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On October 08 2015 01:26 Onegu wrote: Alright marv just for you the next game we play together I will play serious and get my game face on. <3 I'm only teasing (ish).
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On October 08 2015 01:30 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 01:27 justanothertownie wrote:On October 08 2015 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote: rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia. I take a step forward and just quit. that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot. If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :> The thing is while rayn absolutely should do that you absolutely should not :p The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc. that's not a problem. you are never lynched because of it when you are town. you have the charisma and writing skills to actually convince people to not lynch you even if they think you are mafia. Except when he isn't around. It almost happened :/ I've actually had more close shaves than I care to remember in this 3 year streak I'm on. Palmar (as town) came within about a vote of getting me lynched in a large game quite a long time ago. Had to claim cop to avoid a lynch in some game. Almost got lynched by you in that game and got v lucky with chess timings. Hm. Last game was my first one and since I won't have any more time than I had the last 2 games in the forseeable future it will probably happen again should I (against my better judgement) decide to play.
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On October 08 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote: rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia. I take a step forward and just quit. that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot. If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :> The thing is while rayn absolutely should do that you absolutely should not :p The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc. that's not a problem. you are never lynched because of it when you are town. you have the charisma and writing skills to actually convince people to not lynch you even if they think you are mafia. I'm not talking about in terms of getting lynched. It's clear lynching me as town is nearly impossible. I mean in terms of game-solving, the thought it requires, the going back and checking/looking at stuff, missing and being unable to direct the flow of the game for long periods, etc etc mmm okay. but like... when you are not considered town noone will listen to you (unless you yell it to their faces). except for you. you are listened to, always.
For example take Titanic VII or the game where Koshi mindlessly tunneled me and lynched me ove Onegu who was scum. I was so fucking close to throw that game for reals..... I hate that shit. I was right on everything (when it mattered) but he decided to call me mafia all game long.
idk... it's one thing to miss important stuff, but it's another thing for the town to miss ALL important stuff and cover it with dumbass meta shit. And that's what has happened lately.
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On October 08 2015 01:31 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: First you start o not care as scum, then you start to not care as town either because people are dumb. Maybe you should stop thinking that high of yourself because although you are clearly a good player you have some awful awful reads from times to times - in a sense that a laid back Marv could see why shining was scum on day one and you simply gave him a town pass. Being logical =\= being smart, although being smart requires being logical. This is not a game just about logic. If you want to play with logic, you should try sudoku not going to answer this shit.
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On October 08 2015 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2015 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote: rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia. I take a step forward and just quit. that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot. If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :> The thing is while rayn absolutely should do that you absolutely should not :p The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc. that's not a problem. you are never lynched because of it when you are town. you have the charisma and writing skills to actually convince people to not lynch you even if they think you are mafia. I'm not talking about in terms of getting lynched. It's clear lynching me as town is nearly impossible. I mean in terms of game-solving, the thought it requires, the going back and checking/looking at stuff, missing and being unable to direct the flow of the game for long periods, etc etc mmm okay. but like... when you are not considered town noone will listen to you (unless you yell it to their faces). except for you. you are listened to, always. For example take Titanic VII or the game where Koshi mindlessly tunneled me and lynched me ove Onegu who was scum. I was so fucking close to throw that game for reals..... I hate that shit. I was right on everything (when it mattered) but he decided to call me mafia all game long. idk... it's one thing to miss important stuff, but it's another thing for the town to miss ALL important stuff and cover it with dumbass meta shit. And that's what has happened lately. Mafia by nature of the game is full of flawed, egotistical individuals (just to be clear, i'm not saying anyone who plays mafia is more flawed than anyone who doesn't :p) who make mistakes. Of course this doesn't stop me ranting about things that annoy me (unexplained firm townread meta) but meh, it is what it is, and when that fad passes, an equally dumb one will probably take its place.
Mafia is very much a game of imperfection and you're trying to approach it from an idealistic standpoint that the nature of the game isn't suited to
edit: yes, it's also very nice to have everyone listen to you by default somehow.
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On October 08 2015 01:35 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2015 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote: rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia. I take a step forward and just quit. that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot. If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :> The thing is while rayn absolutely should do that you absolutely should not :p The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc. that's not a problem. you are never lynched because of it when you are town. you have the charisma and writing skills to actually convince people to not lynch you even if they think you are mafia. I'm not talking about in terms of getting lynched. It's clear lynching me as town is nearly impossible. I mean in terms of game-solving, the thought it requires, the going back and checking/looking at stuff, missing and being unable to direct the flow of the game for long periods, etc etc mmm okay. but like... when you are not considered town noone will listen to you (unless you yell it to their faces). except for you. you are listened to, always. For example take Titanic VII or the game where Koshi mindlessly tunneled me and lynched me ove Onegu who was scum. I was so fucking close to throw that game for reals..... I hate that shit. I was right on everything (when it mattered) but he decided to call me mafia all game long. idk... it's one thing to miss important stuff, but it's another thing for the town to miss ALL important stuff and cover it with dumbass meta shit. And that's what has happened lately. Mafia by nature of the game is full of flawed, egotistical individuals (just to be clear, i'm not saying anyone who plays mafia is more flawed than anyone who doesn't :p) who make mistakes. Of course this doesn't stop me ranting about things that annoy me (unexplained firm townread meta) but meh, it is what it is, and when that fad passes, an equally dumb one will probably take its place. Mafia is very much a game of imperfection and you're trying to approach it from an idealistic standpoint that the nature of the game isn't suited to edit: yes, it's also very nice to have everyone listen to you by default somehow. ofc this is true. but let me ask you this: how do you think i managed to lynch scum after scum early on this year?
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answer: townies were not stupid.
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Townies were not stupid, or the circumstances of the game were that you were able to read townie stupidity as townie stupidty and not mafia stupidity, you happened to be in a rich vein of form, or however many other factors.
Like I said before there will always be highs and lows.
Enjoy the highs, and then just ride out the lows. Quitting because everyone is being shit just makes you a pussy. Don't be a pussy.
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On October 08 2015 01:41 marvellosity wrote: Townies were not stupid, or the circumstances of the game were that you were able to read townie stupidity as townie stupidty and not mafia stupidity, you happened to be in a rich vein of form, or however many other factors.
Like I said before there will always be highs and lows.
Enjoy the highs, and then just ride out the lows. Quitting because everyone is being shit just makes you a pussy. Don't be a pussy. Calling people a pussy will get you modkilled by some hosts I won't name. Better be careful about that.
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hahahaha. that was great.
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I am not quitting because i am a pussy. I ma quitting because i don't enjoy playing with people who don't play.
I am playing fairly well as either alignment when people play (like XXX), and while i heavily disagree with the outcome of that game because it was for shit reasons, i agree with it. Like i should prolly killed other people or played better, or me and JAT should both played better on D1. But that game was actually a GAME, other games have felt like shit (in a sense that it's just -- boring) lately. deconduo game was good imo, except i didn't really get to play it because of the shit moosy pulled off. but it was a good game, for sure.
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On October 08 2015 01:09 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 01:05 Rels wrote: bah we'll see. I have a long way to go before playing town like you do! At the moment I had a lot of fun in every game I played (= except that part where I called rsoultin a stupid moron because I was mad lol <3 i consider it a compliment, really! for a rational scum rels to respond to my case like that means i had a rock-solid case i mentioned in the QT to nocturne that your response actually solidified my scumread, since you were trying to figure out the scum between sicklucker and myself and your response to my case on you was "you stupid moron!" lol but i doubt i'll be able to explain why the emotions don't fit a town mindset to anyone who doesn't understand it just seeing it my Achilles heel so to speak...or one of them Yeah that case was really the best case that could made on me. Well fucking played. I played sloppily at times but the only real inconsistent thing was that I townread GB N1 when I claimed roleblocker, and you nailed it. I was so mad because moosy claim made one million less sense than mine, he had so many things illogical that I pointed out, and I was caught by one smaaaaaall thing :p
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marv, if i get burned out by a single game that much it must be a good game. I literally put all my effort i ever had into that game and i was so pissed off when i didn't win. I fucking cracked into pieces. That is the truth.
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On October 08 2015 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not quitting because i am a pussy. I ma quitting because i don't enjoy playing with people who don't play.
I am playing fairly well as either alignment when people play (like XXX), and while i heavily disagree with the outcome of that game because it was for shit reasons, i agree with it. Like i should prolly killed other people or played better, or me and JAT should both played better on D1. But that game was actually a GAME, other games have felt like shit (in a sense that it's just -- boring) lately. deconduo game was good imo, except i didn't really get to play it because of the shit moosy pulled off. but it was a good game, for sure. There will always be people who don't play too.
That's not a new thing. Maybe some games will have more inactivity or shitness than others, that will always be the case.
There's definitely a group of newer players who all play pretty hard though (Fidei, Rels etc, all these players I know next to nothing about :p)
Anyway I'm not going to carry on trying to convince you of anything. I just think you're being silly.
I would like you to continue playing. With me. You enhance my experience. Stop being selfish :p
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On October 08 2015 01:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: marv, if i get burned out by a single game that much it must be a good game. I literally put all my effort i ever had into that game and i was so pissed off when i didn't win. I fucking cracked into pieces. That is the truth. It was a fantastic game, it really was.
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On October 08 2015 01:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 01:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: marv, if i get burned out by a single game that much it must be a good game. I literally put all my effort i ever had into that game and i was so pissed off when i didn't win. I fucking cracked into pieces. That is the truth. It was a fantastic game, it really was. I know it was.
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On October 08 2015 01:46 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 01:09 rsoultin wrote:On October 08 2015 01:05 Rels wrote: bah we'll see. I have a long way to go before playing town like you do! At the moment I had a lot of fun in every game I played (= except that part where I called rsoultin a stupid moron because I was mad lol <3 i consider it a compliment, really! for a rational scum rels to respond to my case like that means i had a rock-solid case i mentioned in the QT to nocturne that your response actually solidified my scumread, since you were trying to figure out the scum between sicklucker and myself and your response to my case on you was "you stupid moron!" lol but i doubt i'll be able to explain why the emotions don't fit a town mindset to anyone who doesn't understand it just seeing it my Achilles heel so to speak...or one of them Yeah that case was really the best case that could made on me. Well fucking played. I played sloppily at times but the only real inconsistent thing was that I townread GB N1 when I claimed roleblocker, and you nailed it. I was so mad because moosy claim made one million less sense than mine,he had so many things illogical that I pointed out, and I was caught by one smaaaaaall thing :p what you're missing is that what i've highlighted is generally townie
usually (not always) town claims can be very messy and illogical and things don't make sense. mafia claims are usually much tidier.
didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also.
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On October 08 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote: didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also. yeah it was. although that was never a reason anyone (rsoultin) read Rels mafia for it. And i do know for a fact moosy does illogical shit as scum aswell. so.. meh...
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On October 08 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 01:46 Rels wrote:On October 08 2015 01:09 rsoultin wrote:On October 08 2015 01:05 Rels wrote: bah we'll see. I have a long way to go before playing town like you do! At the moment I had a lot of fun in every game I played (= except that part where I called rsoultin a stupid moron because I was mad lol <3 i consider it a compliment, really! for a rational scum rels to respond to my case like that means i had a rock-solid case i mentioned in the QT to nocturne that your response actually solidified my scumread, since you were trying to figure out the scum between sicklucker and myself and your response to my case on you was "you stupid moron!" lol but i doubt i'll be able to explain why the emotions don't fit a town mindset to anyone who doesn't understand it just seeing it my Achilles heel so to speak...or one of them Yeah that case was really the best case that could made on me. Well fucking played. I played sloppily at times but the only real inconsistent thing was that I townread GB N1 when I claimed roleblocker, and you nailed it. I was so mad because moosy claim made one million less sense than mine,he had so many things illogical that I pointed out, and I was caught by one smaaaaaall thing :p what you're missing is that what i've highlighted is generally townie usually (not always) town claims can be very messy and illogical and things don't make sense. mafia claims are usually much tidier. didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also. not to mention being illogical is a town trait of mine
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On October 08 2015 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote: didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also. yeah it was. although that was never a reason anyone (rsoultin) read Rels mafia for it. And i do know for a fact moosy does illogical shit as scum aswell. so.. meh... accept it rayn! ACCEPT IT! you can not read me unless you employ tone!
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