. I disagree. While ZvT is worse in lotv entertainment wise (I miss muta/ling/bane ), I would say ZvP is way better then wol/hots. I would even say PvT is better as well (entertaining wise, I don't know about playing). Only matchup I think got worse at least imo, is definitely ZvT. well muta/ling/bane does have the possibility of a comeback soon since the queen buff, because Terrans kind of go for drops more now than for Liberator harass. I'm sure Zergs will pick up on that soon ;D there's literally 0 reasons to make mutalisks versus Terran
I feel like 5-6 mutas to patrol/kill low medivacs would be interesting to see but probably too expensive
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On August 13 2016 03:10 dNa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2016 03:07 blade55555 wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 Luolis wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 RaFox17 wrote: Damn i hate Lotv ZvT. Speed vs. slow shit is not fun! Yeah, lotv in general is just bad. I disagree. While ZvT is worse in lotv entertainment wise (I miss muta/ling/bane ), I would say ZvP is way better then wol/hots. I would even say PvT is better as well (entertaining wise, I don't know about playing). Only matchup I think got worse at least imo, is definitely ZvT. well muta/ling/bane does have the possibility of a comeback soon since the queen buff, because Terrans kind of go for drops more now than for Liberator harass. I'm sure Zergs will pick up on that soon ;D
Then Terran makes 4 liberators after he sees muta's. Some Terran did that to leenock in GSL. Don't have to have liberators out before mutas.
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On August 13 2016 03:07 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Whats with the sudden resurgence of LotV haters today Welll, i've hated lotv since it was first announced. I just haven't been around the threads that often to say my mind about it
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And the obligatory
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On August 13 2016 03:11 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2016 03:10 dNa wrote:On August 13 2016 03:07 blade55555 wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 Luolis wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 RaFox17 wrote: Damn i hate Lotv ZvT. Speed vs. slow shit is not fun! Yeah, lotv in general is just bad. I disagree. While ZvT is worse in lotv entertainment wise (I miss muta/ling/bane ), I would say ZvP is way better then wol/hots. I would even say PvT is better as well (entertaining wise, I don't know about playing). Only matchup I think got worse at least imo, is definitely ZvT. well muta/ling/bane does have the possibility of a comeback soon since the queen buff, because Terrans kind of go for drops more now than for Liberator harass. I'm sure Zergs will pick up on that soon ;D there's literally 0 reasons to make mutalisks versus Terran I saw like 12 reasons fly arround Serral's base in the game we just watched mate
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On August 13 2016 03:11 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2016 03:10 dNa wrote:On August 13 2016 03:07 blade55555 wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 Luolis wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 RaFox17 wrote: Damn i hate Lotv ZvT. Speed vs. slow shit is not fun! Yeah, lotv in general is just bad. I disagree. While ZvT is worse in lotv entertainment wise (I miss muta/ling/bane ), I would say ZvP is way better then wol/hots. I would even say PvT is better as well (entertaining wise, I don't know about playing). Only matchup I think got worse at least imo, is definitely ZvT. well muta/ling/bane does have the possibility of a comeback soon since the queen buff, because Terrans kind of go for drops more now than for Liberator harass. I'm sure Zergs will pick up on that soon ;D Then Terran makes 4 liberators after he sees muta's. Some Terran did that to leenock in GSL. Don't have to have liberators out before mutas.
He did kinda commit to a high amount of mutas, though. If Liberators become less common, maybe we can get tech swaps between mutas and corruptors depending
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On August 13 2016 03:12 dNa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2016 03:11 Ej_ wrote:On August 13 2016 03:10 dNa wrote:On August 13 2016 03:07 blade55555 wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 Luolis wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 RaFox17 wrote: Damn i hate Lotv ZvT. Speed vs. slow shit is not fun! Yeah, lotv in general is just bad. I disagree. While ZvT is worse in lotv entertainment wise (I miss muta/ling/bane ), I would say ZvP is way better then wol/hots. I would even say PvT is better as well (entertaining wise, I don't know about playing). Only matchup I think got worse at least imo, is definitely ZvT. well muta/ling/bane does have the possibility of a comeback soon since the queen buff, because Terrans kind of go for drops more now than for Liberator harass. I'm sure Zergs will pick up on that soon ;D there's literally 0 reasons to make mutalisks versus Terran I saw like 12 reasons fly arround Serral's base in the game we just watched mate make mutas to defend drops, die to the push
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Every zvt I have seen in the last few months have looked the same. Zerg tries to survive and rush to ultras. Little by little Zergs seems to learn to defend better against drops but the games are so boring compare to old ling+bling+muta style.
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On August 13 2016 03:12 dNa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2016 03:11 Ej_ wrote:On August 13 2016 03:10 dNa wrote:On August 13 2016 03:07 blade55555 wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 Luolis wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 RaFox17 wrote: Damn i hate Lotv ZvT. Speed vs. slow shit is not fun! Yeah, lotv in general is just bad. I disagree. While ZvT is worse in lotv entertainment wise (I miss muta/ling/bane ), I would say ZvP is way better then wol/hots. I would even say PvT is better as well (entertaining wise, I don't know about playing). Only matchup I think got worse at least imo, is definitely ZvT. well muta/ling/bane does have the possibility of a comeback soon since the queen buff, because Terrans kind of go for drops more now than for Liberator harass. I'm sure Zergs will pick up on that soon ;D there's literally 0 reasons to make mutalisks versus Terran I saw like 12 reasons fly arround Serral's base in the game we just watched mate You get Corruptors vs those, atleast the money you invest into Corruptors doesn't suddenly disappear when Terran makes like 3 Liberators
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On August 13 2016 03:12 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2016 03:12 dNa wrote:On August 13 2016 03:11 Ej_ wrote:On August 13 2016 03:10 dNa wrote:On August 13 2016 03:07 blade55555 wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 Luolis wrote:On August 13 2016 03:06 RaFox17 wrote: Damn i hate Lotv ZvT. Speed vs. slow shit is not fun! Yeah, lotv in general is just bad. I disagree. While ZvT is worse in lotv entertainment wise (I miss muta/ling/bane ), I would say ZvP is way better then wol/hots. I would even say PvT is better as well (entertaining wise, I don't know about playing). Only matchup I think got worse at least imo, is definitely ZvT. well muta/ling/bane does have the possibility of a comeback soon since the queen buff, because Terrans kind of go for drops more now than for Liberator harass. I'm sure Zergs will pick up on that soon ;D there's literally 0 reasons to make mutalisks versus Terran I saw like 12 reasons fly arround Serral's base in the game we just watched mate make mutas to defend drops, die to the push
That's why you make sure to spawn cross on Frost.
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