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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 07 2015 17:04 GMT
#5321
On October 08 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 01:46 Rels wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:09 rsoultin wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:05 Rels wrote:
bah we'll see. I have a long way to go before playing town like you do! At the moment I had a lot of fun in every game I played (= except that part where I called rsoultin a stupid moron because I was mad


lol <3

i consider it a compliment, really! for a rational scum rels to respond to my case like that means i had a rock-solid case

i mentioned in the QT to nocturne that your response actually solidified my scumread, since you were trying to figure out the scum between sicklucker and myself and your response to my case on you was

"you stupid moron!" lol

but i doubt i'll be able to explain why the emotions don't fit a town mindset to anyone who doesn't understand it just seeing it my Achilles heel so to speak...or one of them

Yeah that case was really the best case that could made on me. Well fucking played. I played sloppily at times but the only real inconsistent thing was that I townread GB N1 when I claimed roleblocker, and you nailed it. I was so mad because moosy claim made one million less sense than mine,he had so many things illogical that I pointed out, and I was caught by one smaaaaaall thing :p

what you're missing is that what i've highlighted is generally townie

usually (not always) town claims can be very messy and illogical and things don't make sense.
mafia claims are usually much tidier.

didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also.

Yeah that's true. That's why rsoultin pushed me. Didn't change the fact I was mad
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 17:05 GMT
#5322
On October 08 2015 02:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also.

yeah it was. although that was never a reason anyone (rsoultin) read Rels mafia for it. And i do know for a fact moosy does illogical shit as scum aswell. so.. meh...

accept it rayn! ACCEPT IT! you can not read me unless you employ tone!

i don' t emply tone in any of my reads because that's just shit.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 17:06 GMT
#5323
On October 08 2015 02:04 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:46 Rels wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:09 rsoultin wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:05 Rels wrote:
bah we'll see. I have a long way to go before playing town like you do! At the moment I had a lot of fun in every game I played (= except that part where I called rsoultin a stupid moron because I was mad


lol <3

i consider it a compliment, really! for a rational scum rels to respond to my case like that means i had a rock-solid case

i mentioned in the QT to nocturne that your response actually solidified my scumread, since you were trying to figure out the scum between sicklucker and myself and your response to my case on you was

"you stupid moron!" lol

but i doubt i'll be able to explain why the emotions don't fit a town mindset to anyone who doesn't understand it just seeing it my Achilles heel so to speak...or one of them

Yeah that case was really the best case that could made on me. Well fucking played. I played sloppily at times but the only real inconsistent thing was that I townread GB N1 when I claimed roleblocker, and you nailed it. I was so mad because moosy claim made one million less sense than mine,he had so many things illogical that I pointed out, and I was caught by one smaaaaaall thing :p

what you're missing is that what i've highlighted is generally townie

usually (not always) town claims can be very messy and illogical and things don't make sense.
mafia claims are usually much tidier.

didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also.

Yeah that's true. That's why rsoultin pushed me. Didn't change the fact I was mad

meh maybe i was just bad at reading all of it then.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 17:07 GMT
#5324
because imo rsoultin pointed out illogicalities of your claim.....
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 07 2015 17:09 GMT
#5325
On October 08 2015 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
because imo rsoultin pointed out illogicalities of your claim.....

Yeah she did ? Unless you're talking to moosy
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 17:17 GMT
#5326
nvm, i gotta yolo i am travelling in ~10min apparently <3
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 07 2015 17:19 GMT
#5327
GG
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 07 2015 17:20 GMT
#5328
On October 08 2015 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not quitting because i am a pussy.
I ma quitting because i don't enjoy playing with people who don't play.

I am playing fairly well as either alignment when people play (like XXX), and while i heavily disagree with the outcome of that game because it was for shit reasons, i agree with it. Like i should prolly killed other people or played better, or me and JAT should both played better on D1. But that game was actually a GAME, other games have felt like shit (in a sense that it's just -- boring) lately. deconduo game was good imo, except i didn't really get to play it because of the shit moosy pulled off. but it was a good game, for sure.

It is a miracle that it even was this close in the end. Eden was so unbelievably towny and he still got mislynched. The town lineup was next to impossible to defeat since it consisted almost entirely of player who are very easily townread. The only exception was prplhz and since town didn't know how mafia favored the setup really was he was considered confirmed town after the check. Koshis cop play was perfect.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 07 2015 17:22 GMT
#5329
On October 08 2015 02:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also.

yeah it was. although that was never a reason anyone (rsoultin) read Rels mafia for it. And i do know for a fact moosy does illogical shit as scum aswell. so.. meh...

accept it rayn! ACCEPT IT! you can not read me unless you employ tone!

That is really nothing to be proud of dude.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 07 2015 17:22 GMT
#5330
i pointed out many things

i appealed to tone
i appealed to discrepancies
i appealed to logic

lol ><

i did straight up setup analysis that pretty much proved that moosy's claim of a full roleblocker was more credible for pure balance reasons than rels' 1-shot claim

but ^^ i did not say the magic words (whatever those might have been) that would have shown you what i saw, rayn i was hoping that the logic of my case would do it

tbf though, rels, i actually was trying to see if maybe i was wrong and your responses were more reasonable than MD's, assuming one of you was the real roleblocker. it wasn't specifically reasons to call you out over him despite being fairly sure that MD's claim was the more credible for tone and setup reasons
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 07 2015 17:24 GMT
#5331
On October 08 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote:
i pointed out many things

i appealed to tone
i appealed to discrepancies
i appealed to logic

lol ><

i did straight up setup analysis that pretty much proved that moosy's claim of a full roleblocker was more credible for pure balance reasons than rels' 1-shot claim

but ^^ i did not say the magic words (whatever those might have been) that would have shown you what i saw, rayn i was hoping that the logic of my case would do it

tbf though, rels, i actually was trying to see if maybe i was wrong and your responses were more reasonable than MD's, assuming one of you was the real roleblocker. it wasn't specifically reasons to call you out over him despite being fairly sure that MD's claim was the more credible for tone and setup reasons

I actually thought about claiming 2 shot after a while, it could have been logical
In my "fuck you" post I even alluded to it (I said I had a very good reason to not claim at the start of the day)
Maybe I should have tried it p:
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 07 2015 17:27 GMT
#5332
On October 08 2015 02:24 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote:
i pointed out many things

i appealed to tone
i appealed to discrepancies
i appealed to logic

lol ><

i did straight up setup analysis that pretty much proved that moosy's claim of a full roleblocker was more credible for pure balance reasons than rels' 1-shot claim

but ^^ i did not say the magic words (whatever those might have been) that would have shown you what i saw, rayn i was hoping that the logic of my case would do it

tbf though, rels, i actually was trying to see if maybe i was wrong and your responses were more reasonable than MD's, assuming one of you was the real roleblocker. it wasn't specifically reasons to call you out over him despite being fairly sure that MD's claim was the more credible for tone and setup reasons

I actually thought about claiming 2 shot after a while, it could have been logical
In my "fuck you" post I even alluded to it (I said I had a very good reason to not claim at the start of the day)
Maybe I should have tried it p:


honestly? since i was the only one you had to convince and your behavior with gb's claim didn't make sense to me, it probably wouldn't have helped beyond making my case look weaker to people already inclined to ignore it lol ><

at any rate, i kinda did the same thing with truffle's case though i did try to see what he was saying i just couldn't. so no real reason to complain
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 07 2015 17:28 GMT
#5333
On October 08 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote:
i pointed out many things

i appealed to tone
i appealed to discrepancies
i appealed to logic

lol ><

i did straight up setup analysis that pretty much proved that moosy's claim of a full roleblocker was more credible for pure balance reasons than rels' 1-shot claim

but ^^ i did not say the magic words (whatever those might have been) that would have shown you what i saw, rayn i was hoping that the logic of my case would do it

tbf though, rels, i actually was trying to see if maybe i was wrong and your responses were more reasonable than MD's, assuming one of you was the real roleblocker. it wasn't specifically reasons to call you out over him despite being fairly sure that MD's claim was the more credible for tone and setup reasons


Dear, you've done great. The big problem here is that your gameplay as town is very similar to your scum play which will always make people be suspicious of you.

The setup analysis you've made pointed out for Moosy's claim to be true.

Your play here was not pathetic at all.
I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 07 2015 17:30 GMT
#5334
On October 08 2015 02:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote:
i pointed out many things

i appealed to tone
i appealed to discrepancies
i appealed to logic

lol ><

i did straight up setup analysis that pretty much proved that moosy's claim of a full roleblocker was more credible for pure balance reasons than rels' 1-shot claim

but ^^ i did not say the magic words (whatever those might have been) that would have shown you what i saw, rayn i was hoping that the logic of my case would do it

tbf though, rels, i actually was trying to see if maybe i was wrong and your responses were more reasonable than MD's, assuming one of you was the real roleblocker. it wasn't specifically reasons to call you out over him despite being fairly sure that MD's claim was the more credible for tone and setup reasons


Dear, you've done great. The big problem here is that your gameplay as town is very similar to your scum play which will always make people be suspicious of you.

The setup analysis you've made pointed out for Moosy's claim to be true.

Your play here was not pathetic at all.


lol

the big problem is i can replicate my town play as scum better than most, and it makes me harder to trust as well as doesn't leave me much room for having an off town-game like i did at the start

i think that in a vacuum without prior knowledge of my scum games, most people would townread me for my play in this game?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 07 2015 17:32 GMT
#5335
On October 07 2015 21:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ALSO SUCK IT BLAZINGHAND MY RNG ACTUALLY HITS MAFIA!


I accept your thanks, fealty, and worship. I am the Blazinghand thy God of RNG, thou shalt have now other Gods before me.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 07 2015 17:33 GMT
#5336
thank you though gb <3

you solved the game for me, no joke lol >< i was kinda missing your fire from this game and it was a big reason why i kept swinging back and forth on your alignment. you brought the gb fire lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 07 2015 17:36 GMT
#5337
On October 08 2015 02:30 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 02:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 08 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote:
i pointed out many things

i appealed to tone
i appealed to discrepancies
i appealed to logic

lol ><

i did straight up setup analysis that pretty much proved that moosy's claim of a full roleblocker was more credible for pure balance reasons than rels' 1-shot claim

but ^^ i did not say the magic words (whatever those might have been) that would have shown you what i saw, rayn i was hoping that the logic of my case would do it

tbf though, rels, i actually was trying to see if maybe i was wrong and your responses were more reasonable than MD's, assuming one of you was the real roleblocker. it wasn't specifically reasons to call you out over him despite being fairly sure that MD's claim was the more credible for tone and setup reasons


Dear, you've done great. The big problem here is that your gameplay as town is very similar to your scum play which will always make people be suspicious of you.

The setup analysis you've made pointed out for Moosy's claim to be true.

Your play here was not pathetic at all.


lol

the big problem is i can replicate my town play as scum better than most, and it makes me harder to trust as well as doesn't leave me much room for having an off town-game like i did at the start

i think that in a vacuum without prior knowledge of my scum games, most people would townread me for my play in this game?


Answer: yes.

And that's why I only care about your alignment when we reach late game. I prefer to cooperate with you.

It is just that... This game has got like 100 pages on day one... I don't feel like reading everything.

I like to play with you because you can see people's posts through every POV and I think this is a trait very overlooked by players
I'm adorable.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 07 2015 17:38 GMT
#5338
On October 08 2015 02:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 21:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ALSO SUCK IT BLAZINGHAND MY RNG ACTUALLY HITS MAFIA!


I accept your thanks, fealty, and worship. I am the Blazinghand thy God of RNG, thou shalt have now other Gods before me.

Fine, I shall have other gods before you now.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 07 2015 17:38 GMT
#5339
On October 08 2015 01:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 21:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 07 2015 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 07 2015 21:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I would appeal to emotion but for some reason, people don't believe it.

Then it makes you better (in that regards) than the people who are believed.
It really does.

Eh, usually when people go for that they were pushed too far. The line between playing to win as hard as possible and signing up just to have fun is one that's different for everyone. At some point, people break and they'll do so in a different way depending on their alignment. I don't think you can put the blame merely at those who crack. You may play to win, but the goal (in terms of why people sign up) is to have fun.


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I totally get this and btw I am not condoning pushing people too far, but I actually play to win. Most people, when mafia, do not. For me this means stuff like being willing to lie about IRL stuff, emotions, about moving house, about depression, about feeling alone in the world and giving up on mafia, or even about eating dinner. Most people have lines they're not willing to cross as mafia even though they're willing to cross those lines as town which is understandable but also unfortunate.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 07 2015 17:39 GMT
#5340
On October 08 2015 02:33 rsoultin wrote:
thank you though gb <3

you solved the game for me, no joke lol >< i was kinda missing your fire from this game and it was a big reason why i kept swinging back and forth on your alignment. you brought the gb fire lol ><


<3

Well, I am traveling and wasn't following the thread very closely after all. But I've made so many plays that couldn't have Mafia motivation behind it that I couldn't believe I was a wagon in LYLO
I'm adorable.
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