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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
i'd contest that some of rayn's early pushes and the more collaborative nature of them could be considered a "good start", disregarding the "claim", and don't really think that scott looks that bad this game though, dude also, much as i can't say that i've appreciated all of snickers' posting, i do think he's town and i'm not going to lynch a townread just because he's aggravating i really like your point on gb though, bf, because it reminded me that gb was ready to read clarity as town for "reaction testing" or whatever, and being the king of such "reaction tests" himself, i find it quite odd that he didn't interpret rayn's initial post similarly like i would assume most players did considering i'm town and at least leaning town on the others, snickers, i think you're way off-base xP | ||
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
cause fuck it im coming out with now i think boxer is easily the most scummy player here and his "huge" post just made it worst. All that shit looks like fluff and i will make a case post explaining everything. and now for onegu. I see no way in hell that he is town. I am assuming he is softing veteran? but he is not acting like veteran? aka he is scum. if my assumption is wrong then his play has just been scummy. so again i will go into great detail but when boxer flips scum i would really look into rso and onegu. just look at the interaction the last few pages between these three. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On July 26 2015 10:34 rsoultin wrote: lol bf's out of my to lynch list i'd contest that some of rayn's early pushes and the more collaborative nature of them could be considered a "good start", disregarding the "claim", and don't really think that scott looks that bad this game though, dude also, much as i can't say that i've appreciated all of snickers' posting, i do think he's town and i'm not going to lynch a townread just because he's aggravating i really like your point on gb though, bf, because it reminded me that gb was ready to read clarity as town for "reaction testing" or whatever, and being the king of such "reaction tests" himself, i find it quite odd that he didn't interpret rayn's initial post similarly like i would assume most players did considering i'm town and at least leaning town on the others, snickers, i think you're way off-base xP Wow. You like his point of not getting your sarcasm but getting Rayn's joke? lol And there is a huge difference between what clarity did and what Rayn did and I already talked about Rayn. I said (and I said it even to you) that Rayn could have been trying to develop disxussion but if that was so it doesn't make sense that he was planning to stay in the shadows like he said. The fact that you are agreeing with such weak rrasining after I explained it to you is raising a big, big red flag. Talk to me about my points on KSC please. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On July 26 2015 07:25 Palmar wrote: He gets special treatment because I just cba arguing him to be scum unless I'm sure. It's such a pain in the ass to try to do it. Try lynching him while he's sleeping. (I'm catching up and I'll post stuff in a bit.) | ||
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
On July 25 2015 07:42 boxerfred wrote: Well I'm going to bed, won't have much time to play tomorrow, will be there in the evening hours and catch up. So see ya then. Rsoul how is Kelsier's thing "too obvious" but this is not too obvious but a scumslip? so he feels the need to share this information with us. but then I call him scum. and wow he pops into the thread a few hours later. and he never mentions something like.... "oh wow i got sick today and couldnt go to work" so he feels the need to share why he is gone but not why he all of a sudden shows up. On July 26 2015 10:04 boxerfred wrote: I'm off again, it's 3 AM here and I'm kinda drunk. informs us again he is gone and assures us he is drunk probably he is trying to coast into the night be like "oh fuck i had such a bad hangover" extremely scummy for ur first serious post to have a fucking vote in it? why does he only have one serious post. well read his (5?) one liners and he also said he wants to focus on big posts in the pre game. Now here comes his big post at a fun time. On July 26 2015 10:00 boxerfred wrote: I agree with this post, although I don't like the last part, it's just too weak and I cannot reproduce it. GlowingBear gave me a hard time with this: Like, one the one hand, he doesn't get the sarcasm in rsoultin's post. On the other hand, he identifies Rayn's cop claim as a joke. Why is that? The sarcasm was way easier to identify as sarcasm than the claim as a joke. Why is he so sure the claim is a joke? When I saw the claim, I was thinking "nahh, probably not cop, this op thingy is totally try-hard dumbtelling". However, seeing it as a dumbtell or as a lie - neither of that is an actual joke. Also, if that was a joke, that wouldn't just have been "a bit off", but instead a really really bad! _____________ Snickers - I don't understand him, don't understand the shitfight he kinda got into with rsoul (rsoul blocked it rather quickly, thankfully so). Would be fine with a lynch, he's causing too much trouble without actually contributing. I don't like that style at all, especially in a post restricted game - the goal for post restriction is to increase post quality and lots of his posts are just useless. _____________ Fun fact: he started off with a frustrated "I'm VT again fuck me" post. When he was scum in Gaiden, he was not whining at all. I can see town KSC do this. This, plus a tone thing which I cannot really get a grip upon as of now, make me think KSC is town. ________________ This feels genuine and legit. Not lynching Onegu. ________________ As for scott: This doesn't make sense. Onegu's claim is way stronger than Rayn's claim. Then he states one of the reasons why Onegu's claim is strong - no CC, doesn't townread him though? Then gives a town lean to rayn who "started good" - since when is a cop claim D1 good? Earlier, there was this: Okay, so what's the "Kelsier" thing? Because at first, you back off of the "are you really VT?" pressure you put on KSC, then you put out the other bolded part which does exactly what? It's hard to read, hard to understand, and does not have any real use. In the end, KSC appears in your list as a null read. I don't know why at all. Concluding, I'm gonna put my vote on scott. As for hope, I don't like his postsbecause as of now, he asks lots of questions but doesn't follow up. That might change during the next hours when he re-enters the thread. if he keeps lurking, I'm fine with a close-to-policy lynch. For now: ##Vote scott31337 there is so much shit wrong with this. Again first serious post = vote. Also just fucking looking at it before reading it made me fucking cringe cause i can post at least one other post that is so identical to this from another mafia. (the guy was also german and he had excuse galores too) his first two points in the post is literally him commenting on the game. which is extremetly scummy. he is pratically asking us questions on what we think about this rather than him assertng anything. and holy shit he is just quoting people instead of picking up on something new. now onto the part about me. makes me looks worse and rsoul look better. its filled with a bunch of bs. snickers is wasting posts.... he doesnt even show an example and he does the dumbtell of snickers is wasting posts. well good job being less efficient with ur one post than i have with my w/e the fuck. I really think ur going to run out of votes at this fucking rate boxer. he thinks ksc is town welcome to mafia down under 3 he is protecting onegu here but if u actually thought about onegu's original post and how he dodged my follow up questions it makes onegu look super fucking scummy if you want i will explain why onegu looks scummy if you dont see it. says onegu claim is stronger than rains but back it up with no fucking facts. mind you hes still on stuff from what the first page of the game? next part. rains claim was a fucking joke stop fucking talking about it. and this is a semi open game who the fuck cares onegu claimed named town. why did he claim it? to make himself look town which he isnt. oh and he wants to lynch hopeless who is the easy lynch but probably wouldnt reveal shit. maybes hope is scum but there are many others comparable to his posts. and he talks about no follow up = scummy except he doesnt know what a follow up is. lynch him plz. and realize onegu claim is fake as shit | ||
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
and again these last few page interaction between onegu rsoul and boxer..................................... also so many people posted who the fuck they are willing to vote....................... i wonder how many had scott on them. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
Which means I think boxer is most likely town | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On July 26 2015 11:21 Snickers wrote: **Huge Snipping occurs** he is protecting onegu here but if u actually thought about onegu's original post and how he dodged my follow up questions it makes onegu look super fucking scummy if you want i will explain why onegu looks scummy if you dont see it. says onegu claim is stronger than rains but back it up with no fucking facts. mind you hes still on stuff from what the first page of the game? next part. rains claim was a fucking joke stop fucking talking about it. and this is a semi open game who the fuck cares onegu claimed named town. why did he claim it? to make himself look town which he isnt. lynch him plz. and realize onegu claim is fake as shit Break it down for us. | ||
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
thankfully its prty fucking obvious he has a. claimed named town b. said rso seems pissed which is scummy... i said this four pages before this. aka busing here and sheeping me. the claim is obectively scummy because of his follow up On July 26 2015 06:42 Onegu wrote: Because I am the uncounterclaimed named town, who claimed in my first post. No way in hell does scum onegu do that as it is suicide if I am CC. And I enjoy playing scum and dont want to get lynched day 1 or 2... okay defend urself when im trying to question someone. Yea cced in a semi open game. yea okay. what is it like 1/20? ur cced? but able to gain a ton of town cred because for some reason people have believed him. its a good scum play because 19/20 it helps. | ||
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On July 26 2015 11:50 Snickers wrote: hopeless do one thing that is townie day one? okay? Yeah thats not how it works with me. Im like the scummiest player ever | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
a. claimed named town (No CC) Null/ Townlean imo. Certainly not instant scumread like you wish to imply. b. Bussing + Sheeping How the everloving fuck could you know this unless you were scum with him? Are you admitting you are scum? I get your point about the whole CC being not indicative, but your estimates of 1/20 or 19/20 chances are ludicrous. I cant read rayn, and if I get into a pissing contest I will lose. Please have mercy, rayn. Re: Scott Notice how I have 3 whole voters and one of them is scott Also note the timestamps On July 26 2015 01:24 Half the Sky wrote: Day 1 Vote Count ---> Hopeless1der (3): raynpelikoneet, Clarity_nl, scott31337 rsoultin (2): Onegu, Snickers raynpelikoneet (1): Palmar KelsierSC (0): Not voted (7): KelsierSC, FirmTofu, boxerfred, ObiWanShinobi, rsoultin, GlowingBear, Hopeless1der As the wind blows, Hopeless1der is staring death in the face. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. The live voting tracker is located here. Please FORMAT YOUR VOTES CORRECTLY in the voting thread or the script will not pick your vote up! Okay, now read this shitty list post from scott, look at who's voting me and what his thoughts are on those players: On July 26 2015 07:13 scott31337 wrote: Scotty's shitty spreadsheet at the moment - 1 KelsierSC null - questioned me on the VT claim, but it felt weird how he did it. 2 FirmTofu null/scumlean - little posting, nothing sticks out. 3 Onegu named town no CC, going after rsolutin for being angry too early, but she doesn't seem that angry (scummy angry) YET. 4 Snickers others like him but I don't see why? (notably Clarity, rsoul) Calls me mafia - suspicious 5 raynpelikoneet Started off good but has faided, slight town lean 6 Clarity_nl null / slight scum? Wants to lynch me 7 boxerfred Nothing special, six posts of meh - scumlean 8 ObiWanShinobi Didn't see scum motivation from his post to me - little posting - null 9 rsoultin Slight townlean, not too angry - keep an eye to see if she does the magic trick if not just lynch D4. 10 GlowingBear second part d1 looking better, not too angry either - asking townie questions - townlean 11 Palmar townlean for a Palmar d1 day. 12 scott31337 town 13 Hopeless1der scumlean, first post was bad - but suspicious/scummy voters on him so need to watch for that. Would lynch. ##Vote scott31337 As an aside, it annoys me when people bring up my first post and say its "forced" or "bad" with no further commentary on WHY its forced or bad. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
Elaborate for me? | ||
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Onegu
United States9695 Posts
Your odds are way off there are normally 2-3 blues in a 13 player setup. There are 7 possible blue roles. So the odds are 2/7 or 3/7 you get CC if you make this claim as scum. There are 3 scum out of 13. So yes the slight majority of the time you dont get CC and you are ok. But the other 40ish percent of the time you are CC and at best you trade 1 for 1 against a blue that has no powers. But knowing me I am lynched first and then you lost one scum and confirmed a town. Not worth the risk. Also you think I am bussing Rsoul when if we were scum together... Wait nevermind I would totally bus the shit out of her if we ever rolled scum together. But we didnt. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On July 26 2015 12:51 Onegu wrote: Like what is my motivation as scum to make this claim this early? Your odds are way off there are normally 2-3 blues in a 13 player setup. There are 7 possible blue roles. So the odds are 2/7 or 3/7 you get CC if you make this claim as scum. There are 3 scum out of 13. So yes the slight majority of the time you dont get CC and you are ok. But the other 40ish percent of the time you are CC and at best you trade 1 for 1 against a blue that has no powers. But knowing me I am lynched first and then you lost one scum and confirmed a town. Not worth the risk. Also you think I am bussing Rsoul when if we were scum together... Wait nevermind I would totally bus the shit out of her if we ever rolled scum together. But we didnt. It's not like this reasoning stopped you from shooting scib. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
'cause the entirety of the post seemed like it was coming from a towny mindset to me; he's noting down discrepancies and trying to look into how people are approaching their reads, i don't have an insanely high expectation for bf after just seeing his town game but he's met the threshold for not being my d1 lynch oneg most likely town. it is pretty standard to claim named vt from the get-go, oneg may even be fake-claiming it as town cause he loves to pull that sort of thing, but i don't see him doing it as scum without knowing if there's someone who could cc him. plus, as i said, that "anger" read thing that he has on me he's stated before as town so i'm pretty sure he believes it not to mention you're being doltish anyway by thinking that because you mention that i'm pissed, it's the same as him saying specifically that i tend to be more angry as scum than town are you townreading clarity? if you are, why? @gb yeah, no. you're focusing on something pretty damn irrelevant. there is nothing that says someone can't try to make a play to start discussion and still want to hang back a bit to see what fruit it bears. your "contradiction" isn't even a real contradiction, and there's really no huge deal about him opening with that post to begin with; you've opened with far less useful shit in the past. i don't think it makes you scum, per se, but i think bf noticing it makes it more likely that he is town | ||
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