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there are more meanings to this statement, especially with it's timing.
Indeed, Things have
Started.
y'all gotta find out how fast fast is
sson my uncle is 'bout 2 hrs south of y'all. He doesn't y'all ya'know, but he is regardless near you. Interesting.
Don't worry about it.
only hang-up is I am expecting a Suburban dude. What, you live in 2007?
That's an incredibly German-like expression; BUILD BUILD BUILD ENGINEERING PEOPLES :D
supermegaalakaslamfishes TECH SUPPORT PLS HELP MAH SLAMMED BUTT
Ten plus worthless posts. This is far more in line with the Slam I know T_T
Null as certain defect clones (UNLESS SECRETLY HE REACTED TO MY CALLING OUT OF HIS POTENTIALLY SERIUS PLAY BY GETTING SILLY, IM ON TO YOU SLAM)
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I like that Kurumi points this out as it bothered me as well, but for different reasons. Koshi's town meta isn't that he literally posts nothing as the game starts and he's present. I would have expected some sort of trademarkish "Koshi will play like this this game, Koshi is town", you probably know what I mean. When he talks of himself in third person and explains why he's playing differently, and if he isn''t he just shows some basic level of care.
What I dislike is the in my opinion too pushy tone here, which you would expect from someone in a heated discussion, but really not from someone who just entered the game. I would expect someone like that to be in a neutral, bored or motivated mood , but not really something like this.
Based on this post I will add Kurumi to my scumleans. I fully expect scum to distance from each other in ways like this, and I expect this to contribute to the pool of tells we can get from Koshi if he decides to reply to it.
I'm keeping the caveat that Kurumi likes to put up acts of all sorts in mafia games. So not an early priority for me as opposed to gum and LS who in my opinion did more stuff I'd be willing to put my money on.
I like this post alot, not just because it aligns with mah own views (thought that always helps) but because it evolves bilievably and it's easy to follow the process of thought
1:Kurumi starts town: Vivax sees his point on koshi, but comes from a diffrent view
2: dips scum :Vivax notes the agressive tone, which is unwaranted, (perhaps a product of adrenaline fitting with a first post of a scum game in some time.) I agree as much.
3: Not a priority: It's perfectly valid to hold someone off if you think they become easier to read later. I agree with that sentiment even if it's unfortunate in this case T_T
Noticing the last post while working through the thread, I got curious about shapes read on superbia, which leaves me wondering why shape is so interested about asking these questions which are the sort of questions you like to ask to your scumreads (I'm talking about his question to superbia). I kinda had the feeling there was something to be found here but it's still all pretty consistent besides the suspicion towards super in the last post, but when I look at it closely I'd put shape at the town side of null for the purpose of finding the D1 lynch.
Putting forth a bit of mindset work (ie he read him as scummish initially but concluded hes townish by the end) in a logical enough manner (though I would like Vivax to explain what consistent means EXACTLY in this case)
suggests an actual process as opposed to an agenda manufacturing reasons for hounding someone.
What sticks out is that Kurumi here is pretty focused on LS opinion on the vote without really bothering about his alignment so far. Also the aggressive tone vanished, could be a hint to the aggressive tone being the result of having to doing the first dive into the thread as scum, cause entering the thread as mafia is pretty hard for most out of fear of sounding awkward. And Kurumi came back from a hiatus, so would be consistent with him being mafia.
again, comes off as if this is the result of a process (trying to understand why someone might have backed off under pressure)
The notable diffrence here between his supiciun of kurumi and me as opposed to kurumis concerning me and licker is that Vivax sounds uncertain but confidant and feels like hes working through a puzzle. Kurumi just comes off as a brute certain that the puzzle pieces will fit cause the box says "good for ages 3 and under".
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tldr Vivax probs town, vengeance is likely at hand.
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y'know gumshoe. you sound like a nice dude who is frustrated, and you're new, and you seem to be trying really hard which is an admirable quality. so i will acquiesce to you for 1 post...to a degree....with a caveat...alright roll out dem god d1 readz:
We Dem Readz
Vivax + Show Spoiler +tryhard mode engaged, cares, noticing small details and making a fuss about them instead of painting in broad strokes
sicklucker + Show Spoiler + yo, cuz he ain't who he was last time and also he went deep for that pocket sudden flip of read on me when he had moment of clarity. i am yours baby, riding in your pocket protector until you flub up
gumshoe + Show Spoiler + foot -> mouth + can't see how town i am + early effort + frustration = newer town, get fukt my newbdar has been amazing recently but y'know i suck as town so w/e
superbia + Show Spoiler + upgraded to full green after consideration. the superbia of my mind lacks proper cojones to claim not VT as mafia and then do some stupidly bad retraction non-retraction stuff. probably town cuz too risky that early as mafia, doesn't strike me as a risk taker as mafia
justanothertownie + Show Spoiler +called what i was doing silly at what felt like standard jat timing, not too soon, not too late, and proper levels of shitting on it, not making a deal out of it. hate his hang back d1 style but he does it as both alignments so meh
obiwanshinobi + Show Spoiler +i love being told to go fuck myself, it makes me read people town generally
rsoultin + Show Spoiler +she isn't advancing the game, she slandered me for bad raisins, and she is trying to berate me into playing better which makes me wanna play worse. if she votes on me and goes back on her standard read then she is probably red. also stop defending LS -.- like srsly guy is intentionally trying to do different things and is probably aware of what he is doing and you're still defending him for old reasons even though he stated expressly he is trying to fuck with his standard of play...STAHHHHHPPPPP
damdred + Show Spoiler +this read may not have stuck after i realized VT may have diff names or there's so few of us that my strat works like doo doo; except damdred's level of general objection was so low that i feel like it is probably true anywayz. also him saying my picture was boring was both hurtful and out of character since he know outside of trying to be funny (how is a random car picture funny?) my pictures usually have a function.
lightningstrike + Show Spoiler +nothing has changed: On March 24 2016 10:22 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 10:17 LightningStrike wrote:On March 24 2016 10:16 ritoky wrote: SL vivax
supebia
damdred
lightningstrike What you don't like about me? Talk to me bro. usage of "weird" and "odd" assume a conclusion before asking for clarification having no stated response or conclusion to the clarification not thinking vivax noticing small details is townie over defensive response to vivax pressure -> immediately to "you're like hf trying to ml me" questions that don't lead to fruitful places still applies
tumblewood + Show Spoiler + opportune pile on time when previously holding an opinion of "NAI", not doing a whole lot in general but specifically to advance his read on me from NAI to scum -> pure reactionary piling, not checking off a lot of my "things newer players do as town" boxes; thus might be the other alignment
if you didn't make the list sorry, try harder next time to make me feel something about you in my loins.
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some quickies
On March 24 2016 12:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I think SL is town because his thought process felt a bit more nuanced and energetic at points compared to the last game I played with him where he was scum.
This seems fine in terms of logic, also confident and simple (not my strengths but I can appreciate them from afar)
Also I agree with his read of Rit, while I think Rit COULD do this as town it comes off as rather pointless at best and fairly destructive at worst. Could ez be scum.
Obi is townish despite very little effort, take that for what it's worth (not too much ) : def not a day 1 lynch. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Koshi
prewritten for sure, utterly null. I see him as an active helpfull towner who would probally offer an excuse if he was planning to be this inactive. Dont like too much
Scumish (40/60)
Jat
Don't have too many. I read the first pages earlier and they were full of uninteresting gibberish. Now I just read the most recent ones because I somehow can't sleep/headache.
meh as fuck, dont know how to read excuses frankly. He could very well be feeling shit, or he could be spouting it. SHOW ME THE TYLENOL JAT. THE PEOPLE WANT PROOF.
scumish until pics. (60/40)
Licker
dont like his role talk, dont like how he assumed what super was reffering to with his vote on me. Also feels pretty meh in his posts, both in content and atitutde (apathetic would be the world)
scumish (50/50 ----------------------------- tumbleweed
Seeing four people on the gumshoe wagon this early, I'm getting more lynchbait-y vibes from gumshoe. His entrance to the thread was super awkward, and it seems that that is a large basis for all of the votes except Vivax's. If he flips town, one of Superb, SL, Kurumi, and Vivax is scum.
dis guy seems legit.
also like this from him
I'm really not seeing it... why is LS town? You said earlier it was because "he had a few really transparent posts", but I'm not sure what those are.
seems like hes trying to understand a vague opinion and comes off pretty calm and attentive in his posts. Seems fine.
townish. ---------------------------------- rsoultin:
has a meandering post style, hard to read, but sounds like hes having fun
you're my town friend ^^ -curls up with- but prob not my buddy
his posts are very light and he doesnt come off as stressed at all, which says something cause he has exams atm. I get the sense that playing town for him is stress relief ( to an extent) I couldnt imagine him bieng as chill as he is at this time if he was scum (could be skittled, but more likely hes just having fun)
townish ------------------------------- Light
he is ethier a perceptive townie or the pocket monster, I have no objectivity
townish cause I wanna believe.
das all I got.
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[QUOTE]On March 24 2016 16:55 ritoky wrote: y'know gumshoe. you sound like a nice dude who is frustrated, and you're new, and you seem to be trying really hard which is an admirable quality.
you bastard XD
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On March 24 2016 16:25 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +there are more meanings to this statement, especially with it's timing.
Indeed, Things have
Started. Show nested quote +sson my uncle is 'bout 2 hrs south of y'all. He doesn't y'all ya'know, but he is regardless near you. Interesting. Show nested quote +That's an incredibly German-like expression; BUILD BUILD BUILD ENGINEERING PEOPLES :D Ten plus worthless posts. This is far more in line with the Slam I know T_T Null as certain defect clones (UNLESS SECRETLY HE REACTED TO MY CALLING OUT OF HIS POTENTIALLY SERIUS PLAY BY GETTING SILLY, IM ON TO YOU SLAM) These posts will be more clear in time.
They are not in fact meaningless. (Well, some are. But that's part of hiding seasoned info)
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On March 24 2016 16:55 ritoky wrote:y'know gumshoe. you sound like a nice dude who is frustrated, and you're new, and you seem to be trying really hard which is an admirable quality. so i will acquiesce to you for 1 post...to a degree....with a caveat...alright roll out dem god d1 readz: We Dem ReadzVivax + Show Spoiler +tryhard mode engaged, cares, noticing small details and making a fuss about them instead of painting in broad strokes sicklucker + Show Spoiler + yo, cuz he ain't who he was last time and also he went deep for that pocket sudden flip of read on me when he had moment of clarity. i am yours baby, riding in your pocket protector until you flub up gumshoe + Show Spoiler + foot -> mouth + can't see how town i am + early effort + frustration = newer town, get fukt my newbdar has been amazing recently but y'know i suck as town so w/e superbia + Show Spoiler + upgraded to full green after consideration. the superbia of my mind lacks proper cojones to claim not VT as mafia and then do some stupidly bad retraction non-retraction stuff. probably town cuz too risky that early as mafia, doesn't strike me as a risk taker as mafia justanothertownie + Show Spoiler +called what i was doing silly at what felt like standard jat timing, not too soon, not too late, and proper levels of shitting on it, not making a deal out of it. hate his hang back d1 style but he does it as both alignments so meh obiwanshinobi + Show Spoiler +i love being told to go fuck myself, it makes me read people town generally rsoultin + Show Spoiler +she isn't advancing the game, she slandered me for bad raisins, and she is trying to berate me into playing better which makes me wanna play worse. if she votes on me and goes back on her standard read then she is probably red. also stop defending LS -.- like srsly guy is intentionally trying to do different things and is probably aware of what he is doing and you're still defending him for old reasons even though he stated expressly he is trying to fuck with his standard of play...STAHHHHHPPPPP damdred + Show Spoiler +this read may not have stuck after i realized VT may have diff names or there's so few of us that my strat works like doo doo; except damdred's level of general objection was so low that i feel like it is probably true anywayz. also him saying my picture was boring was both hurtful and out of character since he know outside of trying to be funny (how is a random car picture funny?) my pictures usually have a function. lightningstrike + Show Spoiler +nothing has changed: On March 24 2016 10:22 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 10:17 LightningStrike wrote:On March 24 2016 10:16 ritoky wrote: SL vivax
supebia
damdred
lightningstrike What you don't like about me? Talk to me bro. usage of "weird" and "odd" assume a conclusion before asking for clarification having no stated response or conclusion to the clarification not thinking vivax noticing small details is townie over defensive response to vivax pressure -> immediately to "you're like hf trying to ml me" questions that don't lead to fruitful places still applies tumblewood + Show Spoiler + opportune pile on time when previously holding an opinion of "NAI", not doing a whole lot in general but specifically to advance his read on me from NAI to scum -> pure reactionary piling, not checking off a lot of my "things newer players do as town" boxes; thus might be the other alignment if you didn't make the list sorry, try harder next time to make me feel something about you in my loins. Gumshoe was here long before I was
Am I new?
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Gumshoe making me rethink convictions over here. Hmm.
Must sleep on it, real quick
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Announcement:
gumshoe the Expedition Member has been shot. He is now dead.
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DAT ANGLESHOOTING THO! CONF TOWN ME BAE. + Show Spoiler +ignore the part where mods may have distributed fake role pms to mafia that makes me not fully confirmed, altho the "you don't get unnecessary stuff bit" makes me doubt it a bit WHY THE FUCK DID HE NOT RESPOND POSITIVELY TO ME THO? DAT FORD EXPEDITION PICTURE OP!
wow i am legit proud of myself right now for how i gamed dis bitch. i mean it crumbled in flames and didn't yield what i wanted but that's on other people not responding properly imo, the plan was solid in my head and in my heart.
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Confirmed Town + Show Spoiler + Likely Town + Show Spoiler +gumshoe (this guy is obvious town, if you pursue him you are mafia) (yes, I placed him here and typed that before he got shot by a baddie, who shot him? If it as ritoky he is the D1 lynch) Maybe town + Show Spoiler + Not going to lynch Town + Show Spoiler +rsoultin Tumblewood Superbia (really disliked that first list post, otherwise you would be higher)
Null + Show Spoiler +VayneAuthority Stutters695 sandroba ObiWanShinobi Rels justanothertownie Tictock Alakaslam Shapelog Tubesock
Won't lynch right now Mafia + Show Spoiler +riktoky Kurumi Damdred sicklucker ( Didn't like how you saw something on LS and then weakened your position on LS by saying the 50/50 wasn't a real 50/50) LightningStrike (Can rsoultin explain to me why this guy is town?)
Maybe Mafia + Show Spoiler + Likely Mafia + Show Spoiler + Confirmed Mafia + Show Spoiler +
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I will already break my plan just to say this:
gumshoe was the most obvious and hardest working townie in the game. He was super obvious town. Not from his start, but from everything after that.
If ritoky shot him. I highly suggest Alakaslam shoots ritoky.
Incredible how bad that shot was. Truly.
PS: I didn't know that was a ford explorer. I also know Palmar puts all the role pms in the scum QT. I also know ritoky is bold scum. PSII: I really hate ritoky.
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Holy shit 4 people already voted gumshoe. I can't believe this. Most obvious townie ever.
##vote ritoky
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Confirmed Town + Show Spoiler + Likely Town + Show Spoiler +gumshoe (this guy is obvious town, if you pursue him you are mafia) (yes, I placed him here and typed that before he got shot by a baddie, who shot him? If it as ritoky he is the D1 lynch) Alakaslam (I take it you are also a dayvig? Shoot ritoky please) Maybe town + Show Spoiler + Not going to lynch Town + Show Spoiler +rsoultin Tumblewood Superbia (really disliked that first list post, otherwise you would be higher)
Null + Show Spoiler +VayneAuthority Stutters695 sandroba ObiWanShinobi Rels justanothertownie Tictock Shapelog Tubesock
Won't lynch right now Mafia + Show Spoiler +Kurumi Damdred sicklucker ( Didn't like how you saw something on LS and then weakened your position on LS by saying the 50/50 wasn't a real 50/50) LightningStrike (Can rsoultin explain to me why this guy is town?)
Maybe Mafia + Show Spoiler + Likely Mafia + Show Spoiler + Confirmed Mafia rikoky Yeah, he shot him, should have posted my reads 1 hour ago before I wasted that hour rereading everything. I might have been able to fucking pressure ritoky out of his ridiculous opportunistic shot. But between all the bluehunting and shooting the most obvious town that would be confirmed town VERY QUICKLY due to sheer willingness to play the game, in a game that doesn't allow for replacements and has a bunch of people who didn't post anything yet, ritoky always needs to die here. (I already hear the incoming retarded arguments that "ritoky is town because why would he do it as mafia?" I agree, last game he did have the decency to wait till N2 (and all vets died) to take an opportunistic shot as mafia, but I DO NOT GIVE A SINGLE FUCK. Town cannot lynch these kind of selfish and frankly retarded plays to go unpunished. He should be mafia, but if he isn't, he needs to die as well.
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Ohyeah, Confirmed mafia not being in spoilers is intended. So that every time I update my reads you people can see why this guy needs to die ASAP.
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EBWOP
Town cannot not lynch these kind of selfish and frankly retarded plays to go unpunished. He should be mafia, but if he isn't, he needs to die as well.
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Fuck
EBWOP 2 Town cannot not allow these kind of selfish and frankly retarded plays to go unpunished. He should be mafia, but if he isn't, he needs to die as well.
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FUCK MY LIFE NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT I WANTED TO SAY
EBWOP 3 Town cannot allow these kind of selfish and frankly retarded plays to go unpunished. He should be mafia, but if he isn't, he needs to die as well.
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This not posting anything except names with minimal explanation is not going well.
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