On March 24 2016 13:06 Damdred wrote: Nobody is confirmed in a closed setup until they die basically, there is always doubt that's why bill hard carried last storm by fake claiming blue and town eating it up.
Give up the fishing and its kind of a meh conversation honestly.
LS is probably town tour read rit is just horrible on him in general.
Anyway
I'm really not seeing it... why is LS town? You said earlier it was because "he had a few really transparent posts", but I'm not sure what those are.
Its hard to explain, he's involved to a greater extent than when he is scum. He cares more how people view him. His tone attitude there is a lot that I think is towny.
But yeah I hard defend ls as either alignment. So there's that to.
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On March 24 2016 12:56 LightningStrike wrote: Am I your buddy Tina?
you're my town friend ^^ -curls up with- but prob not my buddy
I should be your buddy though O_o
well then maybe you should get on that lol ><
anywhooo...have class tomorrow and don't need to spam this thread up more than i already have
word to the wise, rit...get useful ^^ my itch to lynch you isn't going away
nah, i plan to stay at my current capacity. i carried and dumped too much effort into my last couple games and haven't spammed pictures or been a useless pile of shit in a while. gotta level that play and stick to my style of high variance. of course i say that today while i am emotionally stable, and i am prone to getting mad or sad and being a spamlord.
but that said i was angle shooting to locate all the VT in the game whatchoo done to advance the game suckafoo? other than slander my LS read, which while normally terrible was better than every non-mafia player's read on him last game which makes my epeen a little bit larger than others and out of proper slanderation range.
also i don't think you'll vote on me because it will make you pretty much mafia 8 out of 10 times. firstly because i am pretty much rock solid VT to an undeniable degree, plus i am being an arrogant provoking prick right here instead of ingratiating myself with people and driving for a foothold in town circle which is my general day 1 strat as mafia. but mostly because it violates your own established read on me, which is...and I QUOTE "wow, every time i think rit is town he is mafia and every time i think he is mafia, he is town >< i need to flip my read" -rsoultin, some random amount of time ago
but really what it comes down to is that in closed setups as VT it is great to locate other VT or gauge how many VT are in the game and begin forming a coalition; an expedition if you will. it creates a situation where if we VT can properly locate eachother and form a block, then mafia must deal with us and our power otherwise they are conceding day phases. so either they concede day phases to a degree by ignoring us or they let us dominate day phases and target blues. locating other VTs as VT is amazingly beneficial in closed setups and worth angle shooting or fishing to find; people who think otherwise have an entirely different mindset about procedural play in mafia than i do and we probably disagree on most things.
VTs unite, let us go on our expedition together. and by let us go on our expedition together i mean let's all unite and get together and then you guys carry me to the end cuz i currently lack the effort levels to carry another game. i just wanna be like the guy who barely makes it on frame in the super hero team picture.
also tumblewood might be mafia for dat random pile on @ opportune time with little else done or said, but who actually read this hot trash i just dropped that most people will probably think is disruptive to the game rather than actually a decent idea that can only come from town. or they will just say "nai troll" and move on waiting for me to get pissed off and change, but i plan to muster everything inside me, become a person of the gutter, steel my belly; and hold onto my current performance levels for as long as i can.
LET'S GO ON AN EXPEDITION YO'S FO RIZZZZZZZLLLELEEEEELELELELELELELELELELLELELELEELLELE
why didn't i stop typing 5 mins ago, this was better and funnier when it was shorter, now it is just kinda sad rambling. a person with a good sense of humor is like a good chef, you need to know restraint. when to stop and simply leave the turd lying on the floor awkwardly. i did not have that restraint here and thus the comedic value dropped quite substantially. it makes me sad a little bit; but at some point the tedium and rambling becomes funny again? right? right?
Where's the explanation sicklucker?! I disagree that talking about Slam is an indicator of being scum (in this case) - the way gumshoe has talked about Slam is an indicator of being scum. Huge difference.
just voted for Kurumi, but yeah my primary problem is she is pursuing two reads that are fairly opposed without a hint of reservation regarding that conflict.
From a townie perspective those two reads would clash and be worthy of note in provided logic, but it hasnt even occured to Kurumi insofar. What seems more likely is she just doesnt want to draw atention to the Janus nature of her current logic, a setup that favours an outcome for scum wherein I and lick are both town. it feels like an opinion born of machinations rather then genuine perspective. Poisened at it's root with contradiction.
(ok now I'll go out.... ON A HIGH NOTE)
I opinion born of machinations rather then genuine perspective.
You are clearly trying to twist your errors so they fit your narrative. I've never called sicklucker scum. I only have said that his reason for voting you is: a) nonexistent as in, he never gave his own reason for that b) the one we can dig up from his one-liner is that he feels that talking about Slam early is scum-indicative, which I disagree. As I said before, the way you talk about Slam is scummy, not the fact you have talked about him at all. As you can see, I have my vote casted on nobody. Not you, not sicklucker. The reason? I believed that you might really be a Townie with a really weird approach, so I pushed you to give me an explanation for your actions. Your explanation so far was that you've done those things to do anything at all for the sake of not being accused of doing nothing. That is not a Townie perspective.
As for sicklucker, I still await his response. Can you be both scum? Sure, you can be. His vote has weight of zero, being so fast and based on a such dubious reasoning. There's nothing contradictory in a story where sicklucker votes for you because he sees you dun goofed and then he "changes his mind" based on your explanations. He voted in such a way it is very easy to unvote you. There was no case or explanation given. But that's not the story I believe in. I believe that sicklucker has laid down a weak vote because he could. Really, it doesn't require much to vote, I could vote anyone right now, especially a person who has not shown up yet and what happens? Nothing. Everyone knows that my vote is a weak one. I could pick a one line off someone's post this early, which is not strongly indicative and decide that's my reason for voting. It's a weak vote - everyone will see that. If he were to unvote you it would not say much to me, yet. But I believe he will be more dead-set on you after your follow-up play.
And I am not "setting up a lynch". You are doing it yourself. Setting up a lynch is enraging Kavdragon and pushing your agenda so Town agrees that his anger and his play is not Town-oriented. I want to lynch you based on what you have said and what you have done, not what explanations I give to people. I am not trying to create a narrative surrounding your actions: I am openly questioning them and your explanations, your own words, condemn you. After the initial "well I am a weak player, I make mistakes, oh well, but they were good mistakes! Ones to be done!" you go after me as if your previous actions did not take place. I called your behaviour into question, you have defended it, never explaining how are they not scum-indicative, but saying over and over that it's just you being bad. When I called you on your iffy reasoning for thinking people are scummy - you have not commented on that.
You have defended fishing as a townie thing to do. No, fishing (that is, trying to get a role read off someone) is not a townie thing to do. As a townie, you do not try to give information that mafia might act upon! What good can come from getting someone to claim VT or non-VT? None! None for a townie!
All in all, all you have done this game is post the way a scared scum feels like, admit to it, defend a scum agenda and try to paint me in a bad light. That won't pass. I am now voting you, because I am sure that you are Mafia.
On March 24 2016 09:13 Shapelog wrote: Kurminia or how ever you spell that name. Since you hate this role talk, lets talk something else.
What is your favorite color of a bomb pop? Also do you have any stances on player's alignment yet that you have not meation?
It's Kurumi and I am a he. I have no idea what a bomb pop is and why it should matter. Yes, I do. I am very vary of ritoky, I like Superbia, LightningStorm. No idea what your sonic post was meant to bring to the thread. You seem to like the idea of gumshoe being town, but you have so far not done much to defend him or anything else. Why are you so careless about your town-read being the main topic so far?
the same way you can interpret my posts, which actually amount to null (which is what I assumed was the problem with them) as scum oriented, I can far EASILY interpret your crumbing of Slick as scum implication -_-
my point on slam was :uncharacteristic, but it's wrong to say that active aware play when out of char is a scum tell
my point on Dam amounted to : Could use some meta work (which I did, and concluded was townie)
my point on Superbia was he was likely townie with his mentality of yay town lets play but could still of course be scum cause mafia (an opinion I later leaned townie on cause of his questioning and lack of fear)
I at no point called them scummy, they were the only people in thread of note to comment on so I commented on them in my own manner because I wanted to play, not wait for someone fuck up so I could pounce like you / :
Also you claim im twisting my errors to fit my narrative, where we disagree is on account of me having made any errors in the first place. I offered my thoughts to the game at an early stage and everyone leaped because thats what scum and townies (read townies who have never played with me and or idiots/misguided) do every game I play / :
I find your back peddeling on lick funny btw
also im not referring to fishing as role hunting, but rather scum/town reaction hunting which is what I figured Dandred was doing, I am not the only one who considers fishing in this manner as Slam implied as much before me.
fish folks
so was slam calling for people to start hunting for blue roles early on? Or was he just calling for people to start baiting scum? I think it's pretty clear which kind of fishing he and I were referring to and to see any other sort as what we were hinting at reveals just how little you care about what I am actually saying as opposed to what you think you can hammer me for.
On March 24 2016 12:56 LightningStrike wrote: Am I your buddy Tina?
you're my town friend ^^ -curls up with- but prob not my buddy
I should be your buddy though O_o
well then maybe you should get on that lol ><
anywhooo...have class tomorrow and don't need to spam this thread up more than i already have
word to the wise, rit...get useful ^^ my itch to lynch you isn't going away
nah, i plan to stay at my current capacity. i carried and dumped too much effort into my last couple games and haven't spammed pictures or been a useless pile of shit in a while. gotta level that play and stick to my style of high variance. of course i say that today while i am emotionally stable, and i am prone to getting mad or sad and being a spamlord.
but that said i was angle shooting to locate all the VT in the game whatchoo done to advance the game suckafoo? other than slander my LS read, which while normally terrible was better than every non-mafia player's read on him last game which makes my epeen a little bit larger than others and out of proper slanderation range.
also i don't think you'll vote on me because it will make you pretty much mafia 8 out of 10 times. firstly because i am pretty much rock solid VT to an undeniable degree, plus i am being an arrogant provoking prick right here instead of ingratiating myself with people and driving for a foothold in town circle which is my general day 1 strat as mafia. but mostly because it violates your own established read on me, which is...and I QUOTE "wow, every time i think rit is town he is mafia and every time i think he is mafia, he is town >< i need to flip my read" -rsoultin, some random amount of time ago
but really what it comes down to is that in closed setups as VT it is great to locate other VT or gauge how many VT are in the game and begin forming a coalition; an expedition if you will. it creates a situation where if we VT can properly locate eachother and form a block, then mafia must deal with us and our power otherwise they are conceding day phases. so either they concede day phases to a degree by ignoring us or they let us dominate day phases and target blues. locating other VTs as VT is amazingly beneficial in closed setups and worth angle shooting or fishing to find; people who think otherwise have an entirely different mindset about procedural play in mafia than i do and we probably disagree on most things.
VTs unite, let us go on our expedition together. and by let us go on our expedition together i mean let's all unite and get together and then you guys carry me to the end cuz i currently lack the effort levels to carry another game. i just wanna be like the guy who barely makes it on frame in the super hero team picture.
also tumblewood might be mafia for dat random pile on @ opportune time with little else done or said, but who actually read this hot trash i just dropped that most people will probably think is disruptive to the game rather than actually a decent idea that can only come from town. or they will just say "nai troll" and move on waiting for me to get pissed off and change, but i plan to muster everything inside me, become a person of the gutter, steel my belly; and hold onto my current performance levels for as long as i can.
LET'S GO ON AN EXPEDITION YO'S FO RIZZZZZZZLLLELEEEEELELELELELELELELELELLELELELEELLELE
why didn't i stop typing 5 mins ago, this was better and funnier when it was shorter, now it is just kinda sad rambling. a person with a good sense of humor is like a good chef, you need to know restraint. when to stop and simply leave the turd lying on the floor awkwardly. i did not have that restraint here and thus the comedic value dropped quite substantially. it makes me sad a little bit; but at some point the tedium and rambling becomes funny again? right? right?
No more joke posts please / : it makes you stupid hard to read and or just plain stupid
I also hate your vt flaunt -_- if your blue it draws attention, if your actual vt you may possibly be making life harder for blues. Also literally offering reads on whose vt and whose not 0_0 why give information like that? If your bieng deceptive why risk a reaction from someone less aware of your shit? Anything meant to fool scum likely fools town a day in advance. It just seems so uneccecairy for day 1 and any reads you may nab from your antics are ofset by the sketchiness you cloak yourself in that thereby invalidate your intel.
All in all, I hate the way your playing and the detrimental play hidden by your meta veneer of IDGAF could very well be a scum ruse.