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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 03:54 GMT
#401
I would advocate taking a serious look at Onegu if he continues down this path of "I claimed so I'm confirmed town."
Retired.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
July 26 2015 03:55 GMT
#402
On July 26 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hope, I don't understand the point of your scott case?
Elaborate for me?

Can I just say "waffle" and leave it at that?

@GB re kelsier

I see a number of somewhat explained town reads in his filter but little to no scum reads and vague "I'd lynch this guy...maybe" vibes. Not feeling great about kelsier but I would really want to lynch him today.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
July 26 2015 03:56 GMT
#403
Ebwop *wouldn't really want to lynch him today.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 26 2015 03:58 GMT
#404
On July 26 2015 03:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 02:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:
It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with.
After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both.

bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me.

scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly

On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote:
Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far.


considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum?


This post is SO bad.
It's an overreaction AND a deflection. Reeks scum


Palmar, address to this.
This + him constantly being annoyed that people are wasting his posts + wanting to lynch me because he doesn't like me, then saying it's because I'm stupid, then admitting that being stupid doesn't make me Mafia but still willing to lynch me is very scummy to me.


meh, maybe, but you think it's more likely for annoyed scum to say he wants to lynch you even though stupid doesn't make you scum? or annoyed town?

cause yeah, i perfectly understand his sentiment. i feel the same way about snickers. i won't lynch him, but i'd be happy to have him out of the game xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 26 2015 03:59 GMT
#405
On July 26 2015 12:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I would advocate taking a serious look at Onegu if he continues down this path of "I claimed so I'm confirmed town."


he's done it too much as town for that to mean anything? like, i have a way to read him but it requires a little more time than this lol >< and it's still in it's early stages but it bore fruit last game
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 26 2015 04:04 GMT
#406
On July 26 2015 12:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 12:51 Onegu wrote:
Like what is my motivation as scum to make this claim this early?

Your odds are way off there are normally 2-3 blues in a 13 player setup. There are 7 possible blue roles. So the odds are 2/7 or 3/7 you get CC if you make this claim as scum. There are 3 scum out of 13. So yes the slight majority of the time you dont get CC and you are ok. But the other 40ish percent of the time you are CC and at best you trade 1 for 1 against a blue that has no powers. But knowing me I am lynched first and then you lost one scum and confirmed a town. Not worth the risk.

Also you think I am bussing Rsoul when if we were scum together... Wait nevermind I would totally bus the shit out of her if we ever rolled scum together. But we didnt.


It's not like this reasoning stopped you from shooting scib.



True but a bit different, I could prove I was vigi, didnt claim at game start. I kinda hinted I was blue but didnt claim. Also that play was awesome!!!
Try TL Mafia!!!
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 04:05 GMT
#407
On July 26 2015 12:59 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 12:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I would advocate taking a serious look at Onegu if he continues down this path of "I claimed so I'm confirmed town."


he's done it too much as town for that to mean anything? like, i have a way to read him but it requires a little more time than this lol >< and it's still in it's early stages but it bore fruit last game


It doesn't matter.
He's had enough scumgames where he claims/does terrible things with his roles to know that it doesn't mean anything for him in terms of being confirmed town.

His claim buys him a day, maybe. That's it.
Retired.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 26 2015 04:05 GMT
#408
On July 26 2015 12:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I would advocate taking a serious look at Onegu if he continues down this path of "I claimed so I'm confirmed town."



Onegu confirmed town.
Try TL Mafia!!!
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 04:07 GMT
#409
On July 26 2015 12:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hope, I don't understand the point of your scott case?
Elaborate for me?

Can I just say "waffle" and leave it at that?

@GB re kelsier

I see a number of somewhat explained town reads in his filter but little to no scum reads and vague "I'd lynch this guy...maybe" vibes. Not feeling great about kelsier but I would really want to lynch him today.


Iuno.
Like.
I know what you're saying and I also want to lynch scott.

I was kind of aware of the idea behind what you were saying but I felt like there was something I was missing from your post.
Like in hindsight it was kind of obvious but still.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 04:11 GMT
#410
On July 26 2015 13:05 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 12:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I would advocate taking a serious look at Onegu if he continues down this path of "I claimed so I'm confirmed town."



Onegu confirmed town.


-.-
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 04:19 GMT
#411
On July 26 2015 13:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 12:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
On July 26 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hope, I don't understand the point of your scott case?
Elaborate for me?

Can I just say "waffle" and leave it at that?

@GB re kelsier

I see a number of somewhat explained town reads in his filter but little to no scum reads and vague "I'd lynch this guy...maybe" vibes. Not feeling great about kelsier but I would really want to lynch him today.


Iuno.
Like.
I know what you're saying and I also want to lynch scott.

I was kind of aware of the idea behind what you were saying but I felt like there was something I was missing from your post.
Like in hindsight it was kind of obvious but still.


I guess the point of this jumbled mishmash of garbage is that I think Hope is probably town.
Retired.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 26 2015 04:40 GMT
#412
On July 26 2015 12:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 03:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2015 02:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:
It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with.
After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both.

bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me.

scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly

On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote:
Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far.


considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum?


This post is SO bad.
It's an overreaction AND a deflection. Reeks scum


Palmar, address to this.
This + him constantly being annoyed that people are wasting his posts + wanting to lynch me because he doesn't like me, then saying it's because I'm stupid, then admitting that being stupid doesn't make me Mafia but still willing to lynch me is very scummy to me.


meh, maybe, but you think it's more likely for annoyed scum to say he wants to lynch you even though stupid doesn't make you scum? or annoyed town?

cause yeah, i perfectly understand his sentiment. i feel the same way about snickers. i won't lynch him, but i'd be happy to have him out of the game xP


That puts snickers, or even Scott, on the chopping block. I've done nothing to annoy him other than calling him Mafia for fair reasons. Plus he says he doesn't like me. Then he says it's because I'm stupid. Then admits being stupid isn't a scum tell but he would be okay to lynch me anyway.

It's not that he could not do that as annoyed town, is that there is no reason to be annoyed with me in this game + it sounds more like he was okay with a lynch on me without having any reasons for lynching me. Then, when having the matter pushed, he couldn't find a fair reason to "not like" me. Why doesn't he like me? What I've being doing that is stupid? He fails to show that.

The only townie thing I saw in his filter was what Palmar said about dismissing the possibility of shitting the thread, but he could also be trying to avoid getting more suspicions at him by dismissing a push, even if a bad push.

I see nothing townie in him that takes him out of the lynch list like you did. I have yet to see what exactly makes him townie to your eyes that he is never getting lynched day1. Please tell me
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 26 2015 04:40 GMT
#413
On July 26 2015 12:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hope, I don't understand the point of your scott case?
Elaborate for me?

Can I just say "waffle" and leave it at that?

@GB re kelsier

I see a number of somewhat explained town reads in his filter but little to no scum reads and vague "I'd lynch this guy...maybe" vibes. Not feeling great about kelsier but I would really want to lynch him today.


If he is giving you bad vibes, why not lynching him today?
I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 26 2015 05:15 GMT
#414
On July 26 2015 13:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 12:58 rsoultin wrote:
On July 26 2015 03:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2015 02:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:
It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with.
After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both.

bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me.

scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly

On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote:
Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far.


considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum?


This post is SO bad.
It's an overreaction AND a deflection. Reeks scum


Palmar, address to this.
This + him constantly being annoyed that people are wasting his posts + wanting to lynch me because he doesn't like me, then saying it's because I'm stupid, then admitting that being stupid doesn't make me Mafia but still willing to lynch me is very scummy to me.


meh, maybe, but you think it's more likely for annoyed scum to say he wants to lynch you even though stupid doesn't make you scum? or annoyed town?

cause yeah, i perfectly understand his sentiment. i feel the same way about snickers. i won't lynch him, but i'd be happy to have him out of the game xP


That puts snickers, or even Scott, on the chopping block. I've done nothing to annoy him other than calling him Mafia for fair reasons. Plus he says he doesn't like me. Then he says it's because I'm stupid. Then admits being stupid isn't a scum tell but he would be okay to lynch me anyway.

It's not that he could not do that as annoyed town, is that there is no reason to be annoyed with me in this game + it sounds more like he was okay with a lynch on me without having any reasons for lynching me. Then, when having the matter pushed, he couldn't find a fair reason to "not like" me. Why doesn't he like me? What I've being doing that is stupid? He fails to show that.

The only townie thing I saw in his filter was what Palmar said about dismissing the possibility of shitting the thread, but he could also be trying to avoid getting more suspicions at him by dismissing a push, even if a bad push.

I see nothing townie in him that takes him out of the lynch list like you did. I have yet to see what exactly makes him townie to your eyes that he is never getting lynched day1. Please tell me


yeah, well, i'm okay with lynching people i have no reasons to lynch, too xP it's called a null read

and yes, ksc is perfectly capable of being annoyed with stupidity in general. neither of us has much patience for it, and you aren't exactly known for being logical

look at his filter and his read progression

has he expressed irritation at stupid pushes on him? yes. is that the majority of his filter? no

he's clearly making reads and contributing and i really liked his push on tofu because i felt the same way reading tofu's response to palmar. plus i dunnae i think the aggression and bite in general is more likely to come from a town ksc than a scum one. scum worries about making friends. town just wants to solve the game xP

it's tonal but i'm fairly confident on it or i wouldn't have him in my strong townreads in the first place
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 05:20 GMT
#415
On July 26 2015 13:40 GlowingBear wrote:Then admits being stupid isn't a scum tell but he would be okay to lynch me anyway.


I do this literally all the time.
Retired.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 26 2015 05:28 GMT
#416
oh, btw obi

i kinda ignored your post on oneg cause i'm not really concerned with the lynch beyond this day phase right now...kinda goes without saying that everything needs to be reevaluated as the game progresses

last post of the night...not sure where i'm at but i'm trying not to run away with posting before i run out of posts

i really want everyone to look into clarity though and tell me why they're townreading him if they are
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 26 2015 05:54 GMT
#417
Day 1 Vote Count


Hopeless1der (3): raynpelikoneet, Clarity_nl, scott31337
rsoultin (2): Onegu, Snickers
scott31337 (2): boxerfred, Hopeless1der
KelsierSC (1): Snickers, GlowingBear
raynpelikoneet (1): Palmar
Palmar (1): FirmTofu
Clarity_nl (1): rsoultin

Not voted (2): KelsierSC, ObiWanShinobi

As the wind blows, Hopeless1der is staring death in the face.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 26 2015 06:04 GMT
#418
On July 26 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 13:40 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2015 12:58 rsoultin wrote:
On July 26 2015 03:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2015 02:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:
It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with.
After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both.

bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me.

scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly

On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote:
Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far.


considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum?


This post is SO bad.
It's an overreaction AND a deflection. Reeks scum


Palmar, address to this.
This + him constantly being annoyed that people are wasting his posts + wanting to lynch me because he doesn't like me, then saying it's because I'm stupid, then admitting that being stupid doesn't make me Mafia but still willing to lynch me is very scummy to me.


meh, maybe, but you think it's more likely for annoyed scum to say he wants to lynch you even though stupid doesn't make you scum? or annoyed town?

cause yeah, i perfectly understand his sentiment. i feel the same way about snickers. i won't lynch him, but i'd be happy to have him out of the game xP


That puts snickers, or even Scott, on the chopping block. I've done nothing to annoy him other than calling him Mafia for fair reasons. Plus he says he doesn't like me. Then he says it's because I'm stupid. Then admits being stupid isn't a scum tell but he would be okay to lynch me anyway.

It's not that he could not do that as annoyed town, is that there is no reason to be annoyed with me in this game + it sounds more like he was okay with a lynch on me without having any reasons for lynching me. Then, when having the matter pushed, he couldn't find a fair reason to "not like" me. Why doesn't he like me? What I've being doing that is stupid? He fails to show that.

The only townie thing I saw in his filter was what Palmar said about dismissing the possibility of shitting the thread, but he could also be trying to avoid getting more suspicions at him by dismissing a push, even if a bad push.

I see nothing townie in him that takes him out of the lynch list like you did. I have yet to see what exactly makes him townie to your eyes that he is never getting lynched day1. Please tell me


yeah, well, i'm okay with lynching people i have no reasons to lynch, too xP it's called a null read

and yes, ksc is perfectly capable of being annoyed with stupidity in general. neither of us has much patience for it, and you aren't exactly known for being logical

look at his filter and his read progression

has he expressed irritation at stupid pushes on him? yes. is that the majority of his filter? no

he's clearly making reads and contributing and i really liked his push on tofu because i felt the same way reading tofu's response to palmar. plus i dunnae i think the aggression and bite in general is more likely to come from a town ksc than a scum one. scum worries about making friends. town just wants to solve the game xP

it's tonal but i'm fairly confident on it or i wouldn't have him in my strong townreads in the first place


This is the first time I think your tone read is off.
If the problem is that people think I'm illogical in general, they will always want to lynch me in every game for that. Kelsier only expressed this half assed willingness to lynch me in this game which, ironically, is the one I'm taking the path of not being emotional. Explain this dichotomy, because I can't understand.

Town just wants to solve the game, yes. I don't see him trying.

Wanna make a bet? He is Mafia and I will rant post game forevermore
I'm adorable.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 26 2015 07:06 GMT
#419
Who's feelin a gb lynch says I'm scummy in a post without saying anything else about me?

Says Scott seems genuine to him after I point out a lot of shit?

Anyway back to proving onegu scum
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 26 2015 07:21 GMT
#420
On July 26 2015 12:51 Onegu wrote:
Like what is my motivation as scum to make this claim this early?

Your odds are way off there are normally 2-3 blues in a 13 player setup. There are 7 possible blue roles. So the odds are 2/7 or 3/7 you get CC if you make this claim as scum. There are 3 scum out of 13. So yes the slight majority of the time you dont get CC and you are ok. But the other 40ish percent of the time you are CC and at best you trade 1 for 1 against a blue that has no powers. But knowing me I am lynched first and then you lost one scum and confirmed a town. Not worth the risk.

Also you think I am bussing Rsoul when if we were scum together... Wait nevermind I would totally bus the shit out of her if we ever rolled scum together. But we didnt.


whats the point of claming named town. if you were really named town why wouldnt u hold back ur fucking claim so maybe you could trade 1 to 1.

explain why a named town woudlnt just claim vt.
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