dunno what that means but this is the post i'm sort of townreading damdred for
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
dunno what that means but this is the post i'm sort of townreading damdred for | ||
Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:03 prplhz wrote: people did push decon? also if hopeless is town then scum could just be waiting for us to lynch him and then hope to take decon tomorrow? No one voted him but VE though. People have been soft accusing him all game without voting him is what I'm saying, which is usually a prime recipe for someone to be scum. | ||
VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
He'd understand though since you said it was okay though Artanis. ^^ | ||
Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Well rsoultin did. That's why she's an evil temptress. She's tempting me off my rayn sheep. He'd understand though since you said it was okay though Artanis. ^^ Yeah, but she didn't do it until just now and she's probably town so eh. | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: No one voted him but VE though. People have been soft accusing him all game without voting him is what I'm saying, which is usually a prime recipe for someone to be scum. couldn't he just be a townie instead and the reason scum aren't pushing him (yet!) is because they have no reason to? | ||
Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:08 prplhz wrote: couldn't he just be a townie instead and the reason scum aren't pushing him (yet!) is because they have no reason to? I don't think so unless all the realistic lynch candidates have been scum. Deconduo was an easy push target in a time when no one was really getting pushed. It's possible mafia are just a very weak team and don't have any thread presence but in that case we'll probably win anyway. | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
i'm generally righterer ^^ artie, i think you were the one saying that you thought decon was town, though? not that i mind people sheeping me <3 | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't think so unless all the realistic lynch candidates have been scum. Deconduo was an easy push target in a time when no one was really getting pushed. It's possible mafia are just a very weak team and don't have any thread presence but in that case we'll probably win anyway. like you say "decon is scum because scum aren't pushing him" but you can't explain why scum would push him which is why i don't buy it. i don't think decon is super townie, he's mostly just playing like people from way back usually play. | ||
Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:09 rsoultin wrote: i'm generally righterer ^^ artie, i think you were the one saying that you thought decon was town, though? not that i mind people sheeping me <3 I did as you can see in the table, but it was for a weak reason and I feel the more global view such as ver has described in one of his analysis posts is fairly incriminating on him, as well as going through his filter again due to rereading for the schematic I drew I felt he was pretty scummy in general. | ||
VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:08 prplhz wrote: couldn't he just be a townie instead and the reason scum aren't pushing him (yet!) is because they have no reason to? He could be, do you find this to be a more likely scenario? What's your opinion? I believe Artanis made his opinion known with the vote! | ||
Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:11 prplhz wrote: like you say "decon is scum because scum aren't pushing him" but you can't explain why scum would push him which is why i don't buy it. i don't think decon is super townie, he's mostly just playing like people from way back usually play. Scum would like to not get lynched. If Deconduo is town, there was no one (but me) townreading him, making him an easy push. No one but VE tries to lynch Deconduo until very recently. The fact that someone tried, a lot of people are scumreading him and it got no traction is pretty incriminating. | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote: He could be, do you find this to be a more likely scenario? What's your opinion? I believe Artanis made his opinion known with the vote! i'm sort of skeptical, hoping to make this clear with my posting. | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I did as you can see in the table, but it was for a weak reason and I feel the more global view such as ver has described in one of his analysis posts is fairly incriminating on him, as well as going through his filter again due to rereading for the schematic I drew I felt he was pretty scummy in general. hm, okay, i can see that. the reason was definitely weak | ||
Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
6 people are scumreading Deconduo. No one is (strongly) reading him town. VE votes for Deconduo. Nothing happens. I think this makes him likely to be mafia. | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Scum would like to not get lynched. If Deconduo is town, there was no one (but me) townreading him, making him an easy push. No one but VE tries to lynch Deconduo until very recently. The fact that someone tried, a lot of people are scumreading him and it got no traction is pretty incriminating. yes scum would like not to get lynched but are they getting lynched? are you saying that scum are getting lynched right now and because they're not trying to save themselves by switching the lynch to decon then decon is scum? | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
why would scum even switch to decon? they'd just let us kill hopeless today and then massive lynchbait decon tomorrow and then suddenly it's d3 and we've nothing to show for it? what am i missing? | ||
Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:15 prplhz wrote: yes scum would like not to get lynched but are they getting lynched? are you saying that scum are getting lynched right now and because they're not trying to save themselves by switching the lynch to decon then decon is scum? I guess I have to repeat the argument I've already made. Presuming Deconduo is town: Unless there were no mafia in danger of getting lynched OR mafia has no thread presence, Deconduo was the best possible mislynch for scum as no one would've strongly fought it. I don't think the first case is likely, and I think we are very likely to win anyway if the second scenario is accurate. | ||
Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:17 prplhz wrote: like if decon is massive lynchbait and hopeless is town: why would scum even switch to decon? they'd just let us kill hopeless today and then massive lynchbait decon tomorrow and then suddenly it's d3 and we've nothing to show for it? what am i missing? Hopeless didn't become a leading wagon until recently. I'm talking about the time leading up to that. | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
maybe we should lynch him based on stuff he did rather than based on general thread sentiment? did he do anything scummy? he didn't do much and this setup focus and afkness just seems like how people who used to play a long time ago but had a long break and now they just came back for their first game in a while usually play like. yea that's probably weird coming from someone who sheeps people all the time. might even sheep you. | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On August 13 2015 07:27 prplhz wrote: it's just as weird that no scum called him town for towncredit. hmm. maybe we should lynch him based on stuff he did rather than based on general thread sentiment? did he do anything scummy? he didn't do much and this setup focus and afkness just seems like how people who used to play a long time ago but had a long break and now they just came back for their first game in a while usually play like. yea that's probably weird coming from someone who sheeps people all the time. might even sheep you. eh, i could see this, but i think even people who haven't played in a long time will have some sort of opinion about something rather than just pinging a player for suboptimal play? besides which, if he's smart enough to make one connection i fail to see why he didn't make the other | ||
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